Curse

archlord · Jun 15, 2011, 11:30 AM // 11:30

I've been going through the high end section of ventari's corner and found that people buying and selling crap uninscribable weapons for a large amount of money.

They have crap mods, they're not even inscribable, yet they're so expensive.

So why are inscribable or oldschool weapons so special?

Rushin Roulette · Jun 15, 2011, 11:45 AM // 11:45

One word. E-Peen.

However in reality it is more complex than that. They are just collecting them.

What you are seeing is like in real life. People pay loads to own an original Edison Gramophone (Oldschool uninscribable in GW) even though modern day 10$ MP3 players (Inscribable) have better quality, need less space and can hold more than 5 minutes of recording than any old Gramophone.

Addendum;

Another reason which is also rarity. An inscribable weapon is really common, you can get an inscribable Zodiac Sword relatively easilly in the GtoB and can mod it any way you want to. However, finding just that r9 longsword with +5 energy in Urgoz or the Deep is so much harder.

Most of the really high end Trades are for items that only drop in Cantha and are therefore not available in any form as inscribable (Bo Staff, Plagueborn, Outcast fro example). Or they are old and have been removed from the drop tables (requires 7 and 8 max damage/armor items [baring a few r8 items nowadays]).

Pleikki · Jun 15, 2011, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Simply for the collectibility, Rarity, e-peen, Just because in many cases its someting most ppl dont have..

Kabong · Jun 15, 2011, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Cause it's not junk put in the game by anet in an effort to homogenize things and eliminate elitism...efforts which they then destroyed by introducing inane, useless things like rare pets and tonics.

Cause it's the stuff that made your eyeballs pop out of your head back when the game still had that kind of ummph behind it.

Same reason anybody buys the real thing of anything, in gw or "rl". Cause it's the real thing. Sure you can put something similar together with cheap, easily-obtained pieces, but it's not the same.

Anyone have a red 1983 schwinn predator for sale??

the one you love to hate · Jun 15, 2011, 03:16 PM // 15:16

it's because when you farm that old-school weapon and u finally get a r9 to drop you are on your knees begging the GW gods to let it be 15^50 or +5nrg... and when it isn't you throw your keyboard at the wall.

but now when you get that same skin to drop r9 in NF or out of the z chest... u just say, "hey i got a r9, cool" and you slap whatever mods on it you like and put it on a hero.

there is no comparison in these two feelings from seeing the same skin weapon drop in these instances.

if you see one persons collection of r9 skin weapons all old-school and all perfect vs all new-school and inscribable. then you just laugh at the newer versions... they are more accommodating to be sure, but not as nice to look at

"Anyone have a red 1983 schwinn predator for sale??" i got one... but it will cost you 5 undead kanaxai... lolz

Bubba The Legendary · Jun 15, 2011, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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Originally Posted by the one you love to hate

it's because when you farm that old-school weapon and u finally get a r9 to drop you are on your knees begging the GW gods to let it be 15^50 or +5nrg... and when it isn't you throw your keyboard at the wall.

but now when you get that same skin to drop r9 in NF or out of the z chest... u just say, "hey i got a r9, cool" and you slap whatever mods on it you like and put it on a hero.

there is no comparison in these two feelings from seeing the same skin weapon drop in these instances.

if you see one persons collection of r9 skin weapons all old-school and all perfect vs all new-school and inscribable. then you just laugh at the newer versions... they are more accommodating to be sure, but not as nice to look at

"Anyone have a red 1983 schwinn predator for sale??" i got one... but it will cost you 5 undead kanaxai... lolz

Lmao quoted just for the last part "undead"
On topic the topic needing a thread is just... Anyways its because you can mod inscrip weps whayever way you want but you cant run around like the old days with a 15^50 sword oldschool it gives peopl the satisfaction of having it "drop like that" you will never be able to replicate it no matter what you say

all in all oldschool weps are kept on storage but im one of those people that takes his 15^50 longsword with nerfed vs. charr mod and beats them down to look back at the good old days

tghoodoo · Jun 15, 2011, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette

Most of the really high end Trades are for items that only drop in Cantha and are therefore not available in any form as inscribable (Bo Staff, Plagueborn, Outcast fro example)

For me its this. personally i think Factions has the better skins of all other campaigns... but i don't know. maybe its just the fact that nicely modded weapons aren't come across that often, thus making the good ones few and far between. i'm sure if Serpentine Scepters came with inherent mods only i would think it was sooo much sexier.

there's a Big difference about modding a wand/offhand 10/10 or 20/20, and getting one dropped just made that way. for me anyway. forget that functionality biz. i'm talkin bout sexiness

Bright Star Shine · Jun 15, 2011, 04:08 PM // 16:08

If you have half a brain, and know anything about statistics, I think you can figure it out yourself... It's a lot harder to get a good drop uninscr than inscr. In fact, with inscr weapons only the skin matters, but I'm not gonna go there again, if you want, I have a nice closed thread about why inscriptions are so bad and killed a nice part of the game...

Also, Canthan skins are generally speaking far superior... Echovalds, Ornates, Outcast, GoTH (RIP), Zodiac (RIP), Plagueborn, Bladed Shield... Some of the skins have been made inscr (hence my RIP at the GoTH), yet some people still QQ that they want all of them to come inscribable. I just hope that Anet doesn't allow for them to drop inscr with WoC, because if they do, I think I'll be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very mad.

Also, did I mention that I would be very mad?

AndrewSX · Jun 15, 2011, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Mostly rarity.
Which is closely connected with e-peen and skins-reqs-mods combinations.

Captain Krompdown · Jun 15, 2011, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Because these items represent the heroic triumph of perfection over imperfection. That is why these items will always be the most epic items in the game.

In the world of inscriptions, there is no possibility of imperfection (as long as you splurge for the 15^50 or +5e or whatever inscription). There are, therefore, simply no epic inscription-based items.

Epic > Non-epic...and they (rightly) cost more, too.

Way2dead · Jun 15, 2011, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Also, did I mention that I would be very mad?

i don't think you did....

Well yea like said before, they are just a lot harder to get. Getting a nice dual mod shield is way and way rarer than a shield on which you can just put any handle and any inscription you want. Also for weapons, just getting an inscribable zodiac sword is not that hard to get, but getting one with 15^50 or +5 energy, you need to be lucky with the mods, since you can't change them like inscribable weaps, also not every weapon comes inscribable, which makes it sometimes even harder to get with good mods

Bubba The Legendary · Jun 15, 2011, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Also lets see your inscriptions replicate my +10 vs charr -2 enchanted shield... Just saying

the one you love to hate · Jun 15, 2011, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by Bubba The Legendary

Also lets see your inscriptions replicate my +10 vs charr -2 enchanted shield... Just saying

two thumbs up on that one...

animal fighter · Jun 15, 2011, 07:40 PM // 19:40

oldschool shields can have armor vs animals

system.fan · Jun 15, 2011, 08:36 PM // 20:36

well i personally dont think that uninscribable weapons are more special than inscr. items...
BUT

i started playing when there were only noninscr items so i like em far more.
also if you go out in elona/eotn and farm some crap you'd get a sword and can mod it however u want...
but if u go out in cantha/tyria and try to get a special skin with for example +5energy it takes faaaar longer to get what u want.

meaning... good modded noninscr items are far rarer. thats why I and many other ppl prefer em i guess.

carnage-runner · Jun 15, 2011, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Because NF ruined GW... That's why uninscribable or oldschool weapons are so special... Because they are pre NF. Pre inscriptions. Pre crap.

That's how I feel, and that's how I've always felt. NF brought inscriptions.... Inscribable items brought the downfall of everything.

Inscribable weapons are garbage... CRAP.

animal fighter · Jun 15, 2011, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by carnage-runner

Because NF ruined GW... That's why uninscribable or oldschool weapons are so special... Because they are pre NF. Pre inscriptions. Pre crap.

That's how I feel, and that's how I've always felt. NF brought inscriptions.... Inscribable items brought the downfall of everything.

Inscribable weapons are garbage... CRAP.

I agree. I miss the days when finding a gold max sword while doing a mission or something meant at least 10k. even if it was like 19 under 50% or something. and +30hp mods were 50k+ instead of 3k.

There were also more people playing back then, so people actually got req8s and stuff like that.

cataphract · Jun 16, 2011, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by Bubba The Legendary

Also lets see your inscriptions replicate my +10 vs charr -2 enchanted shield... Just saying

What skin is it? I have a Crude Shield with +10 vs Charr and -5/20. Took it out for a stroll yesterday doing Nolani Academy zmission. <3

Bright Star Shine · Jun 16, 2011, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by Bubba The Legendary

Also lets see your inscriptions replicate my +10 vs charr -2 enchanted shield... Just saying

There is one of those in there somewhere, it's been used when doing Rragar's I think

Bubba The Legendary · Jun 16, 2011, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Its a q13 crude too I absolutely fell in love with the way it looks

It was a birthday present for yesterday or june 15 lmao not sure time diffs so ya...
& bright that round vs,charr shield is so shiny @.@