Curse

Adeira Tasharo · Feb 16, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

I must admit, that the research you have done is daunting. I'm sure I wouldn't have figured it all out. I think I follow the idea, but will probably not make too much use of the tactic (I accumulated about 40-50 minutes of drunkeness reading the whole thread and another ?? while composing this post). One thing that seems to me that the initial post might benefit from, edit-wise, would be a little clearer explanation of the purpose of the windows.

What I understand of it goes something like this:
- Alcohol gets you drunk.
- Different alcohols get you more or less drunk. (Spiked Eggnog gets you really wasted, Firewater gets you well on your way, the rest need a couple hits to get you going.)

-- In something resembling English: The experience of going from being totally wrecked to being stone sober counts for something... 3 minutes of drunkeness. Actually, going from totally wrecked to solidly drunk is worth 3 minutes and the solidly drunk to stone sober part you get to feel warm and fuzzy with no additional credit.
-- Once you are totally wrecked, additional drinking just causes liver damage, but no additional credit.

- If you drink and play (don't play a Survivor!) you will earn your title... eventually. (10000 minutes = just under 7 days straight (yes, 24 hours a day, straight))

- If you don't have the patience, or can't play while you're totally wrecked (err, while your character is totally wrecked), you can make use of an "exploit" to speed the process. This process takes advantage of the sobering effect of travelling from one place to another. You don't have to spend the time drunk, you just need to have been drunk enough to have been drunk for that amount of time. This means that being drunk and travelling (no driving!) can reduce the amount of time spent sobering up, so as to be able to drink some more, sooner.

-- Think of the "time" it takes your character to get from A to B. To you, as the outside observer, it took no time to get from A to B. To your character, it took (potentially) 3-5 "minutes". Given that, a "window" is an opportunity to cause this gap between timelines.
-- This "window" is only available at certain times (perhaps within a minute) seemingly based on a number of potential factors.
-- A "permanent window" is available at any (or virtually any) time. A "permanent window" will allow you to travel back and forth drinking and sobering at a greatly accelerated pace. Basically, at a pace limited only by your character's ability to drink and travel, with no delay from your timeframe.

In summary, the purpose to finding and using the windows, ideally permanent ones, is to expedite the process of becoming an Incorrigible Ale-Hound. If you are content to proceed in the more conventional approach (or can't follow how these windows work)... the advice seems to be basic:
-- Don't drink more than gets you wrecked or you waste your alcohol.
-- If you want to get the best bang for your buck, you may want to drink or at least, start with, Spiked Eggnog or Firewater, solely because these will get you past the warm fuzzy part and right into solid drunkenness, even get you totally wrecked.

Please feel free to use any or all of this, restated or referenced or quoted, as it can be used to help clarify the pocess of getting muddled.

**edited to state the realization that most of this is explained pretty well at the beginning... but at the beginning I didn't understand it. I feel enlightened... and a little dumb*

Guildmaster Cain · Feb 16, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55

I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet, but:

Theoretically you can use an autoclick-program to get the drunk title. Though this would imply that you can't actually PLAY GW during that time.

Even with my limited Visual Basic skillz, I think I could make a program that automatically doubleclicks the mouse every minute. You can go afk when you see the autoclick is working. On the web, there are already some autoclick programs available. BUT personally I do not trust other programs, especially when using at the same time as a GW-account. Probably there is nothing to be afraid of, since these programs should be totally unlinked to GW in any way. It is not considered hacking, since they do not interfer with the the programming of GW. It might be in the same line with botting. But if you would use this, Anet could never find out you are using a autoclickprogram. Unless they hacked into YOUR computer, in which case, you should sue them.

If I was to aspire the Drunken title, I would probably do this. But I rather drink in real life.

Don't drink and drive Rollerbeetles!

Sample Attack · Feb 16, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

I'm @ work , and reading this , Nice Guide btw.
If someone plz correct me If I'm wrong.
Lets just say window btween Iron mine > isles (Guild Hall) 45 min.

I zone into Iron mine , Drink spikedegg <<< 3 min?
zone to Isles ( Guild hall) Drink Spiked Egg <<< 3 min?
Zone back to Iron mine Drink Spiked Egg <<< 3 min?

So by the time, after third run I should get 9 min? or keep zoning till I get 9 min?
Repeat until 45 min up?

Sample Attack · Feb 16, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

And addition , Title Points
Sweet Tooth 1,000
Connoisseur of Confectionaries
(Max Level) 10,000

Do they work the same as Drunken? anybody test it and confirm?

Gli · Feb 17, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

I've been boozing up with these 2 places. and I'm getting results that don't seem to fit the system explained here. (Yesterday, so it may be thanks to a recent update.)

Maguuma Stade -> Uncharted Isle, and back.
Basalt Grotto -> Uncharted Isle, and back.

Drinking a spiked eggnog before zoning either way, I'm getting the full 3 minutes 4 out of 5 times. If I don't get 3, I get 2, never any less. When I get 2, I drink 2 hunter's ale to max out again and zone again. When this happens I always get the full 3 minutes. This gives me 5 or 6 minutes for every round trip, many minutes on end.

However, sometimes it just stops working. Not in the sense of a window in a 60 second cycle, but it stops completely for a long while.

Lanfear of DE · Feb 18, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

have you tested the Idle of Weeping GH yet?

noblepaladin · Feb 18, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sample Attack

And addition , Title Points
Sweet Tooth 1,000
Connoisseur of Confectionaries
(Max Level) 10,000

Do they work the same as Drunken? anybody test it and confirm?

There is no need to wait for the sweets titles. Just keep clicking as fast as you can. The hard part is obtaining 2 million gold worth of sweets.

Rabbit28 · Feb 18, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58

Brilliant guide, worked great. Some of the combos you showed did not work for me so i experiemented a little.
my best results
Marhan's Grotto -----> Wizard Isle (50+ sec window, closed parts are hardly noticeable)

I also got great results by using an eggnog after zoning to the GH so I would get 4 min/round trip. I ended up using all my alcohol in less than half an hour, so i really need more ><

<------pm me if you have some: 1 min: 100g each 3 min: 300g each

Benoit Flageol · Feb 18, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

I really understand nothing...

Benoit Flageol · Feb 18, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

What is a "Window"

onerabbit · Feb 19, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benoit Flageol

What is a "Window"

Yes, i was confused at this to..

go to X town, take one Spiked Eggnog...Travel to your G/H, you should have made an extra 3 mins, if you have, the window is there..if not, try a different town.

Rabbit28 · Feb 19, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

A "window" is a period of time in a town where traveling to and from your guild hall will add drunkard minutes on to your title. If it doesnt not, that window is over and you have to wait for it to come again. Your best bet, though, is to find a town/guild hall combination that has a permanent "window" so that you can constantly rack up drunkard minutes. Hopefully that cleared some questions up.

revelation · Feb 19, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Thanks a lot Dragou, you helped me max my title a lot faster, would have to drink 5000 min slowly without you :P

Here's a screenie

merciless · Feb 19, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

So, the term "Window" is just how long it takes for the trick to ware out, or is it describing the actual title bar for the drunkard title? Or, is it how long it takes to load the map.

"For me, Ember Light Camp and Hells Precipice have a 5-10 second window"

This was quoted by a previous person. I would have interpreted this as how long it takes to load the actual map. Am I right, or not? Somebody help me out, please!

Fairwell · Feb 19, 2007, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Really nice guide, congrats for the title.

I have considered to get some max titles for my monk and i thought 167hours spending drunk is just crazy. I can't go farming or play PvP in the meantime.

I have found your article by accident and i like the idea getting a max title like that in (with testing etc) perhaps 15hours.

Of course everyone has to find his own zoning place etc, but what i am also very interested in is the thing, how much platinum did you spent on your max drunkard title? If you need one Spiked Eggnog for 3min drunkard title, so you need about 3333 Spiked Eggnogs for the title? How much money do you have to calculate for the max title?

revelation · Feb 19, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

For those that want to get title slowly,just go study and click 2-3 beers every few min... I got half of it that way, it's really not a problem

thegrump · Feb 19, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Read your guide, rounded up 330 Spiked Eggnogs and followed your directions.
Around 3-4 hours later I had a level 1 Drunkard Monk.
Working with a 40-45 sec window I was averaging 12 Drunkard minutes to 1 true minute.

Good times.

drego_rayin · Feb 19, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by merciless

So, the term "Window" is just how long it takes for the trick to ware out, or is it describing the actual title bar for the drunkard title? Or, is it how long it takes to load the map.

"For me, Ember Light Camp and Hells Precipice have a 5-10 second window"

This was quoted by a previous person. I would have interpreted this as how long it takes to load the actual map. Am I right, or not? Somebody help me out, please!

A "window" is the time that you can use within a minute that the drunk title actually counts for. For instance, when most people use alcohol they sit down in a town and let the levels go normally. 1 level = 1 minute drunk/real time. What the games does is check during this "window" to see your current level and if it has changed, higher or lower and gives you points accordingly. What this guide is showing how to "use" this window to your advantage. Basically what you do is "trick" the game into thinking you actually went through 1 minute of real time, when in reality you were only level 5 drunk for 3 secs. During this window the game adds minutes if the level of drunkenness changes.

Since when you go from Town -> Guild Hall(or explorable) the level of drunkenness goes down (and you are in the window) the game will give you the allotted "minutes" you deserve. Here is an in-game example:

I am currently in Droknar's Forge. I drink until I am level 5. I sit down and wait 3 minutes. I have gained 3 minutes of drunkenness since I went from level 5 to level 2.

Now to speed this up, I read this forum and find out when the window is at Droknar's Forge and how large the "window" is. I drink to level 5 prior to the "window," once the "window" opens, 00::0:15** (15 secs after the minute) I warp to my guild hall (Isle of Meditation). Since when I warped I lost 1 level, I gained 1 minute of drunkenness. The reason is cause the game noticed I lost 1 level during this "window". Now if I drink again back to level 5 (using a alcohol) and then warp back to Droknar's Forge, I lose all levels of drunkenness and gain 3 more "minutes" of drunkenness time because once again the game notices that I lost levels during the "window." Since the "window" is so large, I might be able to repeat this process many times until the "window" shuts(00::00:00 or 00::01:00 whichever you prefer).

In essence, this guide speeds up the process dramatically. I have tested his theories and it works very well. I haven't had time to achieve the first tier yet, but it speeds up the process.

I hope this helps everyone who were having problems understanding the concept of this guide and what a "window" is.

**Note:Sorry about the confusing time notice. I do movie production so I'm used to the time stamps looking like this "hour::minute:seconds::mili-seconds"

-NoXy- · Feb 20, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

cool, that thing worked for me.
took a couple test zoning from my GH and a few isolated towns to find the one :
Thunderhead Keep

so :
drink a spiked eggnog + Imperial Isle -> THK gives me 3 min
drink a spiked eggnog + THK -> Imperial Isle gives me 3 min

which meant it took a few minutes only to get 1000 drunkard minutes cause i was getting this result every single time i zoned. not even needed to watch the counter

actualy the "window" was 55 seconds, not 60 so it would miss 1 drunkard minute from time to time if i didnt pay attention.
ty for the guide

merciless · Feb 20, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by -NoXy-

cool, that thing worked for me.
took a couple test zoning from my GH and a few isolated towns to find the one :
Thunderhead Keep

so :
drink a spiked eggnog + Imperial Isle -> THK gives me 3 min
drink a spiked eggnog + THK -> Imperial Isle gives me 3 min

which meant it took a few minutes only to get 1000 drunkard minutes cause i was getting this result every single time i zoned. not even needed to watch the counter

actualy the "window" was 55 seconds, not 60 so it would miss 1 drunkard minute from time to time if i didnt pay attention.
ty for the guide

Does this mean that I do not have to wait a certain amount of time before zoning to the guildhall after using an eggnog? So, I can just use one eggnog and then zone to the guild hall right away and I should gain 3 minutes if I have got a good outpost? So, yeah... I'm just wondering if I have to wait a certain numbers of seconds before I zone to guildhall/outpost after I have taken the eggnog for this to work.

EX.
step 1 - zone to outpost
step 2 - use eggnog
step 3 - wait a certain number of seconds (I do not know how long to wait)
step 4 - zone to guildhall and get 3 minutes

So, is there a step 3 in there? Do I skip step 3?

P.S. I have tried this yesterday from Nolani to Imperial guild hall. What happens is that when I use an eggnog in Nolani and then zone to guildhall I get 0 minutes added to title. But, when I zone back to Nolani without using any alcohol, I get 1 minutes added to title. What am I doing wrong; I thought it should be 3 minutes gained after I zone to the guildhall.

Ty for help. And, I thank you for posting this guide.