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Eliza Deathblade · May 13, 2009, 08:18 PM // 20:18

So lately Ive been running and testing new builds and here's one of em

[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][save yourselves][way of the assassin][critical agility][pain inverter][critical eye]

Its pretty good I think with damage and IAS, with SY as a partywide armor buff, it give assassin another purpose in PvE beside perma sins, dont get me wrong I love the perma sin :P

iVendetta · May 13, 2009, 08:31 PM // 20:31

[[Critical Agility] is unnecessary in a [[Way of the Assassin] build due to the IAS granted with WotA. Substitute it for [[Critical Defenses]. When I use WotA, I mostly invest 15 (12+1+2) into Critical Strikes, creating a 50% of a critical hit. Anything higher than that is an overkill (outside CritScythes).

The WotA is a very solid build, but if you're going for an Imbasin, I would recommend [[Locust's Fury] with [[Critical Agility] to become an adrenaline-pumping machine.

zelgadissan · May 13, 2009, 08:31 PM // 20:31

You have Critical Agility and Critical Eye on your bar. Your elite barely has a point.

ShadowbaneX · May 13, 2009, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Way of the Assassin is a little overkill when you've got Critical Agility since you can only attack at most 33% faster, which means that all WoTA gives you is the increased crit chance. Better off just to go with MS which will allow you to spam dual-attacks faster which will give you more adrenaline for powering SY.

agrios · May 13, 2009, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Just go Critical Agility with Locust Fury and you will get a lawnmower of a sin

jonnieboi05 · May 14, 2009, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Everyone beat me to the point. Remove Crit Agility for <insert a better/fluid skill here> since it's essentially useless due to WotA.

~LeNa~

Eliza Deathblade · May 14, 2009, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Ok out of all the suggestion Ill take out WoTA for Locust Fury

Jaigoda · May 14, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Attack skills never double strike. LF is pointless with attack skills.

agrios · May 14, 2009, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Jaigoda

Attack skills never double strike. LF is pointless with attack skills.

Yes...but add a few team tricks like barbs and you got a lot of yelllow numbers popping...between skills cooldown.. LF+CA its meant for constant damage, not spiking tho..

Jaigoda · May 14, 2009, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by agrios

Yes...but add a few team tricks like barbs and you got a lot of yelllow numbers popping...between skills cooldown.. LF+CA its meant for constant damage, not spiking tho..

Yes... But take away the attack skills and you'll have MORE yellow numbers popping... LF+CA actually does worse damage with attack skills.. And with a lot of buffs, LF builds can essentially spike since they can do 100+ damage per hit, and hitting close to twice a second...

Bobby2 · May 14, 2009, 04:22 AM // 04:22

[way of the assassin]? I'm sure it was a mistype and you actually meant [moebius strike].

On that note, great build!

RadaArashi · May 14, 2009, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Yeah I'd definitively replace WoTA with Moebius

I tried [Save Yourselves!] on my sin yesterday I found that I couldn't keep it up the whole time like I do with my Paragon. I wonder if an elite like [Auspicious Parry] would be more helpful in keeping it up.

Bloodgrave · May 14, 2009, 10:14 AM // 10:14

Failing that run:

[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][save yourselves][way of the assassin][great dwarf armor][pain inverter][critical eye]

If you really want to use WotA.

agrios · May 14, 2009, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaigoda

Yes... But take away the attack skills and you'll have MORE yellow numbers popping... LF+CA actually does worse damage with attack skills.. And with a lot of buffs, LF builds can essentially spike since they can do 100+ damage per hit, and hitting close to twice a second...

Really?

Id like to see one of those beefed LF builds..do you have one to share?

Bloodgrave · May 14, 2009, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by agrios

Really?

Id like to see one of those beefed LF builds..do you have one to share?

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2935/gw072z.jpg

Along with a readout from whacking the Master of Damage for a bit. I just made it up on the spot with no real thought put into it I'm sure some people could get much more out of it if they wanted to.

I was hitting in the 120s and 130s mostly.

Axel Zinfandel · May 14, 2009, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by agrios

Really?

Id like to see one of those beefed LF builds..do you have one to share?

There's an entire thread here devoted to it. But since you asked
[Locut's sin;AXIyI3xkBUNo+T3z+TM4VhMJ]
Basically, I'd run it with an orders hero. That way you can spam "Dodge This!" every single strike :P

And before the flames come, Mobius + blossum is better :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by iVendetta

[[Critical Agility] is unnecessary in a [[Way of the Assassin] build due to the IAS granted with WotA. Substitute it for [[Critical Defenses]. When I use WotA, I mostly invest 15 (12+1+2) into Critical Strikes, creating a 50% of a critical hit. Anything higher than that is an overkill (outside CritScythes).

Critical hit % doesn't work additively, it works seperate from each other

for example, say you have Critical Eye and WoTA at 15 CS...Game mechanics will check the the 15% from critical eye, if that doesn't trigger a critical hit, it will check the 35% from WoTA, ect,ect.

Jaigoda · May 15, 2009, 02:18 AM // 02:18

I have no idea if this is against GW Guru policy, but here's a wiki build I've been developing that revolves around LF. If this is against rules to link to another website, please take it down.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jaigo...s/Locust_Cloud

And my argument against MS>DB is on the talk page if anyone wants to debate that.

Edit: Also, the pic showed earlier doesn't even scratch the surface. Take away Conjure and put in Order of Pain and Barbs, and you've got like an extra 20 DPS, and I have a feeling that pic was before the massive update to SoH.

Linking to other websites is fine as long as the content of those websites doesn't violate any Guru rules relating to post content (i.e, don't post links to porn websites, advertising, etc) - Marty

iVendetta · May 15, 2009, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Critical hit % doesn't work additively, it works seperate from each other

for example, say you have Critical Eye and WoTA at 15 CS...Game mechanics will check the the 15% from critical eye, if that doesn't trigger a critical hit, it will check the 35% from WoTA, ect,ect.

Oh my. Thank you. I should consider this when running WotA on my Assassin.

Bloodgrave · May 15, 2009, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaigoda

Edit: Also, the pic showed earlier doesn't even scratch the surface. Take away Conjure and put in Order of Pain and Barbs, and you've got like an extra 20 DPS, and I have a feeling that pic was before the massive update to SoH.

Indeed, it was taken before the SoH buff.

Jaigoda · May 15, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Also, if I'm correct, any +damage given from buffs (so possibly minus the Barbs damage, since it's on the necro's side) will be multiplied by Asuran Scan. This means that if you actually have 8 in asura and use a maxed SoH, you should get around 44 damage from the SoH buff alone (45/46 with maxed title)! Add in EBSoH, OoP, Barbs, and MoP... you should hit over 100 easily for every hit, and I'm sure you could get around 200 DPS. LF is sexy, lol.

Oh, and thanks to Marty for clarifying that.