Curse

Swingline · Oct 11, 2011, 10:25 AM // 10:25

If you want some fun try doing raptors with a warrior for LS. My heart was pounding when I hit 1.3 mil exp.

Tlam · Oct 12, 2011, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Was needing LS on my monk and thought I'd try this out.

After a few trial runs, I settled on an overly defensive team build that just handled the titans effortlessly. So I decided to reset the exp counter and record.

Using a berserker's insight scroll (only the one) I reached LS in 10 hours 47 minutes of afk (took a distracted 42mins to get there and set up).

Click here for an extreme fast forwarded video of the entire time, or here for a few waves of titans.

pvp joda · Oct 12, 2011, 11:34 AM // 11:34

rly nice done i already have it but doing int afk seems funn
edit: why did the setup take you 42 mins o_O i used your builds ( myself as a ap caller ) it took me 10 mins to get my setup^^ i just killed the first portal on the left and stood there
standing since 15 mins no death on my side but lots of xp^^

Angerus · Oct 12, 2011, 12:15 PM // 12:15

@Tlam: Interesting, did you get alot of gold items and gold coins?

pvp joda · Oct 12, 2011, 12:33 PM // 12:33

they don't drop but i don't know about event items there may be a change

Daesu · Oct 12, 2011, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Tlam

Was needing LS on my monk and thought I'd try this out.

After a few trial runs, I settled on an overly defensive team build that just handled the titans effortlessly. So I decided to reset the exp counter and record.

Using a berserker's insight scroll (only the one) I reached LS in 10 hours 47 minutes of afk (took a distracted 42mins to get there and set up).

Click here for an extreme fast forwarded video of the entire time, or here for a few waves of titans.

Looks like Ogden has energy issues maintaining his enchantments.

pvp joda · Oct 12, 2011, 04:06 PM // 16:06

my first try they died somewhere near 4h ;( those builds could need some adjustements

Pengiwinwin · Oct 12, 2011, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Thanks Daesu for making a video (saved me a lot of time) At the ~15 hour mark my group decided to wipe for some reason so I have to do it all again :P

Bad Company Sin · Oct 12, 2011, 05:30 PM // 17:30

You would take less time boxing, extremely less time Vaettirs, I havent played GW since june 1st, why are people still trying to make the easiest titles even easier, hell, make a sin, go do a shit ton of Kathandrax SC's. Farm Vaettir, (All proffessions can) or just Hero roll FoW. Why would anyone in their right or wrong mind take 5 days and leave your computer on that long (unless you already play that much) for a title that takes 2-3 hours maybe more depending onyour proffession. /Doh emote.

Plutoman · Oct 12, 2011, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Because some of us have odd disconnects every so often (in an AFK situation, there's no issues), which causes problems with Vaettirs.. Or, some of us just can't focus for 3 hours straight to the extent of not making a single mistake for 3 hours. The most I've made it farming vaettirs is about 30 minutes without dying. :P

Essence Snow · Oct 12, 2011, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Vaetirrs takes about 2-3h with LB scrolls, depending on how bad you are..

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Originally Posted by gw_poster

Do the quest "A New Escort" in HM (see wiki for details) and kill 12 dragon moss in ~45s with R/A (see pvxwiki for details)...2.8k exp per run clean (no scrolls) -- 8.4k per run with lightbringer scrolls.

So time for some maths -- starting with 0 exp, meaning you just died, you need 1.337M for LS3. Assuming you don't want to use scrolls, you need 477.5 runs at let's say 1 minute each on average with zone time, etc., so that's 477.5/60, or just about 8 hours of straight runs. Granted your eyes will be bleeding by then and you'll want to uninstall GW, but it will be done by god! You should never die doing this run unless you forget to SF before you run in, but even then you should survive a few hits (I have stormbound armor and a +10/plants shield, but w/e)...so just use Lightbringer scrolls to cut that time down to 1/3, or about 2.5 hours! At 8.4K exp per run with LB scroll, you'll need 159 scrolls and they currently cost 1.6k at scroll trader (as of 5 minutes ago).

So total time and cost to LS3 is 2.5 hours and 254K gp. More than likely though you'll want to go pee or eat, so figure on 3-3.5 hours until completion. Same can be said for many of these methods -- can you imagine actually doing 10 straight back-to-back h/h runs in FOW?? I would rather pull my fingernails out! Anyway, out of that many dragon moss runs, you should be able to pull a decent shield or two, and a butt load of plant fibers (dragon roots salvage into them), which will help offset the costs of the scrolls.Just an idea. Good luck!

Scrolls of the Lightbringer are a waste in HM. HM has an inheirent 150% exp bonus. Exp is capped at 350%.......soooo........wait for it...any scroll giving more than 200% exp increase in HM is a waste. Scrolls of Hunter's Insight will only cost around 9.3k (vaettirs), a far cry from 254k.

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Originally Posted by The Nort Magus

it actually takes from 3-4 hours to get leet with lightbringer, 7-8 hours with HeroScrolls. (Rock candies can make vaettir round's twice as faster do to recharge effects and speed effect.)

Candies do not effect recharge rate of skills, only IMS and casting time. Depending on class, vaettirs can be used to accomplish LS in 2.5hrs or less using Scrolls of Hunter's Insight.

gw_poster · Oct 12, 2011, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

Scrolls of the Lightbringer are a waste in HM. HM has an inheirent 150% exp bonus. Exp is capped at 350%.......soooo........wait for it...any scroll giving more than 200% exp increase in HM is a waste. Scrolls of Hunter's Insight will only cost around 9.3k (vaettirs), a far cry from 254k.

k thanks for the clarification...soooo....hunter's scrolls currently 800g per and give 2x exp, new maths = 239 runs at 5.6k/run. so 239(800)=191.2k and it will now take 4 hours, too...(really about 5 hr though with breaks etc)

so 191k, big whoop...you'll salvage stacks of plant fibers, get a shitton of ele tomes and gold weapons. you'll break even i'm sure on the scroll costs

Essence Snow · Oct 12, 2011, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Hunter's insight (175%) are 300g ea at trader, making the cost 71,700g ......as for dragon moss farming they all die at the same time so one could use Rampager's Insight (200%) for 250g ea, given they use them within 30 secs of killing mosses, making the cost 59,750g.

gw_poster · Oct 12, 2011, 08:49 PM // 20:49

not to belabor the point, which I think has been made numerous times now in various posts, but...when I wrote that they were 800g ea, I had literally just clicked the button at the scroll trader for hunters insight (and btw - rampagers was also 800g at that time), so 800g stands in the calculation for now.

that's all...carry on

Essence Snow · Oct 12, 2011, 11:55 PM // 23:55

I'm not trying to be rude here, besides we are sort derailing from the point of an infinite spawn, which inturn could be used for afk'ing LS. Maybe one of the challenge mishs? Although I believe they "corrected" the luxon one along with the infinite servants of muraki in cof.

I think we are merely having a miscommunication...ie...thinking of different scrolls.

Tlam · Oct 12, 2011, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Daesu

Looks like Ogden has energy issues maintaining his enchantments.

Odgen had no energy problems, what you can see if the effects of a few nasty ping spikes, my energy was reading 0 at times as well.

Plutoman · Oct 13, 2011, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Been exploring this too with my team (dillway). I've swapped out the smite monk for a monk line similar to use, but with just life barrier, life bond, succor, and blessed. I use life barrier/bond on myself and the BiP, and succor on the BiP because he sometimes has issues (even as a necro) with energy and the extra +1 is good. I also put life barrier on the ST rit. That's the extent of energy considering the loss from succor, though I could experiment with essence bond/balthazar's on the monk (taking from life bond) and adding more life bonds.

Seems to work extremely well. I've had poor luck clearing out all 4 portals, and had much better luck just clearing out the first portal on the left, and sitting there, with the prot monk flagged back. Had no deaths at all in that position, though I haven't had the chance to just sit around and test it for hours. When clearing out the 4 portals, I had the problem of getting to the right position.. Too close, and the moment you clear out the first 2 titans, they spawn new ones which hit the group, and I usually would have 2 madness titans or so left. After a little while that added up till the group wiped. Stay back too far, and you wipe them, and it takes too long for the next group to come that a scroll wears off.. Or in some cases, the next group misses you and moves on past <__<

I'll report my results and any modifications (though I think any reasonable team build can do this, that monk idea was brilliant with the bonding to keep the main player alive however).

Daesu · Oct 13, 2011, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by Tlam

Odgen had no energy problems, what you can see if the effects of a few nasty ping spikes, my energy was reading 0 at times as well.

What I saw was you began with PS enabled and have life barrier on everyone. Then as time goes on, you started to lose life barriers on all your heroes (except for your character) and you disabled PS (possibly to save energy?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ruSvlOaVo

Tlam · Oct 13, 2011, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Daesu

What I saw was you began with PS enabled and have life barrier on everyone. Then as time goes on, you started to lose life barriers on all your heroes (except for your character) and you disabled PS (possibly to save energy?).

Ogden maintained all his enchantments the entire time. After disconnecting (23 seconds through the video) the bonds weren't visible, but they are still there (see his energy degen).

I chose to disable Ogden's skills as a precaution, not because he was using them. I also decided to flag Ogden further away upon seeing him needlessly under BiP.

Beyond that I only observed the run.

gw_poster · Oct 13, 2011, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

I'm not trying to be rude here, besides we are sort derailing from the point of an infinite spawn, which inturn could be used for afk'ing LS. Maybe one of the challenge mishs? Although I believe they "corrected" the luxon one along with the infinite servants of muraki in cof.

http://i53.tinypic.com/sdefz5.jpg

I think we are merely having a miscommunication...ie...thinking of different scrolls.

I don't take it as being rude, nor am I trying to be rude, but just wanted to provide clarity on the scroll-cost issue.

EDIT 10/13: Thank you Plutoman, and thank you Essence Snow (via pm

)

I stand corrected.

In 2008 I was mistakenly using lightbringer scrolls when killing frost wurms outside boreal station with my paragon, unaware of the exp cap. Now I am mistaken in not knowing the difference between regular exp-increasing scroll prices and those available from the rare scroll trader! 5,000 hours of playing GW in the meantime and this never occurred to me

Thanks you guys for showing me the light.

As for the OP, good job. Now think of a way to afk carto and you may actually have something!

thanks.