Curse

End · Jan 07, 2011, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

did anyone ever decide if the 15-21 Q6 cry was real

I think it was found to be in inverted 9 as it looked more like that then a 6.

novawhiz · Jan 07, 2011, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by End

I think it was found to be in inverted 9 as it looked more like that then a 6.

ah sneaky sneaky.

So a 15-21 Q6 sword doesnt exist period? on any skin?

End · Jan 07, 2011, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

ah sneaky sneaky.

So a 15-21 Q6 sword doesnt exist period? on any skin?

I believe the big deal about it was it was the first and r6 15-21 and it happened to be a crysta 5 years into the game. (paraphrased from yawgs post in the thread it showed up in)

From that I would assume no others are known to exist.

LicensedLuny · Jan 07, 2011, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

did anyone ever decide if the 15-21 Q6 cry was real

Ok, I think I showed that was a fake where he flipped a "9" 180 deg. I should've posted it on the thread where it originally showed up - silly of me not to, sorry. It's there now.

LicensedLuny · Jan 07, 2011, 04:32 AM // 04:32

PLEASE NOTE - This was the "does it exist?" question I included in the original post of this thread when I first started it. I am reposting it here because the original post of this thread is to become an index of all the Q/A from all of this thread, not simply my question.

Many kind folks have already replied to this question in earlier replies. I just need it in a post to link to if there is to be a linked index of questions - that's all.

"Staff Wrapping of Energy Storage," "Staff Wrapping of Soul Reaping," and "Staff Wrapping of Fast Casting"

I've never seen any of these myself, nor have I spotted any staffs named "... of Energy Storage," "... of Soul Reaping," or "... of Fast Casting" which would indicate these wrappings were attached. Wiki claims all except "Staff Wrapping of Fast Casting" do exist, though; of course, wiki can be incorrect. Can anyone show us any or all of those three particular staff wrappings? Personally, I've been hunting for signs of these three over a year now. I've yet to see any of them. Given the claim on wiki that all but one of these elusive beasts do exist, I'm wondering if perhaps the SR and ES wraps used to drop but don't anymore.

Cheers,
Luny

Pleikki · Jan 07, 2011, 07:54 AM // 07:54

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I also haven't seen a req7 max. Jade Sword, Echovald or any Zodiac Items.

Ive seen r7 Jade sword, Gothic sword And Zodiac Swords, But Never Oniblade/Vertebreaker im quite sure

_Todeshand_ · Jan 07, 2011, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

Ive seen r7 Jade sword, Gothic sword And Zodiac Swords, But Never Oniblade/Vertebreaker im quite sure

I know of a blue or white req7 Oni Blade - was on german PC forum last year or something. Maybe somebody who is less lazy than me could find it?

The Mountain · Jan 07, 2011, 03:43 PM // 15:43

I'm pretty sure the following to not exist, but I would love to see proof if they do since I've had a few brilliant buyers in kamadan insist that they are...

Do any 15dmg / -1nrg/health regen inscriptions exist?
Do any (or which) shield inscriptions vs species exist?

_Todeshand_ · Jan 07, 2011, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

I know of a blue or white req7 Oni Blade - was on german PC forum last year or something. Maybe somebody who is less lazy than me could find it?

Okay... I did the search:

http://www.wartower.de/forum/showthr...ght=oni-klinge

Might be fake though. Quality of screen is bad and guy is banned in forums... idk. On the other hand: if they wanted to make a troll/show off: why did they fake a crappy blue oni blade? Also Gold Value (83 gold) looks kinda good for a req7 (as it's very low)

@The Mountain: Those only exist for inherents, no inscriptions like those around. (Maybe they mixed it up with +15nrg/-1red?!)

The Mountain · Jan 07, 2011, 04:02 PM // 16:02

I know the 15/-1 doesn't drop now, just wondered if they may have done when NF just started.

Cheers.

_Todeshand_ · Jan 07, 2011, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by The Mountain

I know the 15/-1 doesn't drop now, just wondered if they may have done when NF just started.

Cheers.

I know that there were some "strange" drops during the preview event, but I am sure everything from that one was deleted afterwards... and I'm also pretty sure they didn't change anything with the inscription system after Nightfall release.

system.fan · Jan 07, 2011, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

Ive seen r7 Jade sword, Gothic sword And Zodiac Swords, But Never Oniblade/Vertebreaker im quite sure

any screens of jade / zodiac? would like to see that...

Here's a screen of white req7 oni...

sry for german bad quality pic, but i know its real.
(btw those still drop, from the oni(s) in cantha tutorial)

Matrix Arcade · Jan 07, 2011, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I have an oni like that myself. (bought it from a guy @wartower btw). So yes, they're real.

carnage-runner · Jan 07, 2011, 10:36 PM // 22:36

No species armor inscriptions. That's only a classic mod :P And the 15/-1 mods are also only inherent. No inscriptions have ever been noted on those for either health or energy degen. It would be quite interesting to be proven wrong but alas... Burden of proof lies with the person claiming they are real.

LicensedLuny · Jan 07, 2011, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by The Mountain

I'm pretty sure the following to not exist, but I would love to see proof if they do since I've had a few brilliant buyers in kamadan insist that they are...

Do any 15dmg / -1nrg/health regen inscriptions exist?
Do any (or which) shield inscriptions vs species exist?

If you have an account with both Factions and Nightfall, you can see a list of all the available inscriptions short of "Measure for Measure" and "Show Me the Money" from the Priests of Balthazars' item unlock screen I think. (There will be some missing from his list if you're account does not have both Factions and Nightfall.)

So here's another, "no, I don't think they exist" for
- inscriptions that give 10 armor vs. species
- inscriptions that give dmg +15% with the condition of -1 health or energy regen.
- similarly, no inscriptions that give dmg +15% unconditional.

There has been and still is A LOT of inscribable gear going through the market. I think it's pretty safe to say that if anything appeared with such inscriptions, we'd know about it by now.

With regards to them perhaps appearing during NF preview, I doubt that, too. Of course, nothing from the NF preview stayed in game, so even if they did occur then, they still do not exist now. There wasn't access to storage during the preview, and ANet wiped inventories and progress on all characters created during that preview weekend. Given that people explored and listed all manner of things they found on the wikis during the preview, I think if there had been such inscriptions even then we'd see historical evidence of it on wikis somewhere.

Note/Disclaimer - that Priest of Balthazar trick does not work quite as well for weapon suffix mods. He never has the slaying suffix mods available to unlock at all. Those are PvE-only. With that exception, I think the rest of this prefix and suffix mods will tell you what is and is not possible in PvE, too.

Subject Change

Any feedback on the new OP?

I agree that this thread will likely be rather chaotic, and any individual question is often easier to ask and answer in a separate thread. The trouble is, relatively few people see each of those threads. The answers get buried, so the next guy with that question winds up asking it again. That's my motivation for keeping a thread like this with multiple questions - the traffic and potential benefit of more people learning more interesting GW trivia.

I don't want to discourage relevant discussion here, but I'm hoping we can keep the list in the OP helpful to those just joining the discussion or just looking for a quick answer to something we've already "answered" here.

FWIW - the r7 sword thing going on ... I never quite found where that question was posed, but I will work on getting something relevant to the discussion on them into the OP next time I update.

Cheers,
Luny

Yawgmoth · Jan 08, 2011, 01:33 AM // 01:33

First, I don't know why it's still being debated - remember: max stats req.7 cannot drop anymore since the nerf, even as a white.

This is something completely 100% certain, there's not a 0.000001% chance of that happening since the nerf. That's just how the drop generation system works, I have explained that in detail many times in other threads.

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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

"Staff Wrapping of Energy Storage," "Staff Wrapping of Soul Reaping," and "Staff Wrapping of Fast Casting"

I've never seen any of these myself, nor have I spotted any staffs named "... of Energy Storage," "... of Soul Reaping," or "... of Fast Casting" which would indicate these wrappings were attached. Wiki claims all except "Staff Wrapping of Fast Casting" do exist, though; of course, wiki can be incorrect. Can anyone show us any or all of those three particular staff wrappings? Personally, I've been hunting for signs of these three over a year now. I've yet to see any of them. Given the claim on wiki that all but one of these elusive beasts do exist, I'm wondering if perhaps the SR and ES wraps used to drop but don't anymore.

Cheers,
Luny

The staff wrappings of +1attribute(xx%) have always used the same list of possible attributes as the inherent HCT/HSR mods, they also have always excluded Fast Casting, Energy Storage and Soul Reaping. Also I think there's no reason to think just one of them could have dropped at some point but not the others.

* insc Shadow Staffs again

OP needs a fix, the complete list of possible attributes is:

[E] Energy Storage - very common; Air, Earth, Fire, Water - very rare
[Mo] Divine Favor - very common; Smiting - very rare; (no Healing or Protection)
[Me] Inspiration - very common; Domination, Illusion - very rare; (no Fast Casting)
[N] Soul Reaping - very common; Blood, Curses, Death - very rare
[Rt] Spawning Power - very common; Channeling, Communing - very rare; (no Restoration)

Pleikki · Jan 08, 2011, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by system.fan

any screens of jade / zodiac? would like to see that...

Here's a screen of white req7 oni...

sry for german bad quality pic, but i know its real.
(btw those still drop, from the oni(s) in cantha tutorial)

Atleast image of jade is somewhere here on guru, Would take good time to search i guess tho O.o

_Todeshand_ · Jan 08, 2011, 12:31 PM // 12:31

I checked some things on the inscr. Shadow Staves, and I now know of a req10 smiting (gold), req12 smiting (gold) and my guildie "i dealer i" claims to have a req9 Domination one (he was too lazy to look for it last time, but I'm quite optimistic we can deliver a screenshot within the next days

). I know Gutemuh doubts that, but I have strong reasons to believe him.

http://www.wartower.de/forum/showthr...t=schattenstab (req10 smiting)

http://www.wartower.de/forum/showthr...t=schattenstab (req12 smiting)

PS: Funny sidenote -> both were owned by Gutemuh... same guy asking here

Edit: And I'm also 100% certain no req7 max drop anymore.

Gutemuh · Jan 08, 2011, 06:31 PM // 18:31

I´m "the guy", uhhh

I asked for/showed these here on guru and on german sites on many occations. No secrets there.

Dealer told me once, he had a Q9 Dom and Q9 Earth, I never said I dont believe him, I just want him to show them. Maybe here

Thx, for the list Yawgmoth. Never found anything that would contradict that. With freak-items like these I always had the feeling that they were accidents done by lazy interns and maybe they screwed it really up and there is a prot...

But oh well..

For example, for a while I farmed the shiro´ken during "Kormir's Crusade" in search for insc. Platinum Wands (my guild still laughs about that). No luck. Only Elona-items, interns did their job.

Anyone ever saw a Q8 shadow sword or shield (insc)? Would be like the gloom shield.

Muh

PS: Too much talk here, I need to bring something new

Pleikki · Jan 09, 2011, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Well Guess that chaos axe came from same spot in nf where purple insc chaos axes came?

* The Floodplain of Mahnkelon (Only during Drakes on the Plain)
o Obsidian Furnace Drake