Curse

kazi_saki · Aug 27, 2008, 10:26 AM // 10:26

I wanna try something like this
[aod][flurry][golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][impale][scorpion wire][res sig]

What do you think? will it work? AoD is a great skill and its fun to play around with

fireflyry · Aug 27, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Nope.

BoS over DB and Impale is pretty redundant these days.

Go check the forums for some good spike builds and change to your desire really.

kazi_saki · Aug 27, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02

but will the AoD/scorpion wire thing work? Kinda like AoD to the guy, cast scorpion wire, if you're getting owned, cancel AoD, which will scorpion wire you back to the KD'ed guy, then kill him. won't it work? I tried it in RA but got mixed results

fireflyry · Aug 27, 2008, 01:58 PM // 13:58

If your tele-spiking you want a way bigger spike than what you have.Check a basic AoD shock sin build.

Casting Scorp frees up [black spider strike] so you could go [black spider strike][twisting fangs][golden phoenix strike][blades of steel] but that kind of negates the opportunity a knockdown brings to a sin which is often the core motivation to slot [scorpion wire].

Tbh AoD is better served to spike, gank, and get out imo.

Your build looks to step you back only to throw you back again before your ready due to a sub-par spike.You have quick recharge but no self-heal hence if things go sour your really quite buggered.

P.S I don't play RA.

kazi_saki · Aug 27, 2008, 02:24 PM // 14:24

alright. I just wanted to use AoD in a new way.

anywayz, what's wrong with RA?

Tyla · Aug 27, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

Also no DW on a spike is bad.

/Agree.

That's the problem with 'Sins nowadays, they have been took down so much that there are very few builds available. Oh, and for the record, Twisting Fangs is a stronger skill than Blades of Steel because of the extra damage through deep wound, and the bleeding, although minimalist can lead to the kill. I think the deep wound is covered too, but I might be thinking Wounding Strike too much.

I personally like this combo:

[golden phoenix strike][twisting fangs][black spider strike][blades of steel][way of the lotus]

And then a random hex for the BLS trigger, usually Shadow Prison for a shadowstep or the new Hidden Caltrops because it's got less recharge, it's cheaper and it's a permasnare from zero attribution. Shadowstep, or more usable and permanent snare... hmmm...

fireflyry · Aug 27, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by kazi_saki

alright. I just wanted to use AoD in a new way.

anywayz, what's wrong with RA?

Please don't confuse my comments as asking you to restrict build creativity.

I really get sick of that mentality here and good on you for throwing an idea out there and experimenting with builds while asking for comment.

Love it.

As for RA my personal opinion is that I dislike games of rock/paper/scissors/monk.It's Random Arena and I dislike the format as I really place luck over build type there.

Good luck to you.

Bobby2 · Aug 27, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Tyla

I personally like this combo:

[golden phoenix strike][twisting fangs][black spider strike][blades of steel][way of the lotus]

And then a random hex...

Maybe use [mark of instability] as cover/filler Hex? I'm not questioning the chain's sheer power, it's just the lack of interrupt/KD that bugs me.

Bowstring Badass · Aug 28, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Maybe use [mark of instability] as cover/filler Hex? I'm not questioning the chain's sheer power, it's just the lack of interrupt/KD that bugs me.

[Scorpion Wire] is a good random hex if you ask me.

[mark of instability] was fun with the bug it had. But it still has its uses. Still rather use something other then mark for a cover hex.

Tyla · Aug 28, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

If a Monk is aware you're going to spike them your spike will fail anyway, unless you have some means of interruption that is less noticable.

Bobby2 · Aug 28, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

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Originally Posted by Tyla

If a Monk is aware you're going to spike them your spike will fail anyway, unless you have some means of interruption that is less noticable.

Or harder to deal with. Granted, instagib chains don't leave much room for that.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Aug 28, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

[Mark of Instability][skill]Aura of Displacement[/skill][Tiger Stance][Golden Phoenix Strike][Twisting Fangs][Falling Lotus Strike][Blades of Steel][Resurrection Signet]
12+1 Dagger Mastery
12+1 Crit Strikes
Vamp, zel, and Ebon Fortitude daggers 15^50inscrips
Sup vigor and 1 vite insig. Other than that all runes of mana.
i get to 35 energy
ur gunna have to wait a few seconds for it to regain some energy after casting mark. I wish i could find something alittle cheeper and better but that combo is a insta kill on a 60 al target.

Remember this is for RA alone.

Luminarus · Aug 28, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

[Mark of Instability][skill]Aura of Displacement[/skill][Tiger Stance][Golden Phoenix Strike][Twisting Fangs][Falling Lotus Strike][Blades of Steel][Resurrection Signet]
12+1 Dagger Mastery
12+1 Crit Strikes
Vamp, zel, and Ebon Fortitude daggers 15^50inscrips
Sup vigor and 1 vite insig. Other than that all runes of mana.
i get to 35 energy
ur gunna have to wait a few seconds for it to regain some energy after casting mark. I wish i could find something alittle cheeper and better but that combo is a insta kill on a 60 al target.

Remember this is for RA alone.

Lol you stole my build (posted about a page ago), changing feigned for tiger stance lol :P. In RA (imo) living is better then IAS. But I understand where ur coming from.

X Cytherea X · Aug 28, 2008, 10:32 AM // 10:32

lol. a target can just kite and you wont even hit golden phoenix with that. even before. but now with the aftercast it's even worse.

Tyla · Aug 28, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

lol. a target can just kite and you wont even hit golden phoenix with that. even before. but now with the aftercast it's even worse.

No shit, Sherlock. Oh, and don't forget this is Alliance Battles where people think it's clever to sit there and get hit.

Honestly, most 'Sin bars are weak now.

snaek · Aug 28, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

Lol you stole my build (posted about a page ago), changing feigned for tiger stance lol :P. In RA (imo) living is better then IAS. But I understand where ur coming from.

ur self-heal is called "ending aod and runnin teh flip away out of spell range"

i mean...thats teh whole point of aod
if ur gonna use aod jus for purely an offensive shadowstep...
[death's charge] is non elite and only 5en

[aura of displacement] and [hidden caltrops] would be my 2 main ab elites

perma-snare is awesome
even if u dun plan on attackin the target
snare em, and then go cap

i used to run [icy shackles]
but then they buffed [hidden caltrops] and nerfed [icy shackles]...
and was like great....now i can run an ias -___-'

and aod, not jus for quick escape...
but also for quik travel for capping

similar to the [shadow meld]/[recall] strats in hb

ab is srs bsns

Sir Pandra Pierva · Aug 28, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Lol you stole my build (posted about a page ago), changing feigned for tiger stance lol :P. In RA (imo) living is better then IAS. But I understand where ur coming from.

As was said the running part it was allows me to live for a logn while. That and a defensive set.

as to the guy with the kites i just ran this no problem and with the ias i never have a problem with them kiting. With the ias the hits are quick so they are on their ass within less than a second of me bursting, plus the idea is to watch when they are not paying attn. like when they stop to curse someone or when the monk stops to cast woh. Your going to be watching your target nailing and running like a bitch. Only problem i have ever had was with was shield bash but that messes up all sin bars