Curse

Saborath Gilgalad · Oct 01, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

No Rez
/sigh

Xsiriss · Oct 01, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

If you like moebius strike just make an R/A: death blossom+moebius+lightning reflexes= better survivability,DPS and energy management.

X Cytherea X · Oct 02, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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--- quite possibly WORST Assassin Hex
--- overly self-protective (funneh to see MoR Veiled before your own Hex removal kicked in, hilarious to see you stop for MendTouch mid spike)
--- no rez in RA = gtfo my team lol

thank you for your decent analysis.
- scorpion wire and enduring toxin are the last remaining sin hexes with feasible cost/recharge after all the nerfs.
- extra cleanup is always nice. often, i remove the cover and the monk removes the real hex, or vice-versa. mendtouch = love.
- yeah i wish i had a 9th slot :/ . sometimes i bring a different utility and a res but then i feel totally naked. with no res i just feel like i forgot my pants.

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that's just a typical assassin played by a typically weak player. nothing much to see. he'll win the games that he should win (unless he's more retarded that he appears), and lose every game that's remotely close.

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I bet you showed about 20% of the total RA matches that it took to make those videos. Now THAT is sad, and i was being VERY generous on the 20%...

i had over an hour's footage of me totally pwning. i picked the ones where the opposition put up a bit of a fight. i do lose the matches completely not in my favor. but i win most of the close matches.

notice every round featured an enemy healer (that i ignored for the most part while kd-locking and killing the offense).
- see match 2 of vid 1. the augury/chill nec combined with the hammer war wouldve DESTROYED our mo/a. but i took them out, barely touching the enemy monk. even mended our monk once.
- see last match of vid 2. a shutdown mes, BB sin, and wounding derv wouldve DESTROYED us. but i took them out in the order of their squishiness. ok tbh i had good teammates too.

...

BUT SRSLY just enjoy the vids and watch people fall down, lol. i hate how youtube messes up the quality tho :/

jsn · Oct 02, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59

ill refrain from going into a e-trantrum like most of the people posting,and just make a few points.

#1 theres no such thing as an *epic* ra match
#2 each and every person you beat was absolutely horrid
#3 anyone whos done ra knows that your only as good as the *random* ppl your assigned to,you come off as if it was your assassin raping each team solo.

to your credit you did a good job in r/a and probally got grouped with decent players,and you guys complimented each other nicely.

theres been quite a few times where ive gone into ra with my assassin and got grouped with players at my level(ppl that know what they're doing)and we swept it flawlessly.

that being said...i still wouldnt make a video about sweeping or *pwning* ra

no matter how strong the illusions of greatness were.

as for the no rez sig

alot of ppl dont bring it because of 3 reasons

A.because they're tired of sitting there for 3-4 minutes and not getting rez'ed
B.because they dont feel like standing there for the full 3 seconds to revive someone
C.they're build doesnt have room for it

sometimes i bring it,sometimes i dont.

usually i have to take out a vital skill from my sin to use rez,9/10 its not worth it to modify my chain(shorten) or take out a skill like critical def/refuge for rez.

the only thing *epic* about this thread is the epic failure at attempting to gain an e-pride boost

ra is pretty much like the special olympics as far as low-high end pvp goes in guild wars

and showing a video just reinforces how retarded everyone in ra is

i mean hell...where else can you easily manually click your spike skills with a mouse pointer and still come out on top?

FreeFalling · Oct 02, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

lol @ the previous post

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Originally Posted by moriz

that's just a typical assassin played by a typically weak player. nothing much to see. he'll win the games that he should win (unless he's more retarded that he appears), and lose every game that's remotely close.

tbh I have won a few games after I, a monk, & a mesmer died the last person alive was a sin he had a war & another sin against him. He spiked the war kite'd away from the sin and then killed the sin in the correct hands every class is a noob class. Just admit it if you lose to them they're a noob for using an overpowered class or an overpowered build. If you win they are a noob because they lost. Just admit it people like you are just immature. Any class can be good in the right hands. Sins just get the most crap because alot of people attempt to use them and don't do so well.

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Originally Posted by moriz

assassins, like all beginner professions, have a high floor (high amount of effectiveness with little effort spent) and a very low ceiling (low maximum effectiveness). essentially, the only thing you can count on them to do is put out fairly consistent damage. they'll never be able to win a closely matched game for you, and subsequently never steal you a game when you are outmatched.

lol, like I said it is possible to win out matched games if a sin is used correctly. Yes, alot of people do use them as a stepping stone into pvp. Lastly it is true that you can sit there and spam Moebius strike and drop people left and right. The problems with sins are that they're a ganking class and most people don't understand that you should either jump in after the conflict has started or be the distraction that starts the conflict. Example: A sin can either hang back pick a target that is being attacked by an ally and spike it with that ally. Or a sin can rush right into a fight the problem with that line of thinking is you need a fall back strategy which most people don't have. So next time you are considering a sin and you want to rush in just think of how you will fall back to get healed or self and you don't die right at the start of the fight. Because if you die at the begining of the fight your team is that much more likely to lose.

Also, to other people who might think that attacking the front line of an enemy team is just out right dumb. No, you are incorrect if you were in a fight against me and you were a monk would you expect me to attack you or the warrior running around cracking our skulls? You would expect us to attack you because duh your the monk you die it will be easier to kill the warrior. But if we kill the warrior first we will not have to worry about having our own monk dead before we can kill your teams monk. So you might be the better monk but we killed your meat shield and all that is left for us to drop is you so think out side of the box. Next time don't just bash peoples heads in give constructive criticism it wont kill you or at least I hope it wouldn't.

Tyla · Oct 02, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

How can you fail at an Assassin?

You don't jump into the fray and attempt to kill everything straight away on any class.

Smart usage can turn games around on any class.

Failing on a 'Sin is bad, as the only decent builds for them are either 1234343434, 123123123123 or 12345678. And I'm talking about the build failing in general, because you should never, ever C-space if you're playing seriously anyway.

And no, linebacking isn't a bad tactic, but if you're spiking, you wouldn't go for the Warriors unless they're under Frenzy at that time, or there was nothing else you can spike and it makes your spike incredibly predictable which will result in failure against a team with a Monk that knows what Guardian does.

FreeFalling · Oct 02, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Tyla

And no, linebacking isn't a bad tactic, but if you're spiking, you wouldn't go for the Warriors unless they're under Frenzy at that time, or there was nothing else you can spike and it makes your spike incredibly predictable which will result in failure against a team with a Monk that knows what Guardian does.

I know I just wanted to provide an example and warrior came to mind. I know most decent builds come in the 1234 etc.. combo's. I use a # combo myself. It's just not nice that people bash on the sin class because most people jump out into the fray yelling somthing dumb like "Leroy jenkin's." (Just an example I have never seen that yelled into party chat or anything like it.)

phan · Oct 02, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

This is just fail ; and guys give him a break ; even if he's asking to be wtfleetsaucepwnd ..

& yes Cyth there are still viable assasin hexes ; getting a clean spike with sp is better than trying to damage protted things and then have to run 50m to find an other squishie target .. cuz well , sins fail at linebacking

FrAnt1c² · Oct 02, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Tyla wins this thread.

Squishy ftw · Oct 02, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²

Tyla wins this thread.

This thread has now officialy gone to the shitter.

Someone should put it out of it's misery imo.

Tyla · Oct 02, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

This thread has now officialy gone to the shitter.

Someone should put it out of it's misery imo.

It was already in the shitter.

FreeFalling · Oct 02, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Tyla

It was already in the shitter.

lol, Tyla I am going to love you aren't I?

Tyla · Oct 02, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by FreeFalling

lol, Tyla I am going to love you aren't I?

Well I guess I might aswell respond to your previous post.

Assassins are now next to useless in PvP. Warriors lineback and spike much better (Because they can carry 3 knockdowns, deep wound and an IAS in the same bar while keeping an extra free slot. 3 knockdowns will kill a Monk, and they can pressure alot harder even through linebacking), and Dervs have Wounding Strike and the most imbalanced weapon in the game. Dervs are also not used however.

GvG - There's nothing to use a 'Sin for when Warriors can carry knockdowns and pressure alot harder, with ViO gone and all. The same can be said with Dervs.

HA - See above, taking out the ViO bit.

TA - Not a good idea. Having a 'Sin being linebacked is almost like hitting a caster. Dervs share the same problem. Critical Defenses will easily get stripped if you're against a team that's not from RA, and with a Fortress Monk carrying Guardian you're only going to be able to do your stuff if you're running a SA 'Sin, and even then...

RA - Meh. All players are bad here but I'd rather have a Warrior over an Assassin anyway for most of the reasons above.

And yes, I do actually find it fun playing an Assassin from time to time. Sometimes I'd rather run something more efficient though.

DarkNecrid · Oct 02, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

the only thing i see epic in this thread is Tyla.

oh this was about RA, well I don't see anything related to epic RA ness, so heh.

FreeFalling · Oct 02, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Awe </3 from Tyla. Yes, I do agree sins aren't always efficient.

But it is a game and games are meant to be fun so play a sin!

(laughs as everyone dies from being as sin and the last of the RA monks disappear.)

hurric · Oct 02, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

if that's a good build for killing in RA then go for it and enjoy but this shouldn't be taken "srsly"

Other classes can also dish out damage and have weaknesses against other classes

Against sins, Necros say hi. (and yes necros do carry more than one hex so they can hex stack basically render a melee class useless)

killing a heal breeze monk is not an accomplishment

moriz · Oct 02, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by FreeFalling

lol @ the previous post

tbh I have won a few games after I, a monk, & a mesmer died the last person alive was a sin he had a war & another sin against him. He spiked the war kite'd away from the sin and then killed the sin in the correct hands every class is a noob class. Just admit it if you lose to them they're a noob for using an overpowered class or an overpowered build. If you win they are a noob because they lost. Just admit it people like you are just immature. Any class can be good in the right hands. Sins just get the most crap because alot of people attempt to use them and don't do so well.

lol, like I said it is possible to win out matched games if a sin is used correctly. Yes, alot of people do use them as a stepping stone into pvp. Lastly it is true that you can sit there and spam Moebius strike and drop people left and right. The problems with sins are that they're a ganking class and most people don't understand that you should either jump in after the conflict has started or be the distraction that starts the conflict. Example: A sin can either hang back pick a target that is being attacked by an ally and spike it with that ally. Or a sin can rush right into a fight the problem with that line of thinking is you need a fall back strategy which most people don't have. So next time you are considering a sin and you want to rush in just think of how you will fall back to get healed or self and you don't die right at the start of the fight. Because if you die at the begining of the fight your team is that much more likely to lose.

Also, to other people who might think that attacking the front line of an enemy team is just out right dumb. No, you are incorrect if you were in a fight against me and you were a monk would you expect me to attack you or the warrior running around cracking our skulls? You would expect us to attack you because duh your the monk you die it will be easier to kill the warrior. But if we kill the warrior first we will not have to worry about having our own monk dead before we can kill your teams monk. So you might be the better monk but we killed your meat shield and all that is left for us to drop is you so think out side of the box. Next time don't just bash peoples heads in give constructive criticism it wont kill you or at least I hope it wouldn't.

soo.... you're trying to say that assassins are good at killing bad player while being played by a bad player? gee, that's exactly what i said. thanks for agreeing.