Curse

Destro Maniak · Sep 26, 2008, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Hi guys Im using:
[skill]Asura Scan[/skill]
[Golden Fox Strike]
[Golden Fang Strike]
[Death Blossom]
[Moebius(however its written :P)]
Critical Agility]
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(can someone explain how I create those skill icons :O, I thaught bracets were enough?)

so it served me well on many vanq, hm missions and such but now I realise that:
rigor mortis on my necro hero was a waste because if I made golden fang strike [wild strike] I would remove all blocking (golden fox strike cannot be blocked too, well when enchanted, and as Im allways enchanted no prob)

now I ask you what actually deep wound do?
because I tested the golden fanged and wild striked build on isle of nameless and I killed in same time?
does deep wound do really good on bosses maybe?

pls help so that I can change the rigor mortis for something more usefull on my hero

ty ty ty ty ty

t00115577 · Sep 26, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Deep wound is awsoume, it reduces maximum hp by 20% and reduces the ammount of health the pesron is healed for.

Not sure of what % its reduced by, but it seems to be quite a bit.

Faer · Sep 26, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by GuildWiki

Direct healing is reduced by 20%. The reduction in health effectiveness does not affect the healing from health regeneration skills, like Troll Unguent and Healing Breeze, or natural regeneration.
Deep Wound will never reduce your health by more than 100 points, even if your original health was more than 500. The health lost is also removed from your current health which is why a Deep Wound can be seen as a damage of 20% of maximum health until it's removed.

Basically, Deep Wound makes shit die with less effort in less time, and therefore it is always worth being able to apply it.

Tyla · Sep 26, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Golden Fang Strike (deep wound, or +100 damage) or Wild Strike (stance removal and +~30 damage).

I think I'd use the deep wound.

Destro Maniak · Sep 26, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Golden Fang Strike (deep wound, or +100 damage) or Wild Strike (stance removal and +~30 damage).

I think I'd use the deep wound.

actually with r10 asura+wild strile its +55 and stance removal

TrippieHippie89 · Sep 26, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

since your DW question has been awnsered ill take care of the skill thing for you, i believe its [ skill ] "skill name" [/ skill ] (without the spaces)

Tyla · Sep 26, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

It's just [ skill ] now.

It's not working at the moment though.

Destro Maniak · Sep 26, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17

it obviusly doesnt work :P

Rhamia Darigaz · Sep 26, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

ur in pve. in pve shit dies when you look at it. i wouldn't worry too much about losing deep wound there.

realtalk916 · Sep 26, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

dw is great, specially sin ur a sin. if u were a warrior, if ur using a sword u have to apply bleeding first

Rhamia Darigaz · Sep 26, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by realtalk916

dw is great, specially sin ur a sin. if u were a warrior, if ur using a sword u have to apply bleeding first

oh nos, damn sword warriors having to use two skills to apply deep wound!
oh wait. golden fang strike is an offhand

DarkGanni · Sep 26, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Deep Wound works best on low health targets, especially in PvP.

PS: Sever artery + Gash kinda fail = non fleshy creatures bye bye deep wound, Say hello to Eviscerate

- Ganni

joshuarodger · Sep 26, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

oh nos, damn sword warriors having to use two skills to apply deep wound!
oh wait. golden fang strike is an offhand

don't forget you also have to be enchanted for it to apply DW. not much of a problem if you have NF but it's one more thing you have to worry about.

X Cytherea X · Sep 26, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

if you want to do more death blossoms (and thus more damage to adjacent enemies), dont apply deep wound or your target will die too soon.

Antares Ascending · Sep 26, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

I use deep wound on a Paragon..alot! Good at any time because of the 50% reduction in healing and great if you pop a target thats at 20% health, its over.

Ant

Expherious · Sep 27, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

I just think of it as most players have about 500 hp and 20% is 100dmg so any skill that does that + dmg on top is good in my books.

best condition imo

joshuarodger · Sep 27, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by Antares Ascending

I use deep wound on a Paragon..alot! Good at any time because of the 50% reduction in healing and great if you pop a target thats at 20% health, its over.

Ant

20% reduction in healing. see post #3.

Bobby2 · Sep 27, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Deep Wound isn't as necessary for PvE Blossom Sins than it is for other melees, because what Cytherea says is true. Same goes for Asuran Scan (though you can always choose NOT to use it).

Don't be seen in PvP without Deep Wound though... people will laugh at you with good reason.

Luminarus · Sep 29, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

As someone said, it depends on what ur aim is as a sin in pve. If ur aim is to drop a single target fast, then DW helps. If your aim is to do AoE dmg via moebius DB spam, that I wouldnt bother with deep wound or asuran scan. If ur using deep wound & asuran scan, foes will (possibly) drop to fast to be worth using moebius as ur elite. This is y with hh, its often worth it to make them attack another target, so ur target is only getting him by you.

The other thing to consider is that whilst deep wound is+100 damage, its +100 once. If you use wild strike twice under scan, which someone said makes it +55, and that sounds about right, then ur doing an extra 110 damage. Assuming they dont get healed for more then 50 during that time, uve come out equal or ahead.

In other words, consider the bonus's and negatives for using fang instead of wild.

Also at ur original post, you wont be entirely unblockable. Moebius and Death Blossom are both blockable, so if thats ur entire arguement for using wild instead of fang, its flawed and dont bother.

Destro Maniak · Sep 30, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

As someone said, it depends on what ur aim is as a sin in pve. If ur aim is to drop a single target fast, then DW helps. If your aim is to do AoE dmg via moebius DB spam, that I wouldnt bother with deep wound or asuran scan. If ur using deep wound & asuran scan, foes will (possibly) drop to fast to be worth using moebius as ur elite. This is y with hh, its often worth it to make them attack another target, so ur target is only getting him by you.

The other thing to consider is that whilst deep wound is+100 damage, its +100 once. If you use wild strike twice under scan, which someone said makes it +55, and that sounds about right, then ur doing an extra 110 damage. Assuming they dont get healed for more then 50 during that time, uve come out equal or ahead.

In other words, consider the bonus's and negatives for using fang instead of wild.

Also at ur original post, you wont be entirely unblockable. Moebius and Death Blossom are both blockable, so if thats ur entire arguement for using wild instead of fang, its flawed and dont bother.

you are missing the fact that wild strike removes the stance that makes you BLOCK and thus he cannot block ANY thing