Curse

Šiljo · Dec 12, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

So basically, you are in 1 outpost changing districts?

MercenaryKnight · Dec 12, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

That is the basic part of it, it's just finding the correct town and starting district/ ending districts to trick the server and giving you your instant 3 minutes.

Once you find the right one it always gives instant 3 minutes and you can go back and do it over and over till you care to stop. Most likely when you log off it may not work, or it generally doesn't work the next day in same town.

By the way, a.net has stated that any macro or bot which can be used without human interaction is against eula. This involves a drunkard bot and anything else where you can go afk and have it automate everything for you. So you can be banned for a drunkard bot. The likeliness is probably very small and hard to detect (unless it goes for 10+ hours straight). But I would still rather do this or another method in speeding up the drunkard minutes than risk a ban.

Darcryed · Dec 13, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

I got a question : let's say you reach level 5 and get your three minutes using that method or the whole guild hall or window thing, are you at level 2 ? or you really gotta start all over again ?

Because if this is the case, I prefer standing in my guild hall and chat while I drink every three minutes, rather than wasting a lot of booze trying to find the right outpost and losing 200 gp everytime I zone.

MercenaryKnight · Dec 13, 2008, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Once you get your 3 minutes the drunkard way hits 0 so you have to drink back to 5. The reason is most people who max the title don't want to spend 10,000 minutes afk clicking alcohols nonstop.

So they stockpile on level 5 alcohols, use one of the methods and waste a few levels of drunkenness to achieve the title in like 1/4th the time. I remember one day I went up like 800-1000 minutes in like an hour.

Ajantis · Dec 13, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

been trying for a few days now.. still haven't found a town that gives +3 instantly. Guess just clicking them away is faster than finding one

Darcryed · Dec 13, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Ok thanks, I guess I will have to save more than 1M then.

How much time does it usually take you to find a working outpost ?

MercenaryKnight · Dec 13, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

I haven't done it in a while, but back when I had done it it generally took less than 5-10 minutes. I generally tried stuff like gunnar's hold (different starting and ending districts), house zu heltzer, zin ku corridor, thunderhead keep.

I try to find random towns which result in hardly any people so that if it does work the zoning goes quicker because there isn't that many people to load.

I will attempt to try it some more, just been sick lately and haven't been able to play much from all my finals.

So in my opinion, try out of the way towns that people generally don't visit or hang out in. You could try serenity temple for prophecies, maybe one of the realm of torment areas (the challenge mission or the town next to it, forgot name). Canthan can try maybe some kurzick areas or whatever you feel like trying.

Not that there's a higher chance of them working, but if they work then it'll be quicker to do the zoning. If out of the way towns don't work then work on perhaps different mission towns.

Always try a lot of possibilities for each town. america-europe america-asia america-int etc. Then repeat for like internationa-america/-europe/-asia. For me when I had started I believed I had luck going from america-europe.

Riot Narita · Dec 13, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

So they stockpile on level 5 alcohols, use one of the methods and waste a few levels of drunkenness to achieve the title in like 1/4th the time.

1/4? More like 1/12th or 1/15th.

In a good spot I would be getting 12 - 15 points per minute. (a fast loading zone, and my UI re-arranged specifically to minimise mouse movement and speed up rezoning)

At that rate you'd go from zero to max title in less than 14 hours... Instead of 167 hours... now you understand why people are prepared to "waste" a couple of levels?!

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Originally Posted by ANet

Fixed a bug that caused drunk effects to fade after zoning

That's what it said in the latest update notes... but what does it mean, exactly? Is it just a visual thing (I would never have noticed, I turned off post-processing so I could be drunk during regular play)? Or did they fix this whole "instant 3-minutes" method? Or what?

MercenaryKnight · Dec 14, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Yeah I got lazy and don't actually want to do the math. I have a feeling the bug is that if you have post processing effects on and you zone while drunk. The next time you drop a level the effect re-appears. My guess would be that now even when you zone before you drop a drunk level it still stays up.

It says drunk effects, my bet would be it's just the post processing effects. For a.net saying they want to "reduce grind and what not" I think it'd be kinda the opposite if they did indeed fix the 3 minute drunkard in an instant thing.

D A R K S O I F O N · Apr 08, 2009, 12:03 AM // 00:03

where about can u get the highest level of drinks in this game and for wat cost?

AtomicMew · Apr 26, 2009, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno

which shows why your dumb. drunk bot is allowed by the anet rules and guidelines.

nice joke

That's actually false. Here's gaile's response.

In my opinion, botting does not become more palatable because there are fewer rewards in comparison to other bot uses. It's right, or it's wrong, and I feel it's wrong. But what I feel, as a gamer, isn't important. You ask if someone could be banned for the use of such a program. The answer is yes. That person could be actioned. The Drunkard bot is not as pernicious a botting for gold, but it's still a block-able offense. How you handle that on a guild level is entirely up to you. There's no guarantee that the person will be caught and punished. I would even go so far as to say that it is not a high priority to catch such a person. However, there's no guarantee that he will not be banned, and should a ban be put in place, there would be no legitimate appeal that would override it.
I'm awfully sorry if that sounds harsh or unreasonable. Hopefully the changes to the titles and the raising of other types makes it less likely that someone will venture down the bot path in the future, but I'm more than willing to hear your recommendations on this matter. --Gaile 06:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

ightgg · Apr 27, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by traversc

In my opinion, botting does not become more palatable because there are fewer rewards in comparison to other bot uses. It's right, or it's wrong, and I feel it's wrong. But what I feel, as a gamer, isn't important.

'nough said.

-Rit <3

Snograt · Apr 28, 2009, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Thanks for finding that quote, traversc - I've been looking for that for ages

Shayne Hawke · Apr 30, 2009, 11:24 AM // 11:24

The issue over whether this should/could be botted or not would become pretty trivial if they just changed the drunk consumption and point gain to be similar to Sweet Tooth and Party Animal, but that's another issue.

It seems like your system for gaining drunk minutes involves you moving from one regional district to another. How would this be any different from, say, starting in an Asian-based district and warping back and forth to a European-based guild hall?

MercenaryKnight · Apr 30, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

The issue over whether this should/could be botted or not would become pretty trivial if they just changed the drunk consumption and point gain to be similar to Sweet Tooth and Party Animal, but that's another issue.

It seems like your system for gaining drunk minutes involves you moving from one regional district to another. How would this be any different from, say, starting in an Asian-based district and warping back and forth to a European-based guild hall?

Because for some people guild halls don't work and not everyone has guild halls. Also, instead of having a 10second window in most guildhalls before the regional change. When I have used this before it's a 100% open window when you find one that works.