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o m g pizowned · Jan 13, 2011, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Since my HUGE fondness of Outcast shields, I wonder if any r8's are around. I know they should technically still drop, but haven't seen one yet. Probably you rich-ass collectors have got some beauty hanging around

there was a req8 +30/-5(20) one...can't remember the guys name that quit with it. hasn't been and won't be another

LicensedLuny · Jan 13, 2011, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Since my HUGE fondness of Outcast shields, I wonder if any r8's are around. I know they should technically still drop, but haven't seen one yet. Probably you rich-ass collectors have got some beauty hanging around

I don't know of any r8 (max or nonmax) Outcast Shields myself, but I suspect they both could exist and could still drop. r8 max shields and offhands still drop. I've had white r8 max shields from one of the WiK bosses in Black Curtain and from some Shadow Army thing in FoW (after the WiK boss drop.) Hopefully we'll get a screenshot of a nice r8 one posted for you here, but I think it's quite safe to say they're most certainly possible.

Pleikki · Jan 13, 2011, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Aris Freakinjo said in other thread he had r8 one drop from nm mission few weeks ago (r8 stre 43/-2ench)

Also i know he has r8 stre 30/-3 one.

There been few nice ones like r8 30/10ar etc around but not in good while tho..

i dealer i · Jan 13, 2011, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Since my HUGE fondness of Outcast shields, I wonder if any r8's are around. I know they should technically still drop, but haven't seen one yet. Probably you rich-ass collectors have got some beauty hanging around

i have exactly 4! Q8 outcast shields.. aight

will add pics in few minutes..

Edit:

and ye.. Pleikki is right.. the Q8 +43/-2ench Outcast i got a few weeks ago during a nm mission while helping a friend.. not remember which one and not sure if it was a drop or if i got from a chest..

Bright Star Shine · Jan 13, 2011, 12:37 PM // 12:37

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Originally Posted by i dealer i

and ye.. Pleikki is right.. the Q8 +43/-2ench Outcast i got a few weeks ago during a nm mission while helping a friend.. not remember which one and not sure if it was a drop or if i got from a chest..

*drools*

anyway, from a chest? I thought q8 shields couldn't drop from chests, although I have had a q8/12 purple plagueborn focus from a canthan chest before...

i dealer i · Jan 13, 2011, 12:58 PM // 12:58

i'm 100% sure i have gotten my Q8 +25only bladed shield from a chest while running @xaquang skyway
anyways.. as i already mentioned.. not sure if it was a drop or from chest.. was like 4am here and i was uber tired

Pleikki · Jan 13, 2011, 02:01 PM // 14:01

max r8 shields do drop from chests, Pongmei normal mode and overall 450g canthan chests are best areas try getting em. tho its real rare drop, but 100% sure possible

also duh aris u still got the r8 29/-2ench i sold u, for too cheap..

i dealer i · Jan 13, 2011, 02:35 PM // 14:35

ye still have it.. got sum offers on it but.. never wanted to sell...

btw.. cuz i wtb:
Q8/16 golden Oaken Aegis tac and Q8/16 Sun and Moon Shield tac.. and Q8/16 golden Equine Aegis Command?
anyone ever seen sum? searchin' since a year or so

are there any known Q8 Spiked Clubs? or Q8 Dwarven Hammers?

edit: ok i've done sum research.. Q8 dwarven hammers seem to exist.. but.. none for sale in last 2++ years..

Pleikki · Jan 13, 2011, 02:46 PM // 14:46

No r8 spiked clubs, r8 dwarvens yes. theres that one r8 15^50 guy has but asks someting like unded panda..

Bright Star Shine · Jan 13, 2011, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

max r8 shields do drop from chests, Pongmei normal mode and overall 450g canthan chests are best areas try getting em. tho its real rare drop, but 100% sure possible

also duh aris u still got the r8 29/-2ench i sold u, for too cheap..

Yeah, I know, but would they be able to drop from luxon chests, the only chest which could drop the Outcast (if next to outcast groups ofc)

Yawgmoth · Jan 13, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Farm NM (only NM) Outcast mobs -> get Q8 Outcast Shields

it's possible and not even extreme rare (perf dual mod however...

.

But you won't get a Q8 Outcast Shield from Luxon Chest (neither NM/HM), just not possible.

Da Tru Legend · Jan 13, 2011, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

But you won't get a Q8 Outcast Shield from Luxon Chest (neither NM/HM), just not possible.

What are the rules for Q8 max items dropping from chests? I know I've gotten 2 or 3 Q8 max purple foci to drop from chests in Prophs within the past year. I forget whether it was NM or HM, I can check the screenshots on some hard drive if you want.

~Tru

pedrobds · Jan 13, 2011, 09:52 PM // 21:52

would really love to know if r8 max gold inscrib wands exist, i really want one to match this ^^

i dealer i · Jan 13, 2011, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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would really love to know if r8 max gold inscrib wands exist

no... don't exist...

Bright Star Shine · Jan 13, 2011, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by pedrobds

would really love to know if r8 max gold inscrib wands exist, i really want one to match this ^^

You can get a r8 11-21 if you want, but not max no

pedrobds · Jan 13, 2011, 10:27 PM // 22:27

D: very sad day, guess i'll need to look for an r8 oldschool

LicensedLuny · Jan 14, 2011, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by i dealer i

...

Q8/16 golden Oaken Aegis tac ...
anyone ever seen sum? searchin' since a year or so
...

I haven't seen gold and 16/8 Oaken Aegis, but here's a pic of the gold 13/5 Tact I recently got (from a friend who saves all his unid golds for me to ID, so I'm sure it's a fairly recent drop.) Since there have been a few blue 16/8's (sorry, I don't still have a picture of the one I had a year or so ago,) maybe this helps support that the game could produce gold 16/8 version?

StueyG · Jan 14, 2011, 07:27 AM // 07:27

I had a r8 15^50 Dwarven Hammer long ago, posted it on guru and then 2 others ended up posting at the same time. Think I might have gotten like 30e at the time - think they are just sitting on dead accounts now.

LicensedLuny · Jan 14, 2011, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Shady Guy

Possibly the answer to this is already floating around somewhere I should have seen, but I find myself wondering about inherent dualmods. For shields, do dual handle inherents not exist? I seem to never see any. I recall it being mentioned that -2 -2 no longer drops, didn't actually follow through as to why, or how far that extends to other dual inscription inherents. They obviously do exist in game, and I recall seeing - dmg with +armor stats, along with - dmg and 20% reduction and + armor with 20% reduction shields. What about dual reduction and dual armor + though?

This extends to focii as well, and any dual examples of the would be wrappings or inscriptions on wands.

Best answer to that first question I know of was something I saw Yawgmoth post on a random Q/A thread I happened to be watching over a year ago. I will copy it here.

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth, Jan 26, 2010

Dual reduction shields (-2 in stance and another -dmg mod) stopped dropping shortly before or at the moment of Factions release. Since then inherent shields can drop with any 2 mods that come from different mod groups. There are 5 mod groups for shields:
+Health mods,
+Armor mods,
-Dmg reduction mods,
-Condition reduction mods,
+1 Attribute mods.

Before that update, the -2 (while in stance) mod was treated as a separate 6th mod group so it could appear together with any mod from any group including the other reduction mods.

From what I've seen on offhands, there are more than five groups (with all the hct, hsr, 15/-1, conditional +armor, etc. possibilities,) but I've never heard of foci with, say, dual +hp mods.

It was and still is quite possible for shields and offhands to drop with dual mods that are both something you get from an inscription in NF and EotN because the set of inscriptions possible covers more than one possible "mod group," as Yawgmoth puts it above.

I do not think it's possible for inherent shields or wands to drop with "dual suffix" mods because all shield suffix mods do some kind of +hp and all wand suffix mods do some kind of HSR.

I do think it's possible for inherent foci to have "dual suffix" mods because there are multiple "mod groups" covered by the effects available from focus cores.

Did I get it right?

Bright Star Shine · Jan 14, 2011, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

I do think it's possible for inherent foci to have "dual suffix" mods because there are multiple "mod groups" covered by the effects available from focus cores.
Did I get it right?

Don't really get what you mean here? What would be an example then?

And yes, I've got a +10vsDemons -2^ench Outcast for example (my little precious

) which would be impossible, even if +10vsDemons inscr existed (luckely they didn't make any of the vsSpecies inscriptions, leaving at least some rarities left in game to hunt for..) But I've seen +10vsFire/Earth -2^ench before too.. Don't know why they are treated so different, but they are quite handy when it comes to tanking shit^^