Curse

Horazon's Wrath · Apr 09, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Can someone give me a good sin build to beat the dopplerganger without much trouble. My secondery is an Ele. Can someone plz help me out. My in game name is assassin pj. Thank u all so much for the help!!!

therangereminem · Apr 09, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

wiki is your frend take a look into it there or read the following

Bring Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Strike, Horns of the Ox, Falling Spider, Critical Strike and Desperate Strike. Activate the skills in order. If you have 30+ energy, you can replace Critical Strike with Twisting Fangs. Using Critical Eye in advance also helps with energy.
- An alternate build to the one above for a A/W is this skill line: Frenzy, Critical Eye, Way of Perfection, Golden Lotus Strike, Fox Fangs,Death Blossom, Flourish(Elite). Run in, don't use frenzy but cast everything in order, once Flourish has been used start again at WoP, he goes down faster than any other way.

Bring Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Strike, Repeating Strike, Twisting Fangs. Before the Cinematic, use Critical Agility then go in. Activate the first two skills and then hit him with repeating strike twice, then use Twisting Fangs and you should kill it.
[Hard Mode] - Bring Shadow Form but do not use it. Wait for the doppelganger to use Shadow Form, then either wait out the duration or use Expunge Enchantments. Your opponent will be reduced to low health as a result. However, this method is based on luck as your opponent won't always cast Shadow Form, even if it's the only skill on his bar.
[Hard Mode] - Bring any dagger combo that starts with Shock and includes Horns of the Ox. Moebius Strike and Critical Agility are helpful but not required. With fast fingers and luck you can interrupt the Doppelganger's Shock with your own, and then kill it.

[edit] Elementalist
Bring Meteor Shower, Fire Storm, Lava Font, Searing Heat, Fire Attunement and three non-DoT Fire Magic skills such as Flare. Use Fire Attunement before triggering the cinematic, then spam the non-ADoT skills. When the Doppelganger finishes casting Meteor Shower, run out of its range then cast Meteor Shower, Fire Storm and Searing Heat, then run up and cast Lava Font and go back to spamming the non-DoT skills.
Another option is to bring Glyph of Essence, Fire Attunement, Meteor Shower, and Searing Flames. Cast Fire Attunement before the cinematic. The Doppelganger will use Glyph of Essence to cast Meteor Shower, or if you're really lucky, Fire Attunement, thus depleting all of its Energy. Move out of the way of Meteor Shower if it's cast and start spamming Searing Flames. With zero energy, there's very little it can do to you and it should go down quickly.
Yet another option is to only bring Flare and cast it as quickly as possible until victory. You may need to have a staff that provides extra health and a few runes to boost your health enough for this to work however.
Yet another option is to simply bring Conjure Flame, Conjure Frost, or Conjure Lightning depending on your weapon and Glyph of Elemental Power. Cast glyph and then the conjure before the cinematic. Just simply attack, his weapon will not be boosted and you deal more damage then using flare would do. He will be brought down in about 30 sec.

For Elementalists who have selected Mesmer as their secondary, bring Empathy and Blinding Flash. Hex the Doppelganger with Empathy and keep it blinded with Blinding Flash. It will kill itself while doing virtually no damage to you.
Yet another way is to bring slow casting, worthless, energy expensive, etc spells, for example Air Atunement when you have no other air spell, some monk spells are very effective for this occasion as well if you are E/Mo. Non-damaging spells in the Curses/Blood Magic skills can be extremely effective- often you can get the Doppelganger to cast half a dozen useless curses like Rend Enchantments, Strip Enchantment, Plague Touch, or Mark of Pain before he even starts attacking. Bring only one damaging spell, like Flare and maybe even Aura of Restoration to keep you healthy. Start attacking with your damaging spell. Before Doppelganger finishes all spells and start attacking you, its almost dead.
[Hard Mode] - Switch to E/Mo and bring Meteor Shower, Fire Storm, Lava Font, Searing Flames, Flare, Glyph of Essence, and Judge's Intervention. Use Fire Attunement before triggering the cinematic, Quickly cast Meteor Shower (note, he may cast different spells, but its the same process), run to him, and cast lava font, cast Judge's Intevention and then Fire Storm on him. Then just spam Searing Flames and Flare, back to back, He should die fairly easy.
[Hard Mode] - Or you can use straight E and run Meteor Shower, Fire Storm, Lava Font, Searing Flames, Flare, Glyph of Sacrifice, Aura of Restoration, and Fire Attunement. You'll get the leg up by pre-casting the two enchantments and the Glyph. As soon as the battle starts, get the shower off using the pre-cast glyph. Rush in and cast the lava font and the fire storm, and then spam flare and searing flames (just as in the previous suggestion). The Doppel may run around to avoid the AoE, but that's fine (good, even) - just keep following with flare/searing flames.
NOTE: Sometimes effective is to equip weak skills and Ursan Blessing, allowing the Doppelganger to use the weak skills, while you use bear skills to defeat it.

Ghostcell · Apr 09, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

ursan blessing, he can't use it.

the kurzick eater · Apr 09, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

lol i love how the 1st reply takes 2 years to read, and ghostcell's takes all of 2 seconds ^^.. but yea ursan.

therangereminem · Apr 09, 2008, 04:39 AM // 04:39

see but most likly hes doing it on a survrior and is leve ll like 5 or 6 and has not been to gwen yet newbs

blurmedia · Apr 09, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Frenzy, healing signet, critical agility + attack combo of your choice.

FlamingMetroid · Apr 09, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

[skill]Shadow Form[/skill][skill]Expunge Enchantments[/skill]
heh heh AI lol

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 10, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

[skill]Shadow Form[/skill][skill]Expunge Enchantments[/skill]
heh heh AI lol

but would he use it

White Lies · Apr 10, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

He'll use it if hes tacking enough damage like the afflicted sins: hit um with unsuspecting strike, wild blow, death blossom and they throw it up

Psyko · Apr 12, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

no one realizes you can go into the fight without any skills and just kill him with daggers?

this guy was created before Factions or NF, his weapon doesnt do as much damage as either a scythe OR daggers. No skills, crit strikes and weapon attribute of your choice max, and you win, no skills required (literally)

My Lipgloss is Cool · Apr 12, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

I think you used to be able to just put your chain backwards, and he'd do it wrong, but they've probably fixed this...

I just ran a Moebus/DB spam with Crit Agility and Brawling Headbutt...He didn't stand a chance...I didn't even bring a selfheal

Carboplatin · Apr 30, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13

A/Ne

[insidious parasite]

only need 1 skill.

gg.

Q 221 · Apr 30, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet, but when I beat him, I just brought the traditional Moebius-Death Blossom chain with Critical Agility, but instead of the usual Golden Phoenix Strike, I brought Sneak Attack and Wild Strike. He can't use Sneak Attack, so that shuts down his chain, and since he's conveniently blinded, autoattack's not going to do much either.

Although now that I think about it, you could probably just bring Golden Phoenix Strike and make Crit Agility your only enchantment. It would accomplish the same thing aside from the blinding.

MasterSasori · Apr 30, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

[skill]shadow form[/skill] and kite.

rebirthofdragon · May 17, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

[Iron Mist] and don't cast it. Doppleganger will, however.

Also, Guild Wiki Guide to defeating doppelganger

Targren · May 19, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Cake walk. Did this last week.

[critical Agility] + [Golden Phoenix Strike] + [Critical Strike] + [Moebius Strike]

Doppy can't use CA, and thus can't start his chain. Dead in 22 seconds.

Ooops, missed that q 221 said the same thing. But it works a treat.

Super Igor · May 19, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

It is simple with Doppy: He cant use PvE only skills, make you build to rely on them. Examples made by q221 and Targren are exactly what I am talking about.