Curse

zwei2stein · Oct 01, 2009, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by syphonus

Since I only have r1 Deldrimor, tests are inconclusive at best. Someone else would be better off doing this.

EDIT: Though with OotV and SoH on, I saw a much bigger margin. With GDA and Fertile up, I got:

162 DPS with MS
193 DPS with WotA
189 DPS with LF (though it expired after GDA, so the 1sec casting time didn't come into effect)
169 DPS with no elite.

These are probably off anyway, since GDA only lasts 23 seconds for me.

I am sure you can get someone with max rank and enchanting mod to do it for you.

No-elite 196 dps versus 162 dps with MS sounds weird. I find it very hard to believe that dual-offhand cycle without crits would get outdamaged by lead-offhand-dual cycle

Guess I will have to do the dps-tests myself later on, time to log in again!

Edit: you can also use pvp bladeturn refrain and 10 and 20 duration shout to refresh it to get 40 seconds of adjustable armor. With sologon and enduring harmony, Sologon, you can get it refreshed for about minute.

snaek · Oct 01, 2009, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by traversc

Anyway, I'd like to know if other people get similar results comparing CA to WotA or even with no IAS.

completely agree. the 18% ias decent enough to not have to bring ca, which frees up an additional pve skill slot.

syphonus · Oct 01, 2009, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by traversc

Anyway, I'd like to know if other people get similar results comparing CA to WotA or even with no IAS.

Not too much of a difference. WotA is ~5 DPS less without buffs, as far as I can tell. With Scan, SoH and OotV, it's ~15 less.

RadaArashi · Oct 01, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I dont know about you guys but the attack speed was noticeable for me when I tried only WoTA then CA.

Darkest Fullalla · Oct 02, 2009, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Wouldnt it be better to use both WOTA and CA? The ias from WOTA goes away when CA is refreashed, so you get the +crit from WOTA and the ias from CA. That seems to be whats happening when I run both.

RadaArashi · Oct 02, 2009, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Yeah pretty much.

They should just change WoTA to be a 20%...33%...33% IAS stance, while wielding daggers, that does something bad to the user (based on a risks vs reward balance) if your dagger attack is blocked or misses.

edit: yeah I like that WoTA is a stance as well as sins don't have a lot of them. There was Viper's Defense but thats an enchantment now.

dfscott · Oct 02, 2009, 05:21 AM // 05:21

I like that WOTA is a stance -- I hate getting CA stripped and it happens a lot more that I thought it would.

Steps_Descending · Oct 03, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Back to Temple strike discussion : none mentionned it but Beguiling Haze gives the daze, a shadow step (closing distance and negating TS melee restriction) and can serve as an interupt. On the same cost and cooldown as TS.

At 4 Shadow Arts (3 + 1), it applies a 4sec Daze, it's not long but gives time to chain it with another daze. If you pump Shadow to 5, daze goes to 6 sec at 7 (with a major rune). Which makes BH + silencing mod on par with natural TS.

Yes I know it last shorter, takes some stats off CS/DaggerMast and a rune. But 35hp isn't much compared to SupVigor+Survivor+Vitae.