Curse

Glider of chaos · Dec 16, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Ok, I suggest we try to guess the next nerf we gonna get

The one with a closest guess wins (no prize, sorry

)

Keep in mind that this nerf will probably nuke our new toys beyond any usefulness ^^

My guess is:
Palm Strike: 10 energy, 12 recharge, cripple duration halved
Mark of Insecurity: 15 energy, 2 seconds cast time, 20 recharge, 60% expiration rate
Wastrels Collapse: 10 energy, 3 seconds of all skills disable after the use

Gift3d · Dec 16, 2008, 09:00 AM // 09:00

The ONLY things that get immediate nerfs are those overused in GvG, which Palm Strike is really gonna get it. That's the only thing that i can ever be seeing nerfed in the near future.

Other things that affect RA and HA are mostly to hell with, until after a few months of getting sick and tired of hearing complaints from players and they just give in. I can't recall any specific skill that's been whined about as far as RA/HA goes.

Proud Elitist · Dec 16, 2008, 09:19 AM // 09:19

Mark of Insecurity: Revert

Wastrel's Collapse: 5/.25/20
Hex spell. Shadowstep to target foe, hex lasts 5 seconds. If foe was using a skill, target is knocked down. All non dagger attack skills recharge for 10 seconds.

Palm Strike: 5/.75/8-10
Touch Skill. Target takes 10...70 damage. If target was moving, target becomes crippled for 1...7 seconds.

newbie_of_doom · Dec 16, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

HEXWAY needs a serious nerf

Forgotton200 · Dec 16, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08

LOL, GvG is flooded with assassins now.

Zepolak · Dec 16, 2008, 01:46 PM // 13:46

If they have an idea about balance, only Palm Strike will be nerfed a little bit. With a recharge time lengthened to 6, or maybe even 8. This skill brought sins to game again in GvG and I don't think it's a bad point. (I dont play sin)
Maybe that the cripple duration will be a little bit shorter too.

But I don't expect any big change right now.

And, above all, I am so happy to see new builds and people experimenting stuff. It's so cool. Its the way GW means to be played imo

moriz · Dec 16, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

[QUOTE=Proud Elitist]
Wastrel's Collapse: 5/.25/20
Hex spell. Shadowstep to target foe, hex lasts 5 seconds. If foe was using a skill, target is knocked down. All non dagger attack skills recharge for 10 seconds.
[QUOTE]

congratulations. you've managed to make it more powerful.

anyways, the only needed nerf to assassins would be a 6-8 second recharge on palm strike, maybe with slightly lowered damage. aside from the added cripple, palm strike now allows you to run a third dual attack because of its short recharge. this ability needs to disappear.

Glitched · Dec 17, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

Mark of Insecurity (PvP Version)
Energy: 25
Casting Time: 1
Recharge: 90
Elite Hex Spell. For 1...3 seconds, target foe suffers from -1...3...3 Health degeneration, and Enchantments and Stances on target foe expire 66% faster.

I see this getting the Smiter's Boon treatment.

Lyynyyrd · Dec 17, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Palm Strike is not going to get hit that hard - Izzy originally suggested a 2s recharge, he's got a homosexual crush on it.

X Cytherea X · Dec 17, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

these skills are here to stay...

Quote:

LOL, GvG is flooded with assassins now.

not really, you sometimes see 1 or 2 of them, but not in every team.

Quote:

This skill brought sins to game again in GvG and I don't think it's a bad point. (I dont play sin)
Maybe that the cripple duration will be a little bit shorter too.

But I don't expect any big change right now.

And, above all, I am so happy to see new builds and people experimenting stuff. It's so cool. Its the way GW means to be played imo

quoted for truth.

my only qualm is that palm strike overshadows other sin options. these have to be buffed to the same level as palm strike, then we will have balanced sins.

Tyla · Dec 17, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitched

Mark of Insecurity (PvP Version)
Energy: 25
Casting Time: 1
Recharge: 90
Elite Hex Spell. For 1...3 seconds, target foe suffers from -1...3...3 Health degeneration, and Enchantments and Stances on target foe expire 66% faster.

I see this getting the Smiter's Boon treatment.

I agree with this rather fitting nerf.

Palm Strike - 15R.

Rhamia Darigaz · Dec 17, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd

Palm Strike is not going to get hit that hard - Izzy originally suggested a 2s recharge, he's got a homosexual crush on it.

omg then i'd get to run a PS/DB sin instead of a MS/DB sin that wuld be so awsum!!!!

ensoriki · Dec 17, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

I would seriously laugh if Izzy did something stupid and make MoI worse than it's original form. Considering that if you revert it, people aren't going to take it, Enchantments lasting half their duration sounds fun at first....but if thats all it's doing (sure it works on stances, but enchantments is the bread and butter).....you can do better.

Anyways MoI:
10 energy, 2 second cast, 12 recharge Enchantments expire 33% faster.

^ t'is be a stupid nerf, but I would not be surprised.

Seeping Wound:
....lol.

SOF · Dec 19, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

MoI, Duration dropped to 66% faster.
2 second cast.

Detroit Phoenix · Dec 23, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proud Elitist

Mark of Insecurity: Revert

Wastrel's Collapse: 5/.25/20
Hex spell. Shadowstep to target foe, hex lasts 5 seconds. If foe was using a skill, target is knocked down. All non dagger attack skills recharge for 10 seconds.

Palm Strike: 5/.75/8-10
Touch Skill. Target takes 10...70 damage. If target was moving, target becomes crippled for 1...7 seconds.

/signed

I agree, you have my vote!

Wubbies · Dec 23, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Anet>res sig>nerf....

just a hunch

ele pl · Dec 23, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

IMO:
All recently buffed sin elites: REVERT

Not A Trapper · Dec 24, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Palmstrike with 10 e and 12 recharge would be total shit.

Zodiac Meteor · Dec 24, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

[[shadow form]
When this form ends, you die!

[[palm strike]
After you use this skill, you die!

[[Mark of Insecurity]
If you use this skill, your team dies!

[[Aura of Displacement]
If you don't use this skill, you die!

[[Moebius Strike] +5...20 damage, then you die!