Curse

JayH · Apr 24, 2008, 04:44 PM // 16:44

Hey, i dont know if this build has been posted around before, but iv been tweaking some parts of a A/P build i found, and this seems to work pretty well.

Iv used it in Hero battles, 3 A/P one N/Mo healer with [rigor mortis]. It worked well in there, and it also is fun to play in AB.

Have not yet tried in PvE, but it may work, although ench removal will cripple this build. Iv only used it playing with a healer, dont think it will work anywhere on your own(without monks), magic will crush it.

Knowing these weakness's, im just wondering if you have any comments about the build, ways to improve it maybe.

I can pretty much keep energy up all the time, and the blocks from crit defenses keeps most melee off me, as i have about 80% chance + to critical.

[swift javelin][spear of lightning][vicious attack][way of the assassin][way of the master][critical defenses] [critical eye][shadow refuge]

attributes
6 shadow arts
+1 +3 11 critical strikes
12 spear mastery

armor + 10 while in enchantment
armor + 10 while in stance
health +50
rest mix of +e and +hp runes etc

hand
spear with 20/20
ench 20% longer
15% - 50%hp

offhand
strength shield
health +45hp stance
armor +10 vs fire

Tyla · Apr 24, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Sup runes are bad, Spear would be best as 15^50 Vamp +30hp, 20/20 on switch for spiking with.

Change to staves if you want to precast for the enchantment times.

Shadow Refuge is bad, and the bar lacks Vicious Attack.

N1ghtstalker · Apr 24, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

i use something similar but i don't use shadow refuge and it's an AB variant
but i actually also use [blazing spear] and [barbed spear] for a cover condition

Nightow · Apr 24, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

...looks awfully familiar.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=453579

JayH · Apr 24, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

Shadow Refuge is bad, and the bar lacks Vicious Attack.

Check the 3rd skill

And also, it was placed there for a cover heal, as there isn't many decent sin self heals nowadays.

Ill test out with suggestions posted here, i might take a cover condition skill instead of shadow refuge for Hero Battles, i shall have to see.

@ Nightow

Yeah, i thought i wouldnt be the first to post something like this.

graverobber2 · Apr 24, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/User:The..._to_critic al
way of the master is more than enough
just take another elite

Coloneh · Apr 24, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

way of the assassin is overkill. your missing critical agility. shadow refuge is bad and superior runes are worse. oh, and sundering is bad, and its even worse on weapons with a low damage range like the spear.

Tyla · Apr 24, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

oh, and sundering is bad, and its even worse on weapons with a low damage range like the spear.

I agree on the sundering being bad (Except on spikes), but Spears have a stupid damage range.

An Saighead Is Gear · Apr 24, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

your missing critical agility.

JayH said that he uses this build in pvp and Critical Agility is a pve skill.

Nightow · Apr 24, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

IMO, (for PvE) switch out
[critical defenses] for [Critical Agility]
[Shadow Refuge] for [Way of Perfection]
[Way of the Master] or [Critical Eye] for [Resurrection Signet]

Stormlord Alex · Apr 24, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

The superior rune is doing nothing for you. CritStrikes hits its breakpoint at 13, that extra rune boost is merely wasting 75 health.

Also, get a decent elite - Master and CritEye are already giving you good crit %, take something like [dark apostasy] so you can do something useful with those crits.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 25, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

stormlord can you post your dark aposty spear sin?

Super Igor · Apr 26, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

ehm, Im sorry but why spears?

~Super Igor

~

FlamingMetroid · Apr 26, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Igor

ehm, Im sorry but why spears?

~Super Igor

~

because they have range, and some people like mixing it up every now and again

Nightow · Apr 26, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Range, high DPS when used correctly along with good spike potential.

Stormlord Alex · Apr 26, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

stormlord can you post your dark aposty spear sin?

Sure... Little defense and healing on mine because that's what I gots monks for. [[Assassin's remedy] could be used over the RemSig, I just like teh yellow.
[build prof=A/P name="CritSpear" box spear=12 crit=12+1+1 desc="Weapon 1: Vamp spear{br}Weapon 2: Non-vamp spear"][swift javelin][wild throw][vicious attack][dark apostasy][remedy signet][way of the master][critical eye][resurrection signet][/build]

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 29, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

ok thanks.

i wanted to run it pve a little while ago. dunno why though but it sounded like a fun build

Lishy · Apr 30, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

A very good combo for assassin would be to combine Wearying strike+Assassin's Remedy.Vicious strike also guarantees a near 100% deep wound.

RiceCream · Apr 30, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

i played with a similar build (almost exactly the same) build in RA after the release of EotN, used:

[vicious attack][spear of lightning][disrupting throw][Way of the Assassin][Way of the master][critical defenses][critical eye][resurrection signet]

100%+ crit rate provides big damage, vicious's deep wound = disrupting fodder etc. fun fun

Krill · May 01, 2008, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Another decent choice for an elite with critical spear is Sleeping Wound:

[build=Critical Spear;OwliMylMBk9gFkpAtIOAFvJAAA]

I used to play it some in RA and it does decent damage, just a lot of boring button mashing though. Wound is a -4 hex @ 12+1+1 that's cheap and repeatable.