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Jenosavel · Dec 02, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Just so people know, this is Feral Lunge, not poison.

ancient_chozo · Dec 03, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by Jenosavel

Erm, Chozo you're right. I don't know where Valerius got that from, since you can't tame a Moa Bird except at level 3... How would it evolve into something else at level 3 if it's already at level 3? I suspect that was a typo, and he just switched around what he was meaning to say.

Well, in that case, then, I'd like to add that Striders don't always evolve into Moa Birds at level three. Right now, I have a level 18 Hearty Strider on my N/R.

FFF_WarRaven · Dec 03, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

yeah i've done a bit more playing around with it, you guys are right thanks for the info.

:::End Transmission:::

Jenosavel · Dec 03, 2005, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by ancient_chozo

Well, in that case, then, I'd like to add that Striders don't always evolve into Moa Birds at level three. Right now, I have a level 18 Hearty Strider on my N/R.

No, the Strider does evolve to Moa at level 3 regardless. It will, however, turn back into a Strider when it evolves. Thus, the only way to have a level 11+ Moa is to have your pet not evolve.

Level 1 - Strider
Level 3 - Moa Bird
Level 11 - Playful/Aggressive Strider
Level 15 - Hearty/Elder/Dire Strider

They're all the same pet.

Yamat · Dec 04, 2005, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Dralspire

(10) The second stage: Return to Gates of Kryta by means of map travel. Assign the attributes 0 beast mastery and 12 marksmanship. Remove all beast mastery spells except Charm Animal from your skill bar. Place your marksmanship spells in your skill bar.

(11) Leave Gates of Kryta for Scoundrel's Rise. Attack the Mergoyles with your bow and cast the marksmanship spell Hunter Shot as often as possible. Cast any other Marksmanship spells detailed above as often as possible after that.

(12) When your pet hits level 15, return to Gates of Kryta by means of map travel. Leave Gates of Kryta for Scoundrel's Rise. The name of your pet in the party window will read "Elder XXX" (with XXX being the type of pet you chose). Congratulations.

Ok, so I've got mine to L11 Aggressive... does it matter if the pet dies in the second stage to L15? Are you still trying to minimize deaths, or is it all about the fact the pet is doing hardly any damage (while you attemtpt to maximize your own)?

Great thread BTW... Kudos to all those who spent hours testing!

EDIT: ignore me... my pet never even came close to dying... my arrows were doing 120+ dmg per hit. One Elder Warthog FTW!!

Agrestis · Dec 04, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Hey, anyone know any definate addrenaline gain for ferousios strike?
Oh and the warthog does produce the attack effects(im pretty sure) i'll try and send a screenie of mine doing so.

Jenosavel · Dec 05, 2005, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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the adrenaline gain isn't huge; it work to a strike every 8 second or so, which is the equivalent of 16% gain in adrenaline if you were attacking the whole time at normal rates.

-Pet skills and use of pets V.1

Peewee · Dec 05, 2005, 01:22 PM // 13:22

[QUOTE=Valerius]- while Elders have more HP then Dires... Dires do more Dmg
...[/QUOTE

according to my sources elders do +3dmg, +90health
playful are -1dmg +30health
hearty are -2dmg +60health
aggresive, or whateve it is (never seen one) +1dmg -30 health
dire +2dmg -60 health

clearly elder trumps elders on both dmg and health. the evolution i think is playful, hearty, elder, or aggresive, dire, elder.

finally, dam!

Epinephrine · Dec 05, 2005, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Peewee

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Originally Posted by Valerius

- while Elders have more HP then Dires... Dires do more Dmg
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according to my sources elders do +3dmg, +90health
playful are -1dmg +30health
hearty are -2dmg +60health
aggresive, or whateve it is (never seen one) +1dmg -30 health
dire +2dmg -60 health

clearly elder trumps elders on both dmg and health. the evolution i think is playful, hearty, elder, or aggresive, dire, elder.

finally, dam!

This is all wrong. Your source is wrong. Elder has no bonus to damage and unmodified health. This has been tested a great deal.

CKaz · Dec 05, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

Evolution of animals happens thus even without the pet being tamed. If you did find a level 15 typeless Dune lizard it would not evolve according to everything we know thus far, it would simply remain typeless to level 20.

That's what I was looking for - so likely every Dune lizard I'd go after would have a type - even its final type. So rather than rearing a Dune Lizard find out what you got and keep heading to the tamer and heading back out until you get the one you do want - thanks!

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Originally Posted by Dralspire

To be honest, I am not aware of a level 15 lizard being available for charming at all.

Unless I've played one too many hours of GW all Dune Lizards are level 15.

Epinephrine · Dec 05, 2005, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by CKaz

That's what I was looking for - so likely every Dune lizard I'd go after would have a type - even its final type. So rather than rearing a Dune Lizard find out what you got and keep heading to the tamer and heading back out until you get the one you do want - thanks!

Unless I've played one too many hours of GW all Dune Lizards are level 15.

No, that's not it at all. Firstly, I have never seen a level 15 Dune Lizard in the wild - they are level 5, unless a patch changed that in the past week or so (haven't been to the desert in a few days). So you won't find a level 15 in the wild. You might be able to level one, by dragging hostile enemies over, using Otyugh's Cry, healing it carefully with Heal Area (you can't target them with heals, as they aren't "allies", even under Otyugh's) and eventually it would level up.

Most pets develop a type by the time they hit 11, and then settle into a final type at level 15. You can raise typeless pets, but it doesn't tend to happen with normal play. The "type" is NOT predetermined, it is determined by your playstyle.

Jenosavel · Dec 05, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I just tamed/trained a Dune Lizard two days ago, and they were all still sitting at level 5 in the wild then.

jibikao · Dec 05, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Agrestis

Hey, anyone know any definate addrenaline gain for ferousios strike?
Oh and the warthog does produce the attack effects(im pretty sure) i'll try and send a screenie of mine doing so.

The adrenline gain from Ferocious Strike is 1 I believe. I've tried a few times and I don't notice any difference with lvl 16 beast mastery, unless they've changed it?

I've been using Elder Warthog for a while now. I don't notice any attack effects. They don't really make noise when they attack, which I dislike. I do enjoy the uniqueness though. hehe

I just trained an Elder Strider. It was actually a Moa Bird but it turned into Strider. I wonder why they created two names for the same pet??

nine6nine · Dec 06, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

all this evoling sounds like pokemon and thanks now im going to underworld to cap a spider

jibikao · Dec 09, 2005, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Ok, I was doing pvp and I think Spider does posion now. I told him it's Feral Lunge but he said the spider does poison.

I really want to find out this answer. Can somebody please confirm for me? If Spider does poison, then I want to get one just for the little advantage.

I think all pets should have some sort of "special ability" like Spider. I know Spider is special since you can only get it in Underworld but if only Spider has special ability, then it will create IMBALANCE in Beast Master, which I thought A.Net doesn't want.

Hopefully they can either get rid of poison effect or add a special ability for each pet.

Savio · Dec 09, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

It's not poison. Read A guide to pets by Epinephrine and Jenosavel.

MaglorD · Dec 09, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Originally Posted by CKaz

That's what I was looking for - so likely every Dune lizard I'd go after would have a type - even its final type. So rather than rearing a Dune Lizard find out what you got and keep heading to the tamer and heading back out until you get the one you do want - thanks!

Unless I've played one too many hours of GW all Dune Lizards are level 15.

Umm no, dune lizards are level 5.

jibikao · Dec 09, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Savio

It's not poison. Read A guide to pets by Epinephrine and Jenosavel.

I've been using beast mastery for 5 months now and I "believed" that Spider does not poison but there are just so many people telling me Spider does poison. I don't have time to go to Underworld to charm a spider mainly because I am a loner. I can't solo Underworld with my pet. lol I died in 10s.

If Spider indeed does not poison, why do people say that? Many Rangers spam poison arrows and Feral Lunge. I told them that the "green smoke" graphic is from feral lunge but they claimed that it's not.

Ok, I am very tired of people spreading false rumors then. Have you tried a spider before? Does it poison or not? I just need some answers from those who do have spiders and know about beast mastery.

I remember I got into a fight once in PvP because another ranger used Spider and I used Warthog and his team won (random) and said "Spider owns Pig everyday". I told him that all the pets are the same except for evolution and damage type and he called me "Noob" for it. I was insulted of course. lol I prefer warthog over spider but if spider does has poison effect, then I may want to charm it one day.

Valerius · Dec 09, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Does it poison or not? I just need some answers from those who do have spiders and know about beast mastery.

Black Widow Spiders DO NOT poison... for the 100th time...

Dralspire · Dec 09, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Black Widow Spiders DO NOT poison... for the 101st time...

... and for effect