Curse

GhostSnowmanMYST · Mar 02, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Ok, my Sin is lvl.15

His attributes are:

Dagger mastery : 9
Critical strikes : 9
Shadow arts : 6

This is my buld so far:

[Way of perfection][Unsuspecting strike][Golden lotus strike][Fox fangs][Repeating strike][Death blossom][Moebius strike][Shadow refuge]

Atm, i use WoP then GLS, for energy regain, then rest of the skills, then use WoP and use GLS over, and over.

I know there's something wrong, and any advice would do.

Ghost.

MagmaRed · Mar 02, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

PvE, PvP, what games you own, what secondary you have and can get, etc. You don't really give much info for anyone to offer advice. Only thing I can say is you have too many attack skills. With Death Blossom and Moebius you don't really need anything other than a Lead/Off-hand, maybe just an Off-hand (if using one that skips the lead). Shadow Steps, IMS, IAS, armor boosts, blocking, hexes, etc. all offer useful options. You only have self healing included.

moriz · Mar 02, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

something wrong? yeah, too many attacks. a moebius build can be run with only four attack skills, three if you really want to shorten it. you have six.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Mar 03, 2009, 12:22 AM // 00:22

[Skill]Golden Fox Strike[/Skill][Skill]Wild Strike[/Skill][Skill]Death Blossom[/Skill][Skill]Moebius Strike[/Skill][Skill]Critical Strike[/Skill][Skill]Critical Defenses[/Skill][Skill]Critical Agility[/Skill][Skill]Critical Eye[/Skill]

That's my typical PvE sin bar. Sometimes I take out [Skill]Critical Defenses[/Skill] for [Skill]"Finish Him!"[/Skill] or [Skill]"I am the strongest!"[/Skill].

I use 12+1 Critical Strikes and 12+1+1* Dagger Mastery. +5e, zealous, +30hp daggers.

ac1inferno · Mar 03, 2009, 02:20 AM // 02:20

I would say first of, get to level 20. Get some PvE skills. I suggest this build:

[build prof=A/D name="Death Blossom Farmer" dag=11+1 cri=10+1+2 earthp=8 shadow=6+1][Golden Phoenix Strike][Critical Strike][Moebius Strike][Death Blossom][Critical Defenses][Critical Agility][Mystic Regeneration][Way of Perfection][/build]

Bobby2 · Mar 03, 2009, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Practical short-term advice:
Crit Strikes: 8
Dagger Mastery: as high as possible
Shadow Arts: trash points

[golden lotus strike][fox fangs][death blossom][moebius strike][critical eye][shroud of distress][shadow refuge][dash]

...is about as good as it gets for you right now. Eventually, you won't even have room for those crappy Shadow Arts skills.

As soon as you hit level 20, refer to the Sticky.

GhostSnowmanMYST · Mar 03, 2009, 07:50 AM // 07:50

First of all sorry for not giving as much info in my first post, it was late and just wanted to see the replys i'd get.

Ok, first thing, my secondry proffession is a Warrior.
I'm only using my Sin for PvE.
Atm, i don't know how to quote so, all of you said really that i have to many attacks skills, so how many should i have?

Thxs.

Ghost.

Anwyn · Mar 03, 2009, 09:09 AM // 09:09

Ghost, check out Bobby2's post above yours, that's the best suggestion so far...

IMO...

Later on you'll change out the shadow skills for the Sunspear skill [Critical Agility] <---- Assassin orgasm in PVE!!!

MagmaRed · Mar 03, 2009, 11:06 AM // 11:06

4 attack skills is all you need if you have Death Blossom and Moebius Strike on your bar, and that is the max. You could get by with only 3 if you have an Off-hand attack that doesn't require a lead (Golden Phoenix for example). Although Assassin has some skills to do what Warrior can offer, sometimes those skills will mess with your attack chain. Consider using Wild Blow or Distracting Blow to prevent restarting/interrupting your attack chain with Wild Strike, Disrupting Stab, etc.

Critical Agility is by far the best PvE skill for an Assassin. Attacking faster makes it easier to kill things, and the armor boost helps keep you alive.

The suggestion for getting Critical Strikes to 8 is good, at least until you hit level 20. If you haven't noticed yet, there are break points for the energy gain from Critical Strikes. 8 and 13 are the 2 you will want to reach for energy, but if using skills from Critical Stikes (Unsuspecting Strike, etc.) you may want more. With 8 you will get 2 energy for each critical hit you make, at 13 you get 3. Getting 3 energy for a 5 energy skill (at 13) makes it very easy to keep spamming your attack skills.

Oh, and to quote, look at the 3 buttons in the bottom right hand corner of a post.

faraaz · Mar 03, 2009, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Getting 3 energy for a 5 energy skill (at 13) makes it very easy to keep spamming your attack skills.

4 energy if you use zealous daggers, 5 if you use critical eye...

Oh and also, if you use critical strike at 13 crit strikes with zealous daggers (i always use zealous), you get 14 energy. Way more than you need to keep you going (crit strike + crit eye is redundant & waste of a slot imo).

wilebill · Mar 03, 2009, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Yes, Bobby2's build, then much later on Act1Inferno's Farming Build which also works well in PvE groups. You do need daggers of enchanting to get the most out of it.

My bit of advice is for PvE with heroes and/or henchies. Especially leveling up. Get a Longbow if you do not have one. Any old Longbow, you do not need to go A/R, the bow is not for damage. It is for pulling groups and for starting combat. And sometimes for directing hench attack; open fire on desired target and press Control-Spacebar.

Open fire on mob with Longbow. Your henchies will aggro. The warrior will get out there and take the initial hexes and ele fire for you. The hench healers are set up to take care of the warrior, don't worry about it.

After maybe two or three shots from your Longbow, one of two things usually.

1. The mob has focused its attention on your warrior. Now is a good time to switch to daggers and go kill their healers.

2. The mob is trying to kill your healers! Switch to daggers and go stab a warrior in the back. Welcome to "back stabbin' R us!" This should give your healers some room to get clear. Now get away from the warriors by attacking their healers or some softie.

Note that you can quickly run to any party member by double clicking on their name in the party window.

Leveling up I got really lazy. I would stand there and shoot with my tiny Longbow until the hench had taken down one or two and the mob casters had run low on energy, then I would go in and wipe the rest with my daggers. The laid back lazy approach.