Curse

fatelord · Mar 10, 2009, 10:31 AM // 10:31

If u want better survivability run Crit barrage ...and stay away from enemies ..

Otherwise ..[Critical] agility [critical defenses] and [feigned neutrality] should be able to keep u alive if u have decent monks ...

FreeFalling · Mar 10, 2009, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by fatelord

If u want better survivability run Crit barrage ...and stay away from enemies ..

Otherwise ..[Critical] agility [critical defenses] and [feigned neutrality] should be able to keep u alive if u have decent monks ...

[shadow refuge] would be better then [feigned neutrality] for the simple fact that you can attack with [shadow refuge] on. Also crit barrage would be terrible for soloing bosses which is what he is trying to do. Also he doesn't need decent monks to survive. As long as he has a good self healing build.

PS: Can anyone link me to the page that helps you post skill images? I wanted to post one of my sin builds as an example as a good self healing build but I can't seem to remember how to post them. I do remember how to post single skill though.

turbo234 · Mar 17, 2009, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

For farming only bosses I might agree with you. However, plenty of stuff in PvE will be dead before you get to M.S., leaving you standing there with no available skills to use waiting for your only staring attack in the chain to recharge, and possibly letting your enchants possibly go down. Oh yeah, and what if the target has *gasp* a blocking stance!? Following what you suggest you'd be SoL. Try not to sound so superior unless you can bring your A game to the table.

I said it before ill say it again. not talking would have been better. people use golden phoenix because it compacts the skill bar. and your enchants going down? is it that hard to auto-attack? and if he is attacking a foe that has a blocking stance then you can *gasp* attack someone else! besides if he is farming solo then he is going to have trouble attacking foes who can block him(such as foes with crit defenses) because he wouldn't be able to death blossom spam. so sure you could bring unblockable lead/offhand but the whole point of the build is to spam db.

Captain Bulldozer · Mar 17, 2009, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by turbo234

I said it before ill say it again. not talking would have been better. people use golden phoenix because it compacts the skill bar. and your enchants going down? is it that hard to auto-attack? and if he is attacking a foe that has a blocking stance then you can *gasp* attack someone else! besides if he is farming solo then he is going to have trouble attacking foes who can block him(such as foes with crit defenses) because he wouldn't be able to death blossom spam. so sure you could bring unblockable lead/offhand but the whole point of the build is to spam db.

So let me get this straight... It would be better if I didn't say anything... but the rubbish you're spewing out is somehow better? Compacting the bar isn't always a good idea, especially if it makes you fail more often. Having Golden Fox and Wild Strike is more versatile, faster in terms of recharge and moving to the next foe. Yes, the point is to spam DB, but that's not likely to happen with your Golden Pheonix is blocked and you can't get to it, or if its long recharge hinders you. Good luck farming with all autoattacks lol!

_Nihilist_ · Mar 17, 2009, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by FreeFalling

PS: Can anyone link me to the page that helps you post skill images? I wanted to post one of my sin builds as an example as a good self healing build but I can't seem to remember how to post them. I do remember how to post single skill though.

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gunster · Mar 17, 2009, 06:42 PM // 18:42

[Shadow Form] for farming

turbo234 · Mar 20, 2009, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

So let me get this straight... It would be better if I didn't say anything... but the rubbish you're spewing out is somehow better? Compacting the bar isn't always a good idea, especially if it makes you fail more often. Having Golden Fox and Wild Strike is more versatile, faster in terms of recharge and moving to the next foe. Yes, the point is to spam DB, but that's not likely to happen with your Golden Pheonix is blocked and you can't get to it, or if its long recharge hinders you. Good luck farming with all autoattacks lol!

compacting the bar is better when you are just trying to get to db/mobius. even if you take a couple of unblockable attacks, so what? If they aren't blocked the db spam isn't going to do anything then. Plus, the recharge still doesn't matter if you have mobius recharging it. Also, what could he be farming that has blocking stances? Oh and to your last comment it was in response to your statement about keeping the enchantments up, auto-attack to get a crit strike and reapply the enchantments.

Lourens · Mar 20, 2009, 09:02 AM // 09:02

[mending][healing hands]

_Nihilist_ · Mar 20, 2009, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Lourens, he's using a DB/MS build.

He can't use 2 Elites, so [Healing Hands] is out of the question.

[Mending] is one of the worst (if not THE worst) heals in the game. Compare the HP gain vs. Energy spent maintaining, and you'll see that it is far too expensive to come close to being efficient.

zling · Mar 20, 2009, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Lourens, he's using a DB/MS build.

He can't use 2 Elites, so [Healing Hands] is out of the question.

[Mending] is one of the worst (if not THE worst) heals in the game. Compare the HP gain vs. Energy spent maintaining, and you'll see that it is far too expensive to come close to being efficient.

is your sarcasm detector broken?

_Nihilist_ · Mar 20, 2009, 09:49 PM // 21:49

No. It's not. But Lourens has posted bad build advice before without an ounce of sarcasm, so I chose to take the safe route, and unlike him, post something other than just 2 skillpics, and explain why the suggestions wouldn't work.

Any more questions?

zling · Mar 20, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52

if you put it that way, wasn't it obvious this time that he wasn't sarcastic? I mean [healing hands]+[mending] come on... nobody should've taken that seriously!

Unreal Havoc · Mar 21, 2009, 12:08 PM // 12:08

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