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DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Shadow Walk is way better than Shadow Fang. End.

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 11, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

could also go....

[shove] [falling lotus strike] [twisting fangs] [golden phoenix strike] [blades of steel] [assassins remedy] [dark prison]

would get aftercast on that one however

Bobby2 · Jul 11, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Lolz. I still pack [skill]grapple[/skill] instead of [skill]healing signet[/skill]

miskav · Jul 11, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

could also go....

[shove] [falling lotus strike] [twisting fangs] [golden phoenix strike] [blades of steel] [assassins remedy] [dark prison]

would get aftercast on that one however

Explain how you'd get the aftercast here instead of with shadow walk?
Aren't the aftercasts the same length?

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 11, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by miskav

Explain how you'd get the aftercast here instead of with shadow walk?
Aren't the aftercasts the same length?

shadow walk has no aftercast only a disable on all atk skills for 1 second. And in that one second you use shove thus bypassing the downside of the shadowstep. However with aftercast you cannot use any skills including shove.

Charlotte the Harlot · Jul 12, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

shock still works as well if you don't mind the exhaustion for a quicker recharge and not taking the elite slot.

Bowstring Badass · Jul 12, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlotte the Harlot

shock still works as well if you don't mind the exhaustion for a quicker recharge and not taking the elite slot.

Honestly a sin bar designed around shove and shock aren't that great. Despite the nerf to shadow steps (most commonly used ones) they are still viable just not as instagibby. XD

Nestaron · Jul 12, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

I've been just assing about and ended up using this for some reason... Not great but seemed to work somewhat ok in AB... especially if your target just has that little bit extra to survive. Just have to be extremely careful with exhaustion which is a pretty crappy.

[Shadow Walk][Shock][Falling Spider][Horns of the Ox][Falling Lotus Strike][Twisting Fangs][Moebius Strike]

After moebius back to horns of the ox and on you go again.

itsvictor · Jul 12, 2008, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Where's the old thread for this...?This is mostly an ab build tbh and I still remember the day I kicked bobby out of my ab group cause he refused to take out grapple lols...

Bobby2 · Jul 12, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

Can't blame myself. [shadow walk][grapple] is hilarious.

Mesmer in Need · Jul 12, 2008, 07:08 AM // 07:08

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Shush. If Anet gets wind of this, the whole Tactics line is going to be Ether Renewal'd because of the Shove sin.

Sorry, but tactics has been dead. The WY nerf (as well as sy) and the LC buff make tactics obsolete.

This build looks fun, but spiking only once every 30 secs seems kind of lame.

Tyla · Jul 12, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Bobby, that is too true to quote.

Shadowstepping out landing on your arse. Good stuff.

BlackSephir · Jul 12, 2008, 11:19 AM // 11:19

Surprise buttsecks. Everything you could ever dream of.

DarkNecrid · Jul 12, 2008, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Build is gud for anything not really GvG. Only being able to spike an NPC every 20s sucks.

moriz · Jul 12, 2008, 12:55 PM // 12:55

i used that build in byob. so actually DOES work in gvg.

its effectiveness is similar to an AoD shock assassin tbh; slightly better at surprise buttsecks on players because of the faster attack.

I Will Heal You Ally · Jul 12, 2008, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I find the Shove build slow... waiting 20 sec to recharge is a bit long esp for a sin and his dps... maybe add something to recharge it faster?

Lourens · Jul 12, 2008, 01:41 PM // 13:41

i use shock instead works great with 38 energy

Bobby2 · Jul 12, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

I find the Shove build slow... waiting 20 sec to recharge is a bit long esp for a sin and his dps... maybe add something to recharge it faster?

OK this is not personal... but you're not the only one to place such a comment

[shadow prison] has been 25s recharge for a while now and still sees play. Now alluvasudden 20sec chain recharge is a problem?

/confused

moriz · Jul 13, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

if you still want to get your instagib fix, try this:

[build prof=A/W dag=12+1+1 crit=12+1 tac=3][assassin's remedy][shove][falling lotus strike][twisting fangs][golden phoenix strike][blades of steel][shadow walk][dash][/build]

much better suited for gvg, since this build WILL instagib. used by mistral edge during the guru tourney.

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 13, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

if you still want to get your instagib fix, try this:

[build prof=A/W dag=12+1+1 crit=12+1 tac=3][assassin's remedy][shove][falling lotus strike] [twisting fangs] [golden phoenix strike][blades of steel][shadow walk][dash][/build]

much better suited for gvg, since this build WILL instagib. used by mistral edge during the guru tourney.

dunno why but twisting fangs didn't pop up so for those of you who can't see its the second dual in that chain

btw moriz

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

could also go....

[shove] [falling lotus strike] [twisting fangs] [golden phoenix strike] [blades of steel] [assassins remedy] [dark prison]

would get aftercast on that one however

i beat you