Curse

infoscott · Dec 01, 2013, 12:27 AM // 00:27

So this is my first year as a dedicated trader, and am now storing pcon stacks for appreciation later next year. From the Halloween event, corns and apples are a given, but I'm debating whether to hold onto Ghost-in-the-Box (GitB) stacks. Hearing dozens of them pop off in Kamadan does not give me a good feeling that they are anything other than spammable party, 100g/point.

But the wiki says they generate Soul Reaping deaths, and have myself confirmed this with my necro. Some elite areas this is really useful, like battling Mallyx and certain areas of Urgoz. So I can see them going to 200g or 300g/point for that, which would make for a nice appreciation. Where I am seeing real possibilities is where in the wiki it now says the GitB triggers EoE deaths to Ghost races.

Smite crawlers, Shards of Orr? Is anybody using these for farming, and could I see prices rising to 8e or 10e per stack months from now?

26 stacks are taking up space until I can decide.

Surge goes pre · Dec 01, 2013, 07:36 AM // 07:36

If this is all on wiki, I presume it is common knowledge and the price will always be 100g each. Although lately spammable party points are even less.

Furthermore- read the description of edge of extinction. (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Edge_of_Extinction). It only triggers on foes with less than 90% health. You can't just pop an eoe spirit, run in with a perma bar and tank, pop these ghosts, and kill anything. Eoe will be useless.

100g each forever...

Enchanted Krystal · Dec 01, 2013, 08:46 AM // 08:46

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Originally Posted by Surge goes pre

...100g each forever...

This, fo sho. Or less

infoscott · Dec 02, 2013, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Surge goes pre

If this is all on wiki, I presume it is common knowledge and the price will always be 100g each. Although lately spammable party points are even less.

Furthermore- read the description of edge of extinction. (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Edge_of_Extinction). It only triggers on foes with less than 90% health. You can't just pop an eoe spirit, run in with a perma bar and tank, pop these ghosts, and kill anything. Eoe will be useless.

100g each forever...

That's now what I had in mind. More like EoE, pop Ghosts, splinter volley, about a 2 second delay, then the nuclear chain goes off. I could see possibilities in SoO and parts of UW.

Coast · Dec 02, 2013, 08:17 PM // 20:17

dont waste your time/money on that unless u wanne annoy people in kamadan with the sound they make when u open a stack at once. XD

jon comgree · Dec 03, 2013, 05:02 AM // 05:02

well...hmmm....i doubt will go over 150(only if the guy buying is desperate for points)

but you do have a fair point, it would work very well in UW to chain EoE with the ghost spam since alot of the stuff in there are ghosts

i doubt it would work in SoO tho since there are near to no ghosts. Me and a guildee argue'd if fendi's soul was a ghost or not (english vs. german wiki ftw) but from what i know ghosts dont take double holy damage.(correct me if im wrong; im basing this off murakai)

infoscott · Jan 04, 2014, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by jon comgree

well...hmmm....i doubt will go over 150(only if the guy buying is desperate for points)

but you do have a fair point, it would work very well in UW to chain EoE with the ghost spam since alot of the stuff in there are ghosts

i doubt it would work in SoO tho since there are near to no ghosts. Me and a guildee argue'd if fendi's soul was a ghost or not (english vs. german wiki ftw) but from what i know ghosts dont take double holy damage.(correct me if im wrong; im basing this off murakai)

Fendi's Damned Crewman are ghosts, FWIW.

I did see a December WTB in Kamadan for GitB at 4e per stack. It appears there may be some interest. It's still too early to tell; GitB were being fired off in Kamadan as title points as late as early January.

infoscott · Jan 14, 2014, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Here is evidence of a need for Ghosts; check out this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10527771. The Buy was filled for Ghosts at 5e/stack.

Calli · Jan 14, 2014, 07:28 PM // 19:28

One person buying at 5e/stack is clear evidence of GitB appreciation. Who knows? In a thousand years, even you may be worth something.

jon comgree · Jan 14, 2014, 09:42 PM // 21:42

i was wrong earlier, boxes will be wanted, not just for the EoE stuff either ;p

Wisdom Steals · Jan 15, 2014, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Ghosts are extremely useful in things like UWSC so I think they will rise but not hugely.

infoscott · Jan 15, 2014, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Calli

One person buying at 5e/stack is clear evidence of GitB appreciation. Who knows? In a thousand years, even you may be worth something.

Precisely because I look for opportunities that others miss, it will not take years to become worth something. Knowing a lot about margins and turn ratios certainly helps.

25 GitB stacks currently represent < 2.3% of my net worth, at cost. Not a big gamble. See ectos stacks??

Calli · Jan 16, 2014, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Silly old me. I'm sure you'll forgive my ignorance then on your way to Club 250a.

Enchanted Krystal · Jan 16, 2014, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by infoscott

..Not a big gamble. See ectos stacks??

Not much profit for such a long term investment & painful due to long term storage. I so do not have the patience for this type of thing, at all.

infoscott · Jan 16, 2014, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Enchanted Krystal

Not much profit for such a long term investment & painful due to long term storage. I so do not have the patience for this type of thing, at all.

My cost was 25K/stack, so had I got that 5e deal, the profit would have been over 100% for less than 90 days holding. That's better markup than a lot of 1 point title stacks, but probably not as good as higher end pcons or other non-stackable items. If I see that trade available again I may take it.

The insight I have from a veteran player is the GitB stacks may go to 10e before the next Halloween. That's a worse compound interest than what might be had now, assuming I could reinvest in something as good or better right now (lunar fortunes perhaps?). I have +/- 600 spaces for long term investments.

I'm in this for the long term, as much as a favor to my customers as for the profit margins. If there are UWSCers scrounging for GitBs in August, I'd like to be the distributor that has it for them.

MaxBorken · Jan 16, 2014, 05:43 PM // 17:43

He's enjoying himself. Let him be

It's a game, and he's here to have fun.

Max

jon comgree · Jan 17, 2014, 01:35 AM // 01:35

GW1 was meant to be fun? News to me.

I am not Paragon · Jun 27, 2014, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I see people buying them for 20e/stack. Hope you didn't sell them yet

Ether Myth · Jun 29, 2014, 04:26 PM // 16:26

theyre used highly in uwsc, combine the boxes with eoe in vale and it can clear wrathful spirits in a few seconds. same thing can go for chaos plains, can easily do 4h in seconds with eoe and boxes. you can all HoS, Vipers defense off of the boxes