Curse

Bobby2 · May 24, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Monks are leet.

Super Igor · May 24, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

^agreed......

kev read · May 26, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by moriz

i can vanquish any area on an empty skill bar. being able to vanquish is hardly proof that a build is good.

gg.

12chars

Super Igor · May 26, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

If you vanquish with an empty skill bar you are doing something wrong.

MisterT69 · May 26, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

If you vanquish with an empty skill bar you are doing something wrong.

Hmmm, thats pretty impressive. I happen to vanquish as well, but the least i bring is 1 skill, yes the all so powerful [flare]. What did you think I meant, [Ursan Blessing][empty][empty][empty][empty][empty][empty][empty] Hah, dont make me laugh, everyone knows [flare] is all you need for HM.

Super Igor · May 28, 2008, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Lol @ epic thread derailment.

[flare] is aweasome.

Jebus · May 31, 2008, 09:40 AM // 09:40

So which are currently the best PvE sin builds? (after the nerfs/bufs etc.)

Super Igor · May 31, 2008, 02:24 PM // 14:24

nerfa? Same all the time MS/DB and Shattersin are most common.

Damian979 · Jun 02, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

You can't top Moebius blossom for the massive dps. However when I get tired of hitting the same 2-3 skills over and over, I like to use [Critical Agility][Critical Defense][Critical Eye][Way of Perfection][Locust's Fury], and whatever 2 or 3 skill attack combo you prefer.
This mows thru most of your squishier targets. Before they have a chance to do anything they are fleeing and trying to heal. And for the heavy armor types, they will stay on you for a while desperately trying to get off that 25% chance of hitting while your backline demolishes them.

Super Igor · Jun 03, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Locust's Fury is a horribad skill.

Bobby2 · Jun 03, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

NO! Keep that flame magnet out of here!

Damian979 · Jun 03, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

wow.... horribad....nice use of words. Say what you want but something that gives me 2-3 attacks per sec is..umm...wondergood? IMO anyway

Bobby2 · Jun 03, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

It doesn't work on attack skills. Leads and Offhands never double strike, Duals always double strike. Auto attacks hit for what, 17 AL based? GG.

Damian979 · Jun 04, 2008, 01:14 PM // 13:14

True, unless I am using the build I mentioned then LF stays on the shelf. Though you can add a conjure anything from the ele line and your reg attacks now hit 30-40, which makes for 60-90 dps w/ IAS, 75% blocking, and rapid auto heal indefinately.

This isn't a spike build, it's a fun build for taking on heavy melee areas where warr's/derv's/sin's run rampant and holding aggro for your backline and not getting beat down is more important.

Kiluna · Jun 04, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

[Ursan Blessing][empty][empty][empty][empty][empty][empty][empty]

I don't think ursan is THAT great on sin, as we have Critical Agility for (more) armor and IAS.

CA
- Can be removed.
- Got no health bonus.

Ursan
- Less armor bonus.
- Needs high Norn rank to be able to deal high ammount of damage.

Ursan Strike, Low recharge. Not that nice damage ot low Norn rank, but does armor ignoring damage.
Ursan Rage, Nice AoE damage with a knockdown. As far as i know it's not armor ignoring (physical)
Ursan Roar, Weakness and increased damage for your team.

For areas with heavy enchantment removal i would say Ursan is better, but for areas with little or no enchant removal i would say that a DB+MS spammer with CA would do better.

FlamingMetroid · Jun 04, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by Damian979

True, unless I am using the build I mentioned then LF stays on the shelf. Though you can add a conjure anything from the ele line and your reg attacks now hit 30-40, which makes for 60-90 dps w/ IAS, 75% blocking, and rapid auto heal indefinately.

This isn't a spike build, it's a fun build for taking on heavy melee areas where warr's/derv's/sin's run rampant and holding aggro for your backline and not getting beat down is more important.

the [locust's fury] discussion has been had, and it resulted in alot of flaming and MS/DB being better, don't start it again.

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Originally Posted by Kiluna

I don't think ursan is THAT great on sin, as we have Critical Agility for (more) armor and IAS.

CA
- Can be removed.
- Got no health bonus.

Ursan
- Less armor bonus.
- Needs high Norn rank to be able to deal high ammount of damage.

Ursan Strike, Low recharge. Not that nice damage ot low Norn rank, but does armor ignoring damage.
Ursan Rage, Nice AoE damage with a knockdown. As far as i know it's not armor ignoring (physical)
Ursan Roar, Weakness and increased damage for your team.

For areas with heavy enchantment removal i would say Ursan is better, but for areas with little or no enchant removal i would say that a DB+MS spammer with CA would do better.

or you could not be a fag, and never use Ursan

Damian979 · Jun 04, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian979

You can't top Moebius blossom for the massive dps. However when I get tired of hitting the same 2-3 skills over and over,

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

The discussion has been had, and it resulted in alot of flaming and MS/DB being better,

I believe I said that

-Lotus- · Jun 04, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian979

I believe I said that

you said that the damage was greater, but you still tried to push locust's as a decent alternative, which is clearly isnt. the skill is crap and there are a few threads dedicated to proving it. either shut up or go to one of those threads and stop derailing this one.

Damian979 · Jun 04, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by -Lotus-

you said that the damage was greater, but you still tried to push locust's as a decent alternative, which is clearly isnt. the skill is crap and there are a few threads dedicated to proving it. either shut up or go to one of those threads and stop derailing this one.

The thread was about PvE builds, not your favorite skill. No LF is not the one skill that dominates the world. I merely was posting something as a BUILD that does make the skill viable. [Wastrel's Collapse] however is an example of a crap skill that has no place anywhere ever.

It's called anger management

Breath in......

Breath out.....

Jebus · Jun 04, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I ran the DB/MS build today on my sin, and I was bored very fast. I usually never got to use MS, as my opponent was already dead, rarely I was able to use DB. Making a chain in PvE thus seems pretty useless to me. Any comments?