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Old Sep 21, 2010, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #61
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Way of the assassin + critical agility + I am unstoppable / "Save Yourselves!"
Why critical agility and not critical eye?

+crit bonuses stack, +attack speed bonuses are capped at 33%.
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Old Sep 22, 2010, 03:22 PM // 15:22   #62
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From the things he said, I meant.

Besides, you use critical EYE over critical agility..? yeeeah..guess you don't like +25 armor from agility. Besides, I myself use all, Crit Eye, Crit Agility, WotA and "SY!"/"IaU." The rest of the bar is Asuran scan and 3 attack skills. (You probs know which ones. xD)
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 03:42 AM // 03:42   #63
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Trying to un-retardo this thread.
I've been looking for a good elite for my DB spammer. Since this build is already amazing without any elite it's tough to think of anything that'd make it even stronger.
Shattering Assault- might be okay, especially with asuran scan the damage is crazy.
Fox's Promise- cool, but situational. Not everywhere mobs have solid defensive skills.
Way of the Assassin- meh
Moebius Strike- don't really need it.
None of the shadow and deadly arts skills seemed particularly good, especially since you get less skill points on daggers and criticals.
Then I turned to warrior elites since I want to use SY!
Obviously most of them won't work, since they either require other weapon or are tied to strength.
And under non-linked I noticed Skull Crack.
Melee attack, 1/2, 9 adrenaline- 10 seconds daze is a pretty long time too. Didn't really test it out yet but seems promising.

Any thought on what elites might be good with DB spammer? Not necessarily A/W, generally.
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #64
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Locust's fury. (provided you run some buffs like SoH/EBSoH/barbs/GDW)
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 09:55 AM // 09:55   #65
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Yeah, it sucks because you should be going 1-2-3 instead of auto attacking.
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 01:12 PM // 13:12   #66
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Ignorance is bliss.
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #67
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It is, isn't it?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10406368.html
As I said, I'm trying to un-retardo this thread. You're not really helping if you bring "awesome" skills like LF.
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #68
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How about try new things? get off PvX, make your own builds. speaking offfffffffff, I have an idea! Something different...

Assassin/Warrior!
12+1+1 Critical Strikes
12 Hammer mastery...


Asuran Scan
Crude Swing
Wirlwind Attack
Earth Shaker
Belly Smash
Critical Agility
Critical Eye
Optional(Save Yourselves, Dash, Deaths Charge, Ebon Escape, Drunken Master) though DM would be a waste with Critical Agility, so maybe Dash or SY!? Ebon Escape probably would be useless especially if the enemys are blinded (IF THEYRE MELEE)

Minor Crit Strikes, Nightstalkers Insignia on head
Superior Vigor, Survivor insignia on chest
Vitae, Infiltrators Insignia on arms
Vitae, Survivors insignia on legs
Clarity, whatever on feet

Zealous Hammer of Fortitude or Shelter with 15^50
Vampiric Hammer of Fortitude or shelter with 15^50
Sundering Hammer of Fortitude or Shelter with 15^50
Furious Spear of Fortitude, Shield of Fortitude 16 AL

Just something different...

Last edited by Mini Norn; Oct 02, 2010 at 06:58 PM // 18:58.. Reason: Cause I can!!!!
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #69
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How about try new things? get off PvX, make your own builds. speaking offfffffffff, I have an idea! Something different...

Assassin/Warrior!
12+1+1 Critical Strikes
12 Hammer mastery...


Asuran Scan
Crude Swing
Wirlwind Attack
Earth Shaker
Belly Smash
Critical Agility
Critical Eye
Optional(Save Yourselves, Dash, Deaths Charge, Ebon Escape, Drunken Master) though DM would be a waste with Critical Agility, so maybe Dash or SY!? Ebon Escape probably would be useless especially if the enemys are blinded (IF THEYRE MELEE)

Minor Crit Strikes, Nightstalkers Insignia on head
Superior Vigor, Survivor insignia on chest
Vitae, Infiltrators Insignia on arms
Vitae, Survivors insignia on legs
Clarity, whatever on feet

Zealous Hammer of Fortitude or Shelter with 15^50
Vampiric Hammer of Fortitude or shelter with 15^50
Sundering Hammer of Fortitude or Shelter with 15^50
Furious Spear of Fortitude, Shield of Fortitude 16 AL

Just something different...
Hammer sins have been done before. They're outperformed by A/D because it's generally better to kill a mob rightout than to KD them.

And you forgot WotM.
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Old Oct 02, 2010, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #70
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Ahah, but its not for outperforming its something DIFFERENT and FUN.
I knew I forgot something!!! So optional is just WoTM.

If people wanna gogogogogo beat the campaigns, do everything as fast as possible then by all means A/D, Whatever hero builds, (prob Sabway) XD then thats cool but some people like to do different and new things.
And not get deathly bored by the same builds. Yes, I know that an Earth Shaker build is repetitive, butttt its different, which is my point.
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #71
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assassins were NEVER useless in PvE!
theyre not natural tanks, but they have their strengths if you know how to use them!
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 12:34 AM // 00:34   #72
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It's funny how ridiculously easy NM PvE has become. I'm just blasting through EoTN right now with my sin hoping that Thackeray will give me a hero armor. I'm running my sin and a combination of an RoJ Monk, Channel Rit, and MM/Curses Necro and seriously, the same mobs that used to give me headaches when I first started a few years ago now just explode in two attack chains. It's awesome. Hero synergy FTW.
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Old Oct 14, 2010, 12:36 AM // 00:36   #73
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AScan + BuH + Fast attack chain + Crit Eye/WoTA = loldmg.

If I had 4 slots in my team for damage, I'd take 4 Assassins and pump out ~1000DPS.
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Old Oct 15, 2010, 12:01 PM // 12:01   #74
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Ahah, but its not for outperforming its something DIFFERENT and FUN.
I knew I forgot something!!! So optional is just WoTM.

If people wanna gogogogogo beat the campaigns, do everything as fast as possible then by all means A/D, Whatever hero builds, (prob Sabway) XD then thats cool but some people like to do different and new things.
And not get deathly bored by the same builds. Yes, I know that an Earth Shaker build is repetitive, butttt its different, which is my point.

this is what makes good players
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Old Oct 20, 2010, 01:31 AM // 01:31   #75
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How about try new things? get off PvX, make your own builds. speaking offfffffffff, I have an idea! Something different...

Assassin/Warrior!
12+1+1 Critical Strikes
12 Hammer mastery...


Asuran Scan
Crude Swing
Wirlwind Attack
Earth Shaker
Belly Smash
Critical Agility
Critical Eye
Optional(Save Yourselves, Dash, Deaths Charge, Ebon Escape, Drunken Master) though DM would be a waste with Critical Agility, so maybe Dash or SY!? Ebon Escape probably would be useless especially if the enemys are blinded (IF THEYRE MELEE)

Minor Crit Strikes, Nightstalkers Insignia on head
Superior Vigor, Survivor insignia on chest
Vitae, Infiltrators Insignia on arms
Vitae, Survivors insignia on legs
Clarity, whatever on feet

Zealous Hammer of Fortitude or Shelter with 15^50
Vampiric Hammer of Fortitude or shelter with 15^50
Sundering Hammer of Fortitude or Shelter with 15^50
Furious Spear of Fortitude, Shield of Fortitude 16 AL

Just something different...
Well, there goes my super secret joke sin build...
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