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Old Jun 02, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05   #1
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List updated up to and including post 524, page 26, July 11th, 2016.

Do you wonder what the game's maximum and minimum possible damage, energy, armor, etc. for each requirement level are? We do, too! Let's keep notes!

req 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Axe Max 6-12 6-12 6-14 6-16 7-19 6-22 7-21 6-24 7-20 6-25 7-18 6-27 7-21 6-28 7-21 6-28 6-28 6-28 6-28
Min 3-5 5-10 5-10 5-11 5-11 5-10 5-11 5-13 5-15 5-23 6-17 5-23 6-20 5-22 5-25 6-27
Bow Max 9-13 9-13 10-16 11-18 12-20 13-22 14-24 14-25 14-27 15-28 15-28 15-28 15-28 15-28
Min 4-6 8-12 8-11 8-12 8-12 8-11 8-12 9-14 10-16 11-18 12-21 12-23 13-25 14-27
Dagger Max 4-7 - 5-9 5-11 6-12 6-13 7-14 7-15 7-16 7-17 7-17 7-17 7-17 7-17
Min 1-3 - 4-7 4-7 4-8 4-7 4-8 4-8 4-9 5-11 6-13 6-14 6-15 7-16
Focus Max 6 6 7 8 9 10 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 12
Min 3 6 7 6 6 6 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 12
Hammer Max 11-15 11-16 12-18 13-21 15-24 16-28 17-30 18-32 18-34 19-35 19-35 19-35 19-35 19-35
Min 4-6 10-15 9-14 9-14 9-14 9-13 9-14 11-17 12-19 13-22 15-26 16-29 16-31 18-34
Scythe Max 8-17 8-17 9-18 8-19 9-24 10-28 10-32 10-34 9-37 10-35 9-40 10-27 9-41 10-29 9-41 10-34 9-41 9-41 9-41
Min 3-6 7-15 7-15 9-24 7-14 7-15 7-16 8-20 8-21 8-26 8-34 9-30 8-34 8-37 9-41
Shield Max 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 16 16 16 16 16
Min 4 8 8 8 8 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 16
Spear Max 8-12 8-12 10-15 10-15 11-19 12-21 13-23 13-24 14-26 14-27 14-27 14-27 14-27 14-27
Min 3-5 8-12 7-11 8-13 8-12 7-10 8-12 9-14 9-15 10-18 12-22 12-23 12-24 14-27
Staff (below) Max - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Min - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sword Max 8-10 8-11 9-12 11-14 12-16 13-18 14-19 14-20 15-22 15-22 15-22 15-22 15-22 15-22
Min 3-4 7-9 7-9 7-9 7-9 7-9 7-9 8-11 9-13 10-14 11-16 12-18 14-20 15-22
Wand Max 7-11 7-11 8-13 9-14 9-16 10-18 10-19 11-20 11-21 11-22 11-22 11-22 11-22 11-22
Min 4-6 6-10 7-11 7-10 6-10 6-10 7-10 7-12 8-13 8-14 9-16 9-18 10-20 11-21

req 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Staff white/blue Max HSR 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-11 13/6/8-13 14/7/9-14 14/8/9-16 15/8/10-17 16/9/10-19 16/9/11-20 17/10/11-21 18/10/11-21 17/10/11-22 18/10/11-22 18/10/11-21 -
Min HSR 10/3/4-6 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 13/7/7-12 14/7/8-13 14/8/8-14 15/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 17/10/10-20 -
Max Ene 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-11 13/6/8-13 14/7/9-14 14/8/9-16 15/8/10-17 16/9/10-19 16/9/11-20 17/10/11-21 18/10/11-21 17/10/11-22 18/10/11-22 17/10/11-22 -
Min Ene 10/3/4-6 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 13/6/8-12 14/7/8-13 14/8/8-14 15/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 17/10/10-20 -
Max DMG 12/5/7-11 12/6/7-11 13/6/8-13 14/7/9-14 14/8/9-16 15/8/10-17 16/9/10-19 16/9/11-20 17/10/11-21 17/10/11-22 17/10/11-22 18/10/11-22 17/10/11-22 -
Min DMG 10/3/4-6 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/7-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/6-10 12/6/7-10 13/7/7-12 14/7/8-13 14/8/8-14 15/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 17/10/10-20 -
Staff purple/gold Max HSR 14/6/7-11 14/6/7-10 15/7/8-13 15/7/9-14 17/8/9-15 17/8/10-17 18/10/10-18 19/9/10-19 20/10/11-21 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22
Min HSR 11/5/6-9 11/5/7-11 13/6/7-11 11/5/7-10 11/5/6-10 11/6/7-11 11/6/7-11 12/6/7-11 13/6/9-15 13/8/9-16 14/8/10-18 15/10/11-21 16/9/10-19 17/10/11-22
Max Ene 14/6/7-11 14/6/7-10 15/7/8-13 14/8/8-13 16/8/9-16 16/9/9-15 18/10/10-18 18/10/11-20 20/10/11-21 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22
Min Ene 12/5/5-8 12/5/7-10 13/6/7-11 11/5/7-10 11/5/6-10 12/5/8-12 13/5/7-11 12/6/7-11 13/6/9-15 13/7/9-16 16/8/9-16 16/8/10-19 16/9/10-19 17/10/11-22
Max DMG 14/6/7-11 14/6/7-10 15/7/8-13 15/7/9-14 16/8/9-16 16/8/10-18 18/9/10-19 18/10/11-20 20/10/11-21 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22 20/10/11-22
Min DMG 12/5/5-8 12/5/7-10 13/6/7-11 11/5/7-10 11/5/6-10 11/6/7-11 12/7/7-11 12/6/7-11 15/7/8-14 15/8/9-15 16/8/9-16 16/9/10-18 16/9/10-19 19/10/11-21


Claims for better stuff to have dropped:
7-12 q5 Dagger, 7-17 q8 Dagger, 9 q3 Focus, 10-16 q3 Spear


Still drops in gold: (listed them by req regardless of wep type, as this won´t affect it)
q13-q7 (those are not rare at all and everyone has seen them.)
q6/5
q4
q3


Pre-nerf low/high stats: (as there won´t be enough data to come even close to pre NF mins and maxs for certain req, I just listed them here in the following spoiler for anyone who is interested in old stuff. including q7 and q8 for any weapon type)




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  • This is a work in progress showing the max and min stats we've found so far for drops by requirement (or widely understood/known max values.) If you find a better version, post us a screenshot and tell us when and where it dropped!
  • Please be detailed when posting a new record here! We need ...
    • to know if the item dropped before or after the release of the Nightfall campaign. (The drop tables seem to have changed when NF was released. Stats from gear that dropped before NF are listed "Pre NF." It is unlikely that we'll complete the max stats by requirement for every Pre NF item. It is even less likely that we'll ever determine if there was a difference before and after NF for the min stats by req.)
    • a picture! Take a screenshot if at all possible and include it with your post. If you really have no way to take shots yourself, ask in your post - perhaps someone from this thread can meet you in game and take the picture from a trade window.
    • Not quite sure if your item sets a new record? Please do go ahead and post a picture with what you know about when and where it dropped. It's better to risk posting something that isn't a new record than risk missing out on something that is!
  • Even junky white, blue and purple drops may show us info on the actual minimums and maximums in the game's programming, so keep an eye on those and feel free to post shots.
  • Pay attention to both the min and max damage listed, as there may be multiple records for any given req. (For example, 6-25 and 7-24 for the same req. axe.) Staves are a special case, as they have three built-in stats: HSR, energy and damage. Even if your staff has only one stat that breaks a current record, please post it.
  • We will list the best and worst stat(s) we find for each req level. If you get an item drop with the same stats as are already pictured here you're certainly allowed to post a pic, but the list will usually include a link to only the first posted pic of the record-breaking (max or min) stats found so far. The Gallery in a single post may or may not ever be compiled.
For items which still drop today, we believe there is no difference between inscribable and inherent sources when it comes to the range of stats for any given requirement level. Based on the data we've seen there was apparent consensus in discussion before the Jan. 23, 2012 update, and we decided we had enough data to support that theory. From this update forward we no longer track inscribable and inherent source area loot separately.

Thanks to everyone who helps out!

If you notice mistakes or have suggestions for improvements, please feel free to let us know!

Looking for PC advice?
This thread really is simply a research project to try to determine the game code's limits for drops. If you think your low-req item might be valuable, there is a Price Check section of Ventari's as well as a forum search tool and auction system you can sometimes use to find PC history for similar items. In general, there is little use for non-max martial or spellcasting weapons outside of presearing, so such things will probably not be worth much, if anything, in the player-to-player market. There is/has been demand for some types of min-req/max-stat inscribable shields and foci. Without an inscription slot, there is almost no demand unless the particular shield or focus includes two, max or near-max and desirable inherent bonus mods.
Please note, this thread is far from "Luny's." This project was inspired by an April 2008 thread from Moloch Vein. This particular thread was started in June 2010 by Ariena Najea, and he agreed to let me take over the OP in Oct. 2010 because I had more time to compile the findings into a central list. The findings, of course, are thanks to all the folks who post here! I appreciate the well wishes, but please do not mistake that I should get anything near sole credit for this project.
Cheers & Happy Hunting, Luny
Thanks a lot to Luny for taking care of this thread over the past 1.5 years! We have steadily come closer to the "real" min and max end of DMG for certain req and Luny kept everything in order, so that everyone has been able to check. By taking over the OP I implemented some of my own design ideas in order to make it way easier to actually use the list as reference. I hope everyone is happy with it In case you have any ideas about how to improve the thread in any way - feel free to PM or post! Thanks and have fun @ farming, screening and posting, cheers Red
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05   #2
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Luny´s OP

List updated up to and including post 426, page 22, Feb. 12, 2012.

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Do you wonder what the game's maximum and now minimum possible damage, energy, armor, etc. for each requirement level are? We do, too! Let's keep notes!
  • This is a work in progress showing the max and min stats we've found so far for drops by requirement (or widely understood/known max values.) If you find a better version, post us a screenshot and tell us when and where it dropped!

  • Please be detailed when posting a new record here! We need ...
    • to know if the item dropped before or after the release of the Nightfall campaign. (The drop tables seem to have changed when NF was released. Stats from gear that dropped before NF are are listed "Pre NF." It is unlikely that we'll complete the max stats by requirement for every Pre NF item. It is even less likely that we'll ever determine if there was a difference before and after NF for the min stats by req.)
    • a picture! Take a screenshot if at all possible and include it with your post. If you really have no way to take shots yourself, ask in your post - perhaps someone from this thread can meet you in game and take the picture from a trade window.
    • Not quite sure if your item sets a new record? Please do go ahead and post a picture with what you know about when and where it dropped. It's better to risk posting something that isn't a new record that risk missing out on something that is!

  • Even junky white, blue and purple drops may show us info on the actual minimums and maximums in the game's programming, so keep an eye on those and feel free to post shots.

  • Pay attention to both the min and max damage listed, as there may be multiple records for any given req. (For example, 6-25 and 7-24 for the same req. axe.) Staffs are a special case, as they have three built-in stats: HSR, energy and damage. Even if your staff has only one stat that breaks a current record, please post it.

  • We will list the best and worst stat(s) we find for each req. level. If you get an item drop with the same stats as are already pictured here you're certainly allowed to post a pic, but the list will usually include a link to only the first posted pic of the record-breaking (max or min) stats found so far. The Gallery in a single post may or may not ever be compiled.
For items which still drop today, we believe there is no difference between inscribable and inherent sources when it comes to the range of stats for any given requirement level. Based on the data we've seen there was apparent consensus in discussion before the Jan. 23, 2012 update, and we decided we had enough data to support that theory. From this update forward we no longer track inscribable and inherent source area loot separately.

We're also curious to find the minimum req. items can still drop with gold text. So let's see some screenshots of current gold-text loot drops for every req., every weapon and see if we can't find the current limits. Ideally, show us screenshots of unidentified gold loot still on the ground "Assigned to" someone so there is no question that they're recent. In a pinch, a screenshot of a gold inscribable item after it is picked up is also acceptable.
(There are some r0 gold items still in the game, but there has been no news of the game still producing gold items in extremely low requirements. We'd like to figure out the lower limit(s) req. for new gold-text loot to drop. The prediction is that golds don't drop below r4 anymore.)



Swords

Axes
Note: Some non-max axes have a minimum damage as high as 7. (Max. axes have a range of 6-28 damage.)

Hammers

Bows

Daggers

Spears

Scythes
Note: Some non-max scythes have a minimum damage as high as 10. (Max. scythes have a range of 9-41 damage.)

Shields

Staffs
Staff statistics are listed in the format of HSR/ENE/DMG: built-in chance for half skill recharge, built-in energy, damage range. The various minimums and maximums for each of those three stats may not be linked.

We thought white and blue staffs dropped as loot can have up to 10 energy and 11-22 damage in r9 or higher, but they couldn't have over 17% built-in HSR. (Purple and gold loot staffs can have all three stats maxed in r9 or higher.) Thanks to Yawgmoth for this explanation.
On Feb. 7, 2012, fallenangel found a blue staff with 18% HSR which proves there's a more complex system at work here. We need to watch white and blue staffs more closely!

Staffs which dropped before an update made them all include 20% (max) all spells HSR do not have the same base stats as modern staffs. Those are not included on this list, but "max" versions could be found with req. as low as 7. Pleikki has a screenshot of a "max" one. phoenixtech has a screenshot of a no-req one.

Wands

Foci

Thanks to everyone who helps out!

If you notice mistakes or have suggestions for improvements, please feel free to let us know!

Looking for PC advice?
This thread really is simply a research project to try to determine the game code's limits for drops. If you think your low-req item might be valuable, there is a Price Check section of Ventari's as well as a forum search tool and auction system you can sometimes use to find PC history for similar items. In general, there is little use for non-max martial or spellcasting weapons outside of presearing, so such things will probably not be worth much, if anything, in the player-to-player market. There is/has been demand for some types of min-req/max-stat inscribable shields and foci. Without an inscription slot, there is almost no demand unless the particular shield or focus includes two, max or near-max and desirable inherent bonus mods.

"This list hasn't been updated recently."
I don't always have as much time for GW and Guru as I'd like, so yes the OP here does get out of date. Sorry. However, PLEASE do keep reporting findings! As has happened in the past, someone else may take over maintaining this thread or I might get an update done myself. The data you submit is interesting and helpful to folks even if it doesn't appear in the original list in a timely fashion. (See this post if you're interested in taking over stewardship of this OP.)
Please note, this thread is far from "Luny's." This project was inspired by an April 2008 thread from Moloch Vein. This particular thread was started in June 2010 by Ariena Najea, and he agreed to let me take over the OP in Oct. 2010 because I had more time to compile the findings into a central list. The findings, of course, are thanks to all the folks who post here! I appreciate the well wishes, but please do not mistake that I should get anything near sole credit for this project.
Cheers & Happy Hunting, Luny
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 01:07 AM // 01:07   #3
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 01:25 AM // 01:25   #4
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hmm.... are we also allowed to post pics of weapons we sold?

Also Shieldies are missing in your list^^


EDIT:

If so:

for the Hammers. I sold that in mid 2008 or so. If screenie isn't good enough, I think I have some more

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Old Jun 02, 2010, 04:52 AM // 04:52   #5
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Sword
Req 8 - 15-22
Req 7 - 15-22 (pre-nerf), 15-21? (post-nerf) Post nerf 14-21 i thinks or 14-20
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Axe
Req 8 - 6-28
Req 7 - 6-28 (pre-nerf), 6-27? (post-nerf) Post nerf i think 6-25
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1


Hammer
Req 8 - 19-35
Req 7 19-35 (nerfed yeye)
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Bow
Req 8 - 15-28
Req 7 - 14-25?
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Dagger
Req 8 - 7-17
Req 7 - 7-16?
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Spear
Req 8 12-25 ive seen
Req 7
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Scythe
Req 8
Req 7
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Staff
Req 8 - 11-22, HSR 20%
Req 7 11-22, Nerfed, i think highest possible now is 10-20, Used own this:

Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Wand
Req 8 - 11-22
Req 7 10-20 me thinks
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1

Focus
Req 8 - 12 energy
Req 7 12energ
Req 6 11energ, i had one of these dropping lil ago
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1
Req 6
Req 5
Req 4
Req 3
Req 2
Req 1
Theres my opinions on few
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 06:22 AM // 06:22   #6
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Cheers Ari!

A couple suggestions if you're willing to take this on ...
  • You forgot shields.
  • Add no-req to the list below req. 1
  • I'm guessing that in addition to pre/post nerf stats for inherent gear, you'll need a separate column for inscribable gear. For example, the max available armor on a req 7 inherent shield is 16, but it's 15 for inscribable shields.
  • You might also consider listings for things like axes and scythes where non-max versions can appear with above max minimum damage. Like 7-24 on an axe and 10-31 on a scythe. (I'm not sure if that happens on any other weapon types.)

So here are ones I can help with.

Inscribable Shields that I've seen and/or still have:
no-req the max armor is 8
r5 the max armor is 13
r6 the max armor is 14
r7 the max armor is 15
r8 the max armor is 16
I think that's fairly common knowledge, but if you need screenshots I can make some for some of those.

Inscribable Swords: I'm pretty sure there have been a few r8 15-22 inscribable swords around. I don't know of any other inscribable weapon that's been known to exist with max damage and lower than r9.

I have attached screenshots for the following. Some I still have; some I saw in trade windows.

Inscribable (recurve, hornbow & longbow) bow: r8 14-26
Inscribable spear: r2 9-13
Inscribable scythe:
- r8 9-39
- r5 10-31
Inscribable daggers:
- r6 6-13
- r7 7-15
- r8 7-16
Inscribable foci:
- no req e+6
- r2 e+7
- r6 e+11 no, it's not a typo.
- r7 e+11
- r8 e+12

Inherent foci:
- r6 e+11 (The one in the picture dropped in NM Wajjun Bazaar on Nov 18, 2009)
- r7 e+11 (The one in the picture dropped in HM Diessa Lowlands on Apr. 29, 2010)



EDIT - Dec. 15, 2010 - It seems I've hit a cap or glitch with guru attachments, so I'm editing all my posts here with photobucket-hosted versions of these pics instead

EDIT - Feb. 12, 2012 - fixing thumb link to direct instead of photobucket album
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 02:11 PM // 14:11   #7
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For the last couple months I've been doing a similar research myself (among a few others), but only counting weapons that can drop now, every one recorded I have seen drop myself and have screenshotted the more exceptional ones.

A

BOLD are weapons that I confirm seeing that I believe are max for a given req which can drop now
if not bold then I believe a better one may be possible, but I haven't witnessed one.

ALL OF THEM CAN DROP NOW:

Shield
R0 8
R1 9
R2 10
R3 11
R4 12
R5 13
R6 14
R7 15
R8 16

it's a simple linear function here, no exceptions.


Focus
R0 6
R1 6 - can r1/7 drop?
R2 7 - can r2/8 drop?
R3 8
R4 9 (most likely max)
R5 10
R6 11
R7 11
R8 12

Daggers
R0 ?
R1 ?
R2 ?
R3 5-10
R4 ?
R5 7-12 - - maybe 7-13 is possible but haven't seen
R6 7-13 - - maybe 7-14 is possible but haven't seen
R7 7-15
R8 7-16

Axe
.. need moar data
R6 7-21
R7 6-25
R8 6-26

Sword
R6 13-18 - - at least a 13-19 should still drop or even better
R7 14-20 - - at least a 14-21 should still drop
R8 15-22

Hammer
R6 17-30 - may be best possible r6

Bow
R4 12-19
R5 ?
R6 13-22
R7 14-25
R8 14-27 - should be max and I should have a screenshot

Staff HSR/ENE/DMG
R5 16/8/9-15
R6 17/9/10-18
R7 16/10/11-20
R8 19/9/11-20

Wand
R0 7-11
R1 ? - 7-12?
R2 ?
R3 ?
R4 9-16
R5 9-16 - surely can be better
R6 10-19
R7 11-20
R8 11-21

Scythe
R6 9-31 - - seems it can be better
R7 9-35 - - seems it can be better
R8 9-39 - - heard rumors of 9-40 but never seen

Spear
.. all data I got here is I believe way below max possible ones, except this:
R8 14-26

I should have screenshot of most interesting ones of those, but I don't have them organised so finding can take some time. Most are screenshotted as drops assigned to me or someone in my party. Ask for a specific one if really needed.
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Hope this helps any with the low req axe research



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Old Jun 03, 2010, 01:56 PM // 13:56   #9
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I kept a couple of scythes I thought had nice stats:

R5: 10-32 (Bronze Scythe)
R7: 10-35 (Duskblade Scythe)

Both are goldies btw (and of course inscribable).
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Old Jun 07, 2010, 01:43 PM // 13:43   #11
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Hope this helps any with the low req axe research
I have one with the same damage but lower req.
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Old Jun 07, 2010, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #12
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Old Jun 16, 2010, 01:45 PM // 13:45   #13
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Just got a q7 Hammer on Sjing Jea Island thing. 17-30 15^50 Q7 Runic Hammer.
Probably higher dmg possible as I think these stats are possible with Q6 aswell. Anyway, might help you out for a sorta guideline
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Old Jun 16, 2010, 01:53 PM // 13:53   #14
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About staffs, i've had recently a q8 11-21 drop, dont remeber the hrs tho
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 05:01 PM // 17:01   #15
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well, cause I´m playing pre as well, I can say something about req0 and low reqs:
sword
req0 8-10
req5 12-16 (minimum, prolly droppable with req4 as well)
req7 15-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 15-22
axe (stats I´ve seen) - even 7-19 ones exist here, but undroppable nowadays (was a bug - fixed within 24 hours)
req0 6-12
req1 6-14
req2 6-15
req3 6-17
req4 6-19
req7 6-28 (not droppable anymore)
req8 6-28
bow
req0 9-14
req8 15-28 (saw several of these, but dunno if still droppable)
hammer
req0 11-15
req5 15-25 (minimum, maybe droppable with req4)
req7 19-35 (not droppable anymore)
req8 19-35
shield
dito yawgmoth
and ofc the old req7 16 shields...
offhands
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and ofc the old req7 12 ene offhands (saw a 10/10 one here - OMG)
wands
req0 7-11
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22
staves
req0 7-11 15%HSR +7ene (never seen the combination, but seen req0 HSR15 ene+6 7-10 and req0 7-11 HSR13 ene+7)
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22

an interesting pic can be found here: (it´s german, so just klick the button "Waffen - meine 80% des Zaishentitels" and you´ll find the best ever weps, stats in english)
best weps ever - here
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Old Jun 17, 2010, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #16
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well, cause I´m playing pre as well, I can say something about req0 and low reqs:
Great, best presearing items collections will be the best source of info about best possible drops for the lower req's.

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axe (stats I´ve seen) - even 7-19 ones exist here, but undroppable nowadays (was a bug - fixed within 24 hours)
I'm 100% sure it's NOT a bug and it was NOT fixed. Axes can still drop with 7 minimum damage, even recently I have got a 7-21 (req.6) in post. They're just extreme rare in pre and it's absolutely normal that none have been reported to drop for quite a long time. How do you know about 24 hours? There have been quite a few of them 2-3 years ago.

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req8 15-28 (saw several of these, but dunno if still droppable)
- definately can't drop.

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wands
req0 7-11
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22
I've never seen a req7 11-22 WAND (only 2 staves), are you sure about this?
Also I'm sure a req.8 11-22 cannot drop anymore.
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staves
req0 7-11 15%HSR +7ene (never seen the combination, but seen req0 HSR15 ene+6 7-10 and req0 7-11 HSR13 ene+7)
req7 11-22 (not droppable anymore)
req8 11-22
15% HSR on a req.0 staff gets my must see a screenshot, sounds really unbelievable

as for the req8 11-22 staff, those cannot drop with HSR 20% anymore, and highest possible HSR on a req8 11-22 after the nerf hasn't yet been determined (highest I got was only 16%)

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an interesting pic can be found here: (it´s german, so just klick the button "Waffen - meine 80% des Zaishentitels" and you´ll find the best ever weps, stats in english)
best weps ever - here
cheers
Wow, customized q7 15^50 axe and hammer, and q7 +5ene sword custo on a monk.
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Old Jun 18, 2010, 08:13 AM // 08:13   #17
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15% HSR on a req.0 staff gets my must see a screenshot, sounds really unbelievable


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Ok about this i gotta ask, U used be able get in early 2005 those No req 10energy staves, with both inhers gold, wonder if anyone seen those with Good mods? ive seen some 10hct orso ones and crap dualmods, nothing intresting.

Also Yawgmoth which r7 staffs u've seen?
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Old Jun 18, 2010, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #18
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Great, best presearing items collections will be the best source of info about best possible drops for the lower req's.
axe (stats I´ve seen) - even 7-19 ones exist here, but undroppable nowadays (was a bug - fixed within 24 hours)
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I'm 100% sure it's NOT a bug and it was NOT fixed. Axes can still drop with 7 minimum damage, even recently I have got a 7-21 (req.6) in post. They're just extreme rare in pre and it's absolutely normal that none have been reported to drop for quite a long time. How do you know about 24 hours? There have been quite a few of them 2-3 years ago.
well, maybe the 7-... was just a bug in pre and always existed in post... dunno. But a very experienced pre-player said that these 7-19 axes just dropped for one day in pre: they just dropped that single day and never before and never since any of these dropped. that single day about 10-20 of these axes dropped (numbers differ a bit, none with 14^50 or 13^50 reported...), so I´m pretty sure it was a bug...


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I've never seen a req7 11-22 WAND (only 2 staves), are you sure about this?
sorry, not sure about this, just saw loads of req8 and guessed they´d drop in req7 as well, as the staves, with same DMG. But I´ve seen more than 2 Staves q7 max DMG.
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15% HSR on a req.0 staff gets my must see a screenshot, sounds really unbelievable
saw this one about 3months ago ingame in the early days of my pre character. Didn´t know it was rare back then. I regret not having taken a screenshot, but it definitely exists! (got screens of HSR 14% if you need... took these after I found out that they are rare -.-)

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as for the req8 11-22 staff, those cannot drop with HSR 20% anymore, and highest possible HSR on a req8 11-22 after the nerf hasn't yet been determined (highest I got was only 16%)
well, I saw some q8 HSR20% ene +10, but dunno if they dropped pre- or post-nerf...


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Wow, customized q7 15^50 axe and hammer, and q7 +5ene sword custo on a monk.
:-)
knew you´d like these screens, he´s my guildleader. if you change to that other character called "Extrem Abgeher" you´ll find screens of some of the best pre weps, all customized for that warrior (even a pre-max DMG pulling Longbow... ).
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Old Jun 19, 2010, 07:56 AM // 07:56   #19
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I had a gold R7 14-25 celestial longbow drop whilst farming vermin last night +15% dam, -10 armor. I hope this helps.
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just got a energy10 q5 blood idol as a drop (oldschool, blue, dropped by lvl 18 scale)
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