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Div · Nov 27, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Good program, but I find it awkward it puts pd in 3rd.

A player is better off simply going to the thread (at least for GvGs) and looking at Asp or my predictions, and going with those. The things this program takes into account doesn't exactly reflect a lot of important changes, for example roster changes with players not being able to play, smurfs, guild remakes, how much practice they had this past month, how well they're doing this month against other top guilds, etc.

Plus if you didn't care, just pick the top 8 ranked guilds every time.

zwei2stein · Nov 28, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Good program, but I find it awkward it puts pd in 3rd.

A player is better off simply going to the thread (at least for GvGs) and looking at Asp or my predictions, and going with those. The things this program takes into account doesn't exactly reflect a lot of important changes, for example roster changes with players not being able to play, smurfs, guild remakes, how much practice they had this past month, how well they're doing this month against other top guilds, etc.

Plus if you didn't care, just pick the top 8 ranked guilds every time.

Yes, those are limitations and trade offs for "lazy" usage.

For future versions I plan to take into account amount of practice guild had (Number of qualifier points should reflect that nicely) as well as Guild ladder fluctuations (total rating change in past month?) to rate performance gains/losses thanks to guild changing.

Maybe we can cooperate? My app could, for example, download predictions of someone competent and vote according to them. That allows it to be "XMP for lazy" while also giving quality results.

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Hey, it appears you've added the options 1v1 and GvG

Yeah, debugging makes you add user-friendliness out of desperation

Massive Impulsa · Nov 28, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

Ehm, lol as i am such a noob i didnt really understand a shit of this

- But as other said it would be GREAT if u could your last results (intersested in HvH:P) But ye nice program

Navaros · Nov 28, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

A player is better off simply going to the thread (at least for GvGs) and looking at Asp or my predictions, and going with those.

That is made hard and a pain in the butt to do because everyone keeps listing their predictions by guild tags instead of guild names, and the guild tags are not listed in the XTH website page.

Fril Estelin · Nov 28, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by Navaros

That is made hard and a pain in the butt to do because everyone keeps listing their predictions by guild tags instead of guild names, and the guild tags are not listed in the XTH website page.

You can find them easily on the ladder.guildwars.com website. Use the search tool.

Div · Nov 29, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Maybe we can cooperate? My app could, for example, download predictions of someone competent and vote according to them. That allows it to be "XMP for lazy" while also giving quality results.

If you can get people that'll give good predictions to you (Mitch and Asp generally make pretty good predictions based off "insider information," as do some others) as one of the weighing factors, it could prove interesting. Maybe give your computerized results a weight of 50% and then weigh the user-predictions another 50% to come up with a final list. Or better yet, the user can choose one of the three outputs: computerized results, user-predictions, or a weighted average of both.

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Originally Posted by Navaros

That is made hard and a pain in the butt to do because everyone keeps listing their predictions by guild tags instead of guild names, and the guild tags are not listed in the XTH website page.

That's the tradeoff a lazy person has to make, between more accurate predictions and computerized predictions. If the maker of this program puts some extra additions in the program and can get help with it, it'll benefit the lazy people even more.

Fril Estelin · Nov 29, 2008, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Or better yet, the user can choose one of the three outputs: computerized results, user-predictions, or a weighted average of both.

It's also an idea I wanted to mention to zwei2stein.

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That's the tradeoff a lazy person has to make, between more accurate predictions and computerized predictions. If the maker of this program puts some extra additions in the program and can get help with it, it'll benefit the lazy people even more.

What would be very cool is that the predictions from "knowledgeable" people (indeed there seems to be a lot of insider knowledge which prevents us from knowing what's really going on...) that you can find on the monthly GvG/1v1 threads would be collated automatically (instead of doing it by hand like now). But I have the feeling you have to define who can be trusted for giving predictions, because I think I've seen people trolling, or even bumping their reputation by putting themselves forward (not that it really matters). And you have the additional problem of 1v1 character name, I wish we could solve this one.

zwei2stein · Nov 30, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

It's also an idea I wanted to mention

Yes, I already thought about it. I have GUI in mind where you simply controll ratio of several sources by couple of sliders which also gives you live previes of what would be voted for.

Bobulation · Dec 11, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Is there a way to make it predict for 8 accounts without having to switch the info every time?

Fril Estelin · Dec 11, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Bobulation

Is there a way to make it predict for 8 accounts without having to switch the info every time?

Yes, copy the file "predictor.cmd" in the same folder (or better, in a place where you store your GW stuff, but then you have to add at the beginning of the file a "cd Folder_Where_The_XTH_Predictor_IS" command) and:

1) copy the last line (starting with "java -cp") 8 times;

2) change for each line the "%1 %2 %3 %4" parameters to the information of each of your 8 accounts, respectively: "email password number" (you can add a fourth parameter "GvG" or "1v1" if you only want to vote for one or the other).

P.S.: 8 accounts!?!?!?!!!!

MrGuildBoi · Dec 12, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

What does this mean?

http://tinypaste.com/22bfc

Chocobo1 · Dec 12, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Yeap gettin same error.

Bobulation · Dec 12, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Yes, copy the file "predictor.cmd" in the same folder (or better, in a place where you store your GW stuff, but then you have to add at the beginning of the file a "cd Folder_Where_The_XTH_Predictor_IS" command) and:

1) copy the last line (starting with "java -cp") 8 times;

2) change for each line the "%1 %2 %3 %4" parameters to the information of each of your 8 accounts, respectively: "email password number" (you can add a fourth parameter "GvG" or "1v1" if you only want to vote for one or the other).

P.S.: 8 accounts!?!?!?!!!!

Thanks, and yeah, 8 accounts, cuz im pro and got 6 accounts at black friday for 5 dollars each

One more question, i got this working on one computer, must have been from some other time, but on my main computer (its Vista x64), the .cmd opens and closes really quick. Anyone know how to fix that?

Fril Estelin · Dec 12, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Bobulation

One more question, i got this working on one computer, must have been from some other time, but on my main computer (its Vista x64), the .cmd opens and closes really quick. Anyone know how to fix that?

Open a command prompt in the folder where the .cmd file is (Start > Run > type "cmd" and then "cd Folder_where_.cmd_is"), then type predictor.cmd and see what is displayed.

And about the error, I wonder if the fact that the december 1v1 page doesn't exist maybe the code.

zwei2stein · Dec 12, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi

What does this mean?

http://tinypaste.com/22bfc

Majority of 1v1ers who are qualified did do have any past results and therte was error in handlling of this.

It is fixed in new version (ETA couple of minutes.)

Edit:

here it is: http://gw.zweistein.cz/RewardPointsPredictor_0.1.2.zip

Evil Neato · Dec 12, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

You doing anything about HB players who basically change their names monthly? lol

BabyJ · Dec 13, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by Bobulation

One more question, i got this working on one computer, must have been from some other time, but on my main computer (its Vista x64), the .cmd opens and closes really quick. Anyone know how to fix that?

To get this to work with vista just go to where ever you extracted the folder to and open the folder to where the list of files are. Hold down the shift key and right click anywhere in the folder and choose "open command window here" and the cmd window should open then you can type in predictor email password and user id.

It took me a little while and a little searching to figure this out myself. Vista just has to do everything bass ackwards.

baltazar knight · Dec 17, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Very Nice Z it finally worked after 50 min trying to use it.

Let's hope i get more then 80 prediction pts hehe

Bobulation · Dec 17, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26

More questions wewt...

' java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

I have java installed though

kuramoto · Dec 18, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

@Bobulation:
Start > Run > "sysdm.cpl" > Advanced tab > Environment Variables button

The bottom half of the window that pops up is labeled "System variables". Find the variable "PATH" and edit it (Edit button at the bottom). You will need to add the path to your Java executable (java.exe) at the end of the variable "PATH" so Windows knows where to find it (the installer doesn't do this automatically). First, add a semicolon to the end of whatever is already there (different entries are separated by semicolons). Then, add the appropriate path. For example, if you installed Java to "C:\Program Files\Java" (default location?), you need to add "C:\Program Files\Java\bin" after the semicolon. You'll have to logoff/restart (don't remember off the top of my head) to make Windows load the new settings.