Curse

EF2NYD · Nov 20, 2005, 05:30 AM // 05:30

still collecting family swords angel?

Mercenary662 · Nov 20, 2005, 05:48 AM // 05:48

awesome guide, any chance for a "sequal" where you will put in different builds you have found to be most succesful?

BlackRecluse · Nov 21, 2005, 12:57 AM // 00:57

I'll help with this post...The build me and my group had was: 3 monks, 2 rangers, 1 mesmer, 1 necro and the lone warrior(me).

we killed everything fairly easily, the two rangers were trap, the monks were a combo of healing/protection, the mesmer was suicide ad the necro was spitefull. I was stance. worked flawlessly untill we got to the obsidian behemoths. since we had to ele and no nuker it took us a while to clear them, and was really boring..

the key to our success was our trappers, suicide mesmer and spiteful necro.

Wrath Of Dragons · Nov 21, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Well! brilliant piece of work. mods, might wanna make this one easy to get to

Melkor Pvp · Nov 21, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14

I led an UW-clearing adventure the other day. The only reason we lost was because we got really tired by the end.

here was our build:

Ranger with interrupts and barrage
Ranger with interrupts, traps, and incendiary arrows
Monk with prot/heal balance, plus holy viel (absolutely needed in Chaos planes)
Monk with prot/heal banace (same as above)
Necro with BIP, Prot spirit, and damage
Ele with Air skills, including thunderclap, which we used all the time. (a ranger had a lightning bow)
Warrior with warrior damage.

It was pretty effective. It just goes to show you that you don't need nukers to win. The Air Ele was extremely useful for the mass-interrupts/knockdowns - especially when you have millions of mindblades everywhere.

The two monks was all we *needed*, although it really could have been useful to have 3 in certian situations. I would have liked to have more damage too. I think if I were gonna re-do it I'd change the Air Ele to Fire.. maybe. The Air Ele "snipe" damage was nice, too :-p Nothing like picking off a running mindblade.

We cleared everything but the top of twin serpant's mountains and part of the Forgotten vale. The total loot was about 8 ectos plus a LOT of gold and gold items. The only annoying part was that we found a good 5 chests, and they all were purple items

Racthoh · Nov 21, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Very nice FAQ, this will prove a handy reference tool.

I believe that the information regarding the Vengeful Aatxe is incorrect. To the best of my knowledge, the only skill they use is Protector's Strike as I recall an incident in which I surrounded by many but managed to stay alive quite handily simply because all they did was attack.

Icharus Dread · Nov 22, 2005, 06:54 PM // 18:54

If there is real desire for it, I can combine the sections into a PDF (giving all credit to Katamari, of course!) for easier reference.

Let me know.

Dread

super dooper · Nov 26, 2005, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Dying Nightmares also use Blood Is Power. (noticed this when one spawned by some Coldfires we were fighting, and he started to BiP them, in turn killing himself..)

Hash Mama · Nov 29, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

I didnt find 4 horseman guide here, anybody bit them?
Here is our guide but unfortunatelly it was bfore Ao?e has been nerfed ,so now it can be a problem ,but its worth to read anyway
http://forum.lost-cape.net/viewtopic.php?t=70

Symeon · Nov 29, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Great work Katamari, a very good reference.

EF2NYD · Nov 30, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

Charged Blacknesses have Glimmering Mark as their elite, Chain Lightning is normal.

Lexar · Dec 04, 2005, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Is it true that sometimes Crystalline swords drop from the chests in UW (and that it's the only place in the PvE world where they drop)?

saphir · Dec 08, 2005, 09:19 AM // 09:19

mmm, very good guide. i had thought about writing a basic uw intro and quest guide to point new uw players to in my pugs. but then i figured would they bother to take the time to read it? lol

anyway, i cleared uw with a group back in june or so before many of the current skill and mob changes. we did it w/ a group of 3 monks (our tank was a monk running a prototype solo monk built specifically for clearing uw - mo/r so he could cycle spellbreaker endlessly) and 5 fire nukers. we killed damn fast =) ... it was the best 4 1/2 hours of GW i ever played lol.

since that time i've led many pugs thru the various uw quests. here's some of my info gleaned during that time:

a few days ago I saw my first crystalline sword drop in UW. it popped from the chest upon the completion of Wrathful spirits. we were in a spider capping pug, so proceeded directly to the quest after the chamber, and I opened the chest to see to my amazement a purple crystalline pop out for the other monk. I was so shocked I almost forgot to take a screenshot lol. I have also heard people claiming crystallines drop from Obsidian behemoths, but I don't know if it's an unsubstantiated rumor. I certainly have seen only vast numbers of jawbones from those mobs. I have also heard crystallines drop in FOW, but I've never seen one.

The completion of UW, at least as of june, yields no significant rewards. No doors will open for you, no secret treasure trove of ecto, no secret armor crafter, no grateful or wrathful Gwen will visit you.

Gold items will drop off any creature, but I believe the best ones usually drop from the terrorwebs. Although I did get a gold stormbow from a Coldfire once before anet added the chests. I believe the dreamriders will also drop ecto.

For the 4 Horsemen quest, as far as I remember, the horsemen do not spawn mindblades once they die. However, the dreamrider will spawn mindblades, and that combined with the terrorwebs makes the task nigh impossible enough. Their charge is relentless, rather like a tsunami and we were barely able to destroy them with 5 eles and 2 monks. I suggest if anyone intends to clear UW to start with this monument's subquest first, as if you complete this quest the rest of UW is easy.

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Here's some additional information about the labyrinth reaper quests:

Vengeful aatxes hit hardest when you run from them, using protector's strike and hitting for about 400hp. If you stand your ground however, they only tickle you... still not pleasant, but better than being dead in 2 hits.

Vengeful aatxes will not die even if they are aggro'd, even if their keeper is killed. the best way to lose aggro is to get the party away from the bulls, and have the aggro'd target die. I've noticed that the vengefuls have a very large aggro range and memory as one time we had to pull all 3 off the reaper and the target had to take them down the corridor and out of the radar circle for them to forget about the reaper when the target had died. Any closer and they would just run back to beat up on the reaper.

This is the easiest order I've found to complete the basic UW quests:

1. clear the chamber
1a. clear bulls and graspers before ice wastes (smites) area (optional but will make unwanted slightly easier). clear smites also if desired.
2. take monuments, then clear the monument in the lost vale
3. take and complete wrathful spirits
4. teleport back and take escort souls, teleport to lost vale reaper and kill mindblades from the back. escort souls to mayor and complete quest. then clear mindblades at lost soul area (forgetting this part can make unwanted slightly more difficult).
5. take unwanted guests and teleport to lost vale reaper. kill keeper from rear, then pull keeper down center corridor and kill it w/ ranged nukes. if vengefuls are in the way, tank may have to aggro while nukers nuke keeper, while someone teleports party away once keeper is dead. go down right side and kill keeper at uw spawn pt. kill keeper on the path to the smites area, kill keeper beyond that across the bridge. double back and kill keeper in last corridor and get quest xp.
6. clear smites (ice wastes) if not done in step 1a.

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Quests in order of difficulty from hardest to easiest:

4 Horsemen
Ice King
Restore Monuments (chaos planes is most difficult monument if not cleared before taking quest)
Terrorweb Queen
Demon Assasin/Slayer
Unwanted Guests (very easy if you know what you're doing, but very hard if in a pug who believes they can easily take out the vengefuls)
Imprisoned Spirits
Clear the Chamber
Escort Souls, Wrathful Spirits

of course difficulty will vary depending on the group, with any group not carrying some sort of protection finding anything w/ massive spike damage very difficult.
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skills: monks should definitely always bring prot spirit. when fighting mindblades, a monk carrying heal party is always helpful as is spellbreaker if aggro can be managed correctly. in a party of fairly good players, i've been the only primary monk left with no battery, and have kept parties fighting mobs of mindblades alive. just know to move around if a mindblade starts interrupting you to lose aggro, and as a monk stay in the very back of the party, preferably out of range of most mindblades.

Clamatius · Dec 09, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

FWIW, Mindblade Spectres seem to also pack Cry of Frustration. Saw them do it several times the other night when we offed a few Horsemen.

Kronos_GW · Dec 10, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17

i just lead a group into UW, for full details see the 12/9 thread in the tyrian explorer league thread, end result we got through vale moutain 1/2 chaos planes and bone pits. however we had 1 ecto and 1 ruby the enitre 4 hours..lame!!

chaos998 · Dec 30, 2005, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Just Wondering....Thanx

crazeelilgirlykid · Dec 30, 2005, 05:02 AM // 05:02

apparantly some people think that Gwen may be in Chapter Two.

Manic Smile · Dec 30, 2005, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katamari

V. Monster Drops & Phantom Chests

Here is a list of monsters who drop the "premium" goods from my observations:

Banished Dream Rider

Ghostly Staves

8 ecto in our recent...where the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO are the terror shileds run...

btw to the guy above me somewhere yes they do have that spell that makes you go #$%%

Katamari · Dec 30, 2005, 12:20 PM // 12:20

Thanks for the information about Cry of Frustration. I suspected that the skill was available to them, but for some odd reason, I didn't see a single one use it at the time I was collecting data.

In any case, if all goes according to plan, I should be able to include some radar screenshots to help outline some of the quests. But before that, I'd need to find someone to help me assemble those screenshots in photoshop since I'm quite unfamiliar with the program.

agent of ascalon · Jan 02, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

thank you my friend, i just learned somthin new