Curse

DarkNecrid · Oct 30, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Two words: Foul Feast.

Yes, it's RA, but at the same time it's possible having a Necromancer and a Monk on the enemy team. If the Monk is any good, he'll soon notice what you're doing and Guardian the Necromancer if needed.

heh...??

guardian...??

dont make me lagugh i'll just attack through it and magically have my whole attack combo land 100% of the time nub

geeeez...-______________-.

</Cytherea>

(That bar is bad but at least he/she doesn't have VEIL AND MEND TOUCH like usual.)

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

dude... one run-through of the combo is as damaging as any 5-hit assassin spike. and if the target is still alive, you can knock it down over and over, doing decent damage as well. reapply deepwound too if needed. regular spikes dont have these options if the target survives, and must wait awhile to try again.

it is also easy to restart the whole combo again on the same target or another target, because moebius will usually recharge everything, including the energy boost (lotus strike).

in summary, it is as damaging as a spike, but has little to no downtime unlike most spikes, and has repeatable KD unlike most combos that just have one... this is ridiculously devastating and infuriating to the receiver, i can only imagine the frustration and keyboard-banging agony the player must be experiencing in real life.

No, because your target can get healed, I mean, yeah you will take down a hamstorm or a mwnding warrior which is really good, and mending spam mesmer is no match for you but, you will never kill anything with a monk, and you would barely do anything to a non-55hp monk (actually, you wont kill 55 either :P).

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

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cute

X Cytherea X · Oct 30, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

i can reapply the conditions soon enough. foul feast will ruin regular spikes more easily, you know.

necrid, that impersonation was spot-on, lol. but the bar is more effective than other combos with the same format tbh. yeah it is missing my precious cleanup though.

Igor, i guess your imagination is too weak to measure the build's power by my merely posting it, so i will PM you some proof so as not to hijack this thread.

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

Igor, i guess your imagination is too weak to measure the build's power by my merely posting it, so i will PM you some proof so as not to hijack this thread.

Rage more, my aweasomely strong powerfull imagination gives a clear image of how weak your bar is and that it will never kill anything half-decent.

Bobby2 · Oct 30, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Why is Lotus Strike such a b*tch. Quite possibly the unfriendliest e-attack I've used so far. A decent ranger will have a field day with you once he notices this attack - I've had the pleasure of both perspectives...

Unfortunately I can't think of a better alternative to make Haze-Leaping Mantis work

FlamingMetroid · Oct 30, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33

this turning into a Cytherea sucks at Guild Wars thread?
funny how that always happens...

X Cytherea X · Oct 30, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

it's obvious they are all disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. doesnt fool anyone, not me, or even themselves.

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

Rage more, my aweasomely strong powerfull imagination gives a clear image of how weak your bar is and that it will never kill anything half-decent.

who's raging, im always cool. i would like to see your bar that kills anything half-decent more efficiently than that.

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

who's raging, im always cool. i would like to see your bar that kills anything half-decent more efficiently than that.

You are not cool, and not hot either so stop fooling yourself.

I pmed you some sins btw, but if you want heres one of the more efficient bars:
dagger-14
hammer-12
crit-4
1.backbreaker
2.flail
3.falling spider strike
4.twisting fangs
5.falling lotus strike
6.blades of steel
7.dash/shield bash/death's charge
8.resurrection signet

this actually has a spike, very powerfull and short spike beter than your...thing, has a cancel stance, IMS, IAS plus the foe is one the ground all the time, great efficient killer.
Now, no matter what your argument will be, it would be wrong, for the sake of it.

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

this turning into a Cytherea sucks at Guild Wars thread?
funny how that always happens...

I agree with this statement.

petrorabbit · Oct 30, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid

this turning into a Cytherea sucks at Guild Wars thread?
funny how that always happens...

The sad part is its true.

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Nothing sad for us, just true.

X Cytherea X · Oct 30, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

should have known a cookiecutter build would be posted. ive tested all of them and have already explained their limitations. /snore

moriz · Oct 30, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

unfortunately, the builds you post tends to be even more limited, or more limited in areas where it matters. whereas most "cookiecutter" builds tend to be very effective in every area that does matter, and have weaknesses that can be remedied with skillful play and effective teammate support.

creativity is only worthwhile if the results are actually good. creativity for the sake of creativity is stupidity.

wtfisgoingon · Oct 30, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Been reading the first 2 pages of this thread. Expected such similar opinions.

I've been a long time Assassin player, ever since the release of Factions.
My Assassin is my main character, I use him for PvE + PvE.
3.5 Years of experience with my Assassin in PvE, both Low and High end PvP.

My thoughts are the following:
In high end PvP, groups are more reliable with a Warrior and Dervish.
Difficult to explain this but like some others who have mentioned, you will understand why when you become more experienced with PvP.

Assassins are good in low end PvE areas such as RA, TA, and AB.
Again, I am not a good explainer but you'll understand why if you're an experienced PvPer.

and finally in PvE. Of course they're good. It doesn't take half a brain to play PvE with any professions.

Shadowstepping:
Why can't Anet tell by now that the "shadowsteps restricted to Assassins only" concept will help and improve this class' reputation and improve their utilities?
I say buff up the shadowsteps and make it accessible through Assassin primaries only. Remove the ridiculous after cast.

It's a disappointment knowing that fact that Anet still hasn't taken any actions to strengthen Assassins for 3.5 years now (or have failed in the attempt to). Well at least a disappointment that they having done anything to provide equality to all professions suitable towards both PvE and PvE, low and high end...

But even so, Assassin still remains as my main and most enjoyable profession for 3.5 years.

Tyla · Oct 30, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Assassins will only ever see play in PvP when VoD is there; i.e Sinsplit, because of their mobility and on-demand spikability, they're ideal to take out NPC's fast.

Even then, I'd rather see most of this crap removed. (We've already had that argument, don't bother)

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by moriz

creativity is only worthwhile if the results are actually good. creativity for the sake of creativity is stupidity.

Wawwww, this would be a really good phrase, moriz isstrong and sexy.

Cammy · Oct 30, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Assassins will only ever see play in PvP when VoD is there; i.e Sinsplit, because of their mobility and on-demand spikability, they're ideal to take out NPC's fast.

Even then, I'd rather see most of this crap removed. (We've already had that argument, don't bother)

tbh, taking NPCs out is not that fast when you have to wait 25 - 30 seconds in between spikes. Mind Blast or Shatterstone split eles do it faster.

And not to cause drama, but Cytherea is r6 or r7 glad purely from RA + glad point update.

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Cammy

And not to cause drama, but Cytherea is r6 or r7 glad purely from RA + glad point update.

Thats just sad... =/

moriz · Oct 30, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

well, the last time assassins were buffed, we ended up with ridiculous a spikes-on-a-stick profession, complete with fast+cheap shadowsteps, snares, KDs, uber IAS+IMS, and really really high damage. i think izzy is a bit leery about buffing them again to repeat that mess.

right now i think izzy realizes that a class dedicated in negating positioning entirely, in a game that's almost completely about positioning, is a bad idea. assassins are now relegated to PvE and AB. at least for AB it's appropriate; they might as well name it Assassin Battles, since assassins are quite literally made for it.

PS: my title is über.

Bobby2 · Oct 30, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by moriz

they might as well name it Assassin Battles, since assassins are quite literally made for it.

Vote to make this official, FGJ!

It would save me the hassle of answering every Sin viability thread with 'but we rule AB!'.

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Originally Posted by moriz

PS: my title is über.

Titlehunting outside of GW. Some people never get enough

Super Igor · Oct 30, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

I agree, Alliance Battles should now be Assassin Battles.