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distilledwill · Apr 06, 2009, 11:37 AM // 11:37

How many times will I have to death level the charr to lvl20 and then kill them to reach the desired level at which I can start doing quests?

Anon-e-mouse · Apr 06, 2009, 02:20 PM // 14:20

There is no hard/fast number of deaths required.. Basically if you have left the quests until the end, you need to death level until you get to lvl 19 and about 35% (ish).

Because there is no way to predict how your DL setups will go (ie, which Charr you will find when you go into the northlands), I can only suggest averages, and even these change depending on how you do your death leveling.

The lazy method (setup before going to sleep, harvesting the top group, going to work, harvest the rest upon return), will average you anywhere from 7-12% of your level. Doing the quicker method (setup, wait until lead group gets to your level -1, harvest, rinse & repeat), will average you about 3-7% of your level, but is quicker, but you have to be nearby to monitor the charr's progress.

Depending on when you start DL'ing (I started my current LDoA attempt at lvl 14), you can pretty much say about 8-12 sessions per level (less @ lower levels, more @ higher ones). My actual LDoA toon, ended up with about 175,000 deaths at the end (more now cos it's helping my 2nd LDoA toon), but then I'm doing the lazy method, so I will 'earn' more deaths.

D A R K S O I F O N · Apr 07, 2009, 11:43 PM // 23:43

im consedering on creating a warrior for ldoa title. Now if i was to create her, what do i need to do to get this title. I know little about this death leveling but what secound profession do i need to achieve this. Is it similar to reaching the curvivor title which you cannot die once or can u die in pre searing? Are there players in pre searing that help you power-level?

Savio · Apr 08, 2009, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by D A R K S O I F O N

im consedering on creating a warrior for ldoa title. Now if i was to create her, what do i need to do to get this title. I know little about this death leveling but what secound profession do i need to achieve this. Is it similar to reaching the curvivor title which you cannot die once or can u die in pre searing? Are there players in pre searing that help you power-level?

Why are you asking about how to get the LDoA title when the whole thread is about how to get the LDoA title?

Anon-e-mouse · Apr 08, 2009, 09:20 AM // 09:20

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Originally Posted by D A R K S O I F O N

im consedering on creating a warrior for ldoa title. Now if i was to create her, what do i need to do to get this title. I know little about this death leveling but what secound profession do i need to achieve this. Is it similar to reaching the curvivor title which you cannot die once or can u die in pre searing? Are there players in pre searing that help you power-level?

Cos I'm a nice person (hahaha), I'll answer these for you.

To get the title you just need to get to lvl 20 BEFORE you leave pre-searing. Read this thread from the start, and you'll get a darn good idea of what you need to do.

You don't NEED a 2nd profession, but ones that will help are Ranger or Monk for a Warrior. Ranger for the pet and Troll Unguent (both very useful), Monk for Bane signet, Banish, Healing Breeze, Orison of Healing, which you may (or may not) find useful.

You can die in pre-searing, and the ONLY way of getting the title is by dying, so you CAN'T go for Survivor on the same character.

There are some who can 'power level', but it only works upto a point. Once you get to lvl 14 you will no longer get XP from the charr and have to boss kill instead.

Tullzinski · Apr 09, 2009, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Anon,

Maybe you can help me with a few things. Last month I created a couple of pre chars (one gate monkey/mule and one LDOA) so my knowledge of pre has been stunted due to not being in pre since GW first came out. I have read in many places talking about how pre searing gold is worth more than post gold, is this strictly due to availability of gold in pre? (less gold drops so the gold that drops is "worth" more) I dont seem to remember my gold in pre magically doubling when I moved to post.

Dug through presearing.com and here and really could not find a definate answer.

Almost the same question on dyes from pre; do dyes from pre not mix/stack with dyes from post?

Do the charr bags change over to regular bags in post?

Thanks for any insight you can give me.

Currently Level 14 necro...

Knight of Ninestars · Apr 13, 2009, 08:39 AM // 08:39

It is harder to attain a huge amount of wealth in presearing than in post. Because of this, people will buy gold in pre and pay with gold in post. Usually at a 1:2-2.5 ratio (pre : post)

Dye is the same throughout the game, there is no special "pre" dye. Its easier to farm dyes in pre though because there are less possible items to be dropped.

Charr Bags are a green item dropped from the charr bosses that already have 10 inventory spaces available. They will stay as charr bags when you sear your toon.

T1Cybernetic · Apr 15, 2009, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I just asked a couple of people (while killing spiders) in pre about the time it took them to get the title.

I have so far stuck to level 16 for just over 3 years but i have just deleted my warrior in favor of a necromancer to go to level 16 and possibly in the future (maybe ldoa) but 16 is enough for now

Undead King Knight · Apr 16, 2009, 02:33 AM // 02:33

I have found that the E/R works perfect for farming the charr here. I got one right now actually mostly for new collector but still charr killing.

Burning Freebies · Apr 20, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24

I need a bit of help.

I have a lvl 15 monk that i have decided to start death levelling on. This is because i dont want to grind for several hundred hours for lvl 15 to 16. However, i cant get a decent solo build that allows me to deal damage to kill mobs and survive. If anyone can help me make a solo build, that would be great. A few points that may help you:

*I have a fire imp summoning stone for killing the charr at the end of the run
*I have a minor divine favor rune on my armour
*I have a smiting magic staff (req 4) that sometimes halves casting time of healing prayers skills
*I have a longbow and a long sword
*I have ele secondary skills, but havent accepted the secondary prof yet
*Lvl 15 means I have 100 attribute points to spend (remember i have a minor divine favor rune)

If anyone can help me choose a decent set of 8 skills, and help me use my attribute points well, the help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Knight of Ninestars · Apr 20, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

When you're death leveling, it will take multiple resurrections before you kill 1 charr. So if you have an ele secondary, put a decent amount of points into firestorm so you can spam flare. Put some points into healing or prot, for help with pulling the charr. Don't use skills like firestorm or symbol of wrath because they last after you are dead. If a charr dies when you are dead, you receive no xp. For this reason, don't use the imp while death leveling either. And if you get an attack off just before you die, and the charr gets killed from this, you may not get the xp from killing it.

It is still much faster to grind out the boss runs till 16

Shadowspawn X · Apr 21, 2009, 02:57 AM // 02:57

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Originally Posted by Knight of Ninestars

It is still much faster to grind out the boss runs till 16

It takes 81 boss runs to get from level 15 to level 16 a huge waste of time at the keyboard. There are way less actual play hours wasted to set up a dl before bed/work/school. The beauty of LDoA is you do it afk, not grinding away at the keyboard.

Burning Freebies · Apr 21, 2009, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Wrong, it takes 80 runs from lvl 14-15. It is 300 boss runs for lvl 15-16. And thanks to everyone for the help, i have an answer to the question on another thread i asked the question on.

Burning Freebies · Apr 21, 2009, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

There is no hard/fast number of deaths required.. Basically if you have left the quests until the end, you need to death level until you get to lvl 19 and about 35% (ish).

I thought quests accounted for all the remaining exp. I didnt realise it was 35% less than all of it.

killerbot3009 · Apr 22, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23

nice thread, i some how seem to think that lvl 13 in 2 days ment that i spend way too much time in pre searing lol

Knight of Ninestars · Apr 22, 2009, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Burning Freebies

Wrong, it takes 80 runs from lvl 14-15. It is 300 boss runs for lvl 15-16. And thanks to everyone for the help, i have an answer to the question on another thread i asked the question on.

At lvl 15, every lvl 10 boss you kill gives 16xp. Since theres 4, you net 64 xp a run. But wait! Bosses give double the xp so that amounts to 128xp a run. Seeing as you need 10400 xp to reach lvl 16, this is about 81 boss runs. This should take about 5-10 hours of play time depending on how fast you can do a boss run. Or you can do a 3-4 group death level which will net you about 9-16%.

Shadowspawn X · Apr 23, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by Burning Freebies

Wrong, it takes 80 runs from lvl 14-15. It is 300 boss runs for lvl 15-16. And thanks to everyone for the help, i have an answer to the question on another thread i asked the question on.

You just spreading misinformation. You get 1.2% of your xp per boss run at level 15 towards level 20 which takes 81 runs to get to level 16. At 82,600 XP you have level 15 so you need exactly 10,400 XP to reach 93,000 XP for level 16. At level 15 killing a level 10 gives you 16XP multiply that by four and you get 64XP per run, you realize that bosses give a bonus of two times the XP so multiply the 64 x 2 and you get 128XP per boss run. That tells us that 10,400/128=81 runs. And to get from levels 14-15 its 42 runs do your own math for that one. I am a LDoA and believe me I won't give you wrong information.

Anon-e-mouse · Apr 23, 2009, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by Burning Freebies

I thought quests accounted for all the remaining exp. I didnt realise it was 35% less than all of it.

Unfortunately no, once you hit lvl 19, you still have to do at least 3 or 4 more DL sessions, as even if you do every quest, it's still not enough to take you from 19 > 20.

Once you hit 19, you need between 2 and 3,000 more XP from DL'ing before you can start doing quests.

http://www.presearing.com/index.php?...66&Item id=49

Rhiana Reborn · May 01, 2009, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Quick question here... how do I Death Level? I know the basic concept, but I tried with moas outside the Abbey, and they just run away after they kill me, and when I rez they are out of aggro range of the shrine.

Arduin · May 03, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20

http://www.presearing.com/index.php?...25&Item id=47