Curse

king proculus · Nov 12, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

oh and if this title is real how come guru don't have it in the list of titles? and that i have never seen or heard of it?

Neo Nugget · Nov 12, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Theres a screen on the 6th page.*cough*

amish lifeguard · Nov 12, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

god dammit people, stop speculating. if theres a guide, and over 6 pages of posts and multiple screen shots, you know its real. guru doesnt update everything in a timely manner nor does it contain everything there is to know about Guild Wars. stop being stupid and take 5 min to read the other posts.

as to getting LDOA and survivor, you will have to have a very good friend go with you into a zone. next, they will have to death level for hours. once the animal or enemy is at a sufficient level, the friend will leave and the person trying for survivor will kill the pet.

basically, your friend death levels the enemy and you steal the kill and take all the exp.

Ajantis · Nov 12, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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Originally Posted by amish lifeguard

god dammit people, stop speculating. if theres a guide, and over 6 pages of posts and multiple screen shots, you know its real. guru doesnt update everything in a timely manner nor does it contain everything there is to know about Guild Wars. stop being stupid and take 5 min to read the other posts.

as to getting LDOA and survivor, you will have to have a very good friend go with you into a zone. next, they will have to death level for hours. once the animal or enemy is at a sufficient level, the friend will leave and the person trying for survivor will kill the pet.

basically, your friend death levels the enemy and you steal the kill and take all the exp.

god damnit people, start reading the topic.

your friend does not ress as long as you are alive, if you die too, no survivor for you. If you ress your friend, very smart, although it only works once cause there is no hardress in pre (unless you recharge your res sig when you kill a boss) so you can res him 2-3 times (which won't even get the enemy to the next level)

Loki Seiguro · Nov 12, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54

lol sry it wasnt in first post

its like the first post on page 2

Ajantis · Nov 12, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Nope, it's not

Can't you just TELL US? Or did you just said it without actually trying ingame?

Loki Seiguro · Nov 12, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

page 1 3rd post sry for all the misleadings

Yunas Ele · Nov 12, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Like Ajantis said, your method doesn't work, amish. Regardless of wether you have a res sig or not (and wether its been used or not), the only way for the res shrine to activate is for both you and your friend to off died, so gg survivor.

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

page 1 3rd post sry for all the misleadings

Ok, heres that post...

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Originally Posted by holyjew888

there is, but are you willing to add on another 100+hours w/o being afk?

here is what you do:
instead of letting the moa death lvl off of you ''test'' the secondary ranger for skills to get charm animal, go charm an animal and make sure it is also lvl 16 when you try this. Instead of haveing the moa kill you get it to kill your animal, you cannot afk for this as you have to keep ressing the pet yourself.

GL WITH THIS...i would recomend going for LDoA and survivor, but if you do i will bow in your honor

The pet method doesn't work because after the first death, your pet gives 0 exp. Someone already tested this and had no luck with it. I myself have tested it and didn't get anywhere with it either so.... have you even tested it? Can you give us a pic of your survivor (at exp more than level 17) and LDoA on the same char?
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Really, I would like to know how you're doing it. From what I can see theres only 2 ways.

1) You got to level 16 then did quests to level 17. You can get 17/20 without dying, but the last 3 levels the only way is to death level....

2) You did this a longggg time ago (Before survivor title and LDoA were added to the game), when either a) you coud level the monsters via your pet or b) the res shrine ressed without both people being dead.

Please, I've read through the whole topic and theres no proven way to do this posted so far.. Just tell us how you're doing it...

holyjew888 · Nov 12, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

OK I HAVE TO CLEAR SOME THINGS UP!

1. my highest lvl pre char is lvl 12 NOT 20, so quit pming asking for a screeny

2. as i have not gained lvl 20 i have not gained lvl 20 with survivor! all these thoughts are IDEAS!, the stuff in the original post is proven and tested, pet deathlvling and all were not for sure so i did not put in first post for that reason

3. i am happy to help anyone in anyway i can but for small things like reaching lvl 2 DONT PM ON THAT!, try being a little more independant

so far i know of about 20 or so people that have included ''is leet'' and i thank you for that, it helps me know that people are really reading the guide and using it

-ju

Loki Seiguro · Nov 12, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

well like i said i am only lvl 18 so no i dont have the survior title yet and 2) ive only done it once so you mgiht be right aboiut the pet thing as i have a life or something of it so i cant stand afk for more then 3 hours at a time

i did make a new char for the title agian to test out some things..im level 4 atm but the title hasnt shown up...weird for my loki is lett char i didnt look until i was high levled so lol

Yunas Ele · Nov 13, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

well like i said i am only lvl 18 so no i dont have the survior title yet and 2) ive only done it once so you mgiht be right aboiut the pet thing as i have a life or something of it so i cant stand afk for more then 3 hours at a time

i did make a new char for the title agian to test out some things..im level 4 atm but the title hasnt shown up...weird for my loki is lett char i didnt look until i was high levled so lol

Ya but how did you get to level 18 survivor? As far as I can see level 17 is the highest you can go in pre without dying....

God Apprentice · Nov 13, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

it get both title LDoA and survior is stated in the first post i beleve

- lost the title this morning thoguh the survior one lol

<loki is leet - lvl 19 started quests

mo/n btw

^^^^^ lol to god not completing either games

ive been abel to do this title while playing and finshing aall campeigns but then again i ahve no life lol.

Hope you enjoy them later God

hehe

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

I've read through the first post multiple times and I can't see any mention on how to get survivor and LDoA, so would appreciate if you could tell us...

Well you can only gain levels off of creatures 5 levels below you so at 16 everything is 6 levels below you, therefore you have to death level.

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Originally Posted by king proculus

oh and if this title is real how come guru don't have it in the list of titles? and that i have never seen or heard of it?

You sir, are a moron.

I posted a PIC on page 6 that is Anti with the title, also there is a pic of me killing a level 20 creature AND the title track for the damn title.

Next time read all the posts.

Yunas Ele · Nov 13, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by God Apprentice

Well you can only gain levels off of creatures 5 levels below you so at 16 everything is 6 levels below you, therefore you have to death level.

Someone said they were level 18 or 19 and had survivor still. Like you said, you can get to 16 (without dying). You could quest to 17 if you wanted (although its best to save it till 19) but after that, like you said, death leveling is only option. That is why I would like to know how the guy got level 18 or 19 with survivor (or is he just BSing us...)

Ajantis · Nov 13, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Based on the final post.. I vote for BS

Elbereth_Tiniquetil · Nov 14, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Not a bad guide

Not sure but if you like you might want to put some parts in your guide about using the charr Ai against them to help you solo as found in the guide I had from the old topic.

Also might be nice if you listed the people who first had this title as it was a very had title to get .i.e god anti and max?

here was an alternative guide

my guide posted 2 nov

How to get a level 20 character in Pre-searing

1) First don’t do any quests until later, you will need the xp to get to lv16

2) When you first start go outside and kill the skale and any aloe seeds.

3) When you get 5 fins get your belt pouch from the collector outside ascalon and go inside sell all your treasure and repeat step 2 until you get to lv 2 or 3.

4) After lv 3 move south towards Ashford Abbey and kill bandits and worms

5) now you can do the first profession quest to get the main skills, but only the first one.

6) At this stage I like to get some secondary profession skill, you don’t need to complete any quests to get them so do not complete the quest yet.

Some good 2nd class are Monk for smite and heal works great in catacombs of you like dye farming, ranger for troll ung and pet that can help you tank. Ele for firestorm as this still works in pre, Necro for minions or regen, mes for fast degen,

7) Now I like to move my character towards Foibles fair and hunt some ice elementals for the ice loadstones. When you get 3 swap with the collector for your armor upgrade, he can be found just outside Foibles Fair.

8) Zone to Ascalon and go out and head to the West towards The Barradian Estate. On the way kill Aloe for the seeds, save them for the collector in Fort Rank who has your next armour upgrade.

9) Zone to Ashford and once outside move to the East to Fort Ranik. On the way kill the spiders for the legs.

10) Once in Ranik get your Armour upgrades (2) and sell any treasure

*****Step 11 can be left for when you are lv 19 to help with getting lv 20****

11) Now you can take a 2nd profession (make sure you do all the 2nd profession trainers quests for the xp) should be 5 quests not counting your main profession i.e Ele, ranger, war, Monk, Nec, Mes. A good 2nd profession for a pre character is Monk for the smite, Ranger for the pet or my fav a ele as fire storm this still works in pre .

12) Now you can get your last armour upgrade, go to the Ashford abbey and enter the Catacombs. Kill the gargoyles for the skulls and trade with the collector who is just before the Exit that leads out of the catacombs and into Wizards folly.

13) Get a weapon made for you in ascalon and any good caster offhand items.

14) Now find a player and go over the wall, to fight with you or just ask players to open the gate and then get them to map out so that you can solo the area. I have found that the best for me was a lv9 ranger to solo just make sure you take a pet so that they can tank.

If you solo over the wall the AI can help you, most groups here are made up of 4 NPC’s.

With a good spawn you will get 1 shaman, 1 charr necro, 1axe fiend and 1 sword fiend. A bad spawn will be 2 hunters and 2 shaman or 2hunters 2 axe/sword fiends.

In groups with charr healers/ casters if you pull with your bow and run most times the mob will follow you but will then withdraw, if you wait most times the casters will get irritated and will come and attack you 1 at a time. First the shaman, then the other casters and lastly the axe or sword fiends will attack together. The biggest problem I have found was from the archers.

15) Fight charr till level 12, at this stage the fastest way to lv up is to just kill the main Charr who are at the shrine.

16) Repeat until lv 14-15 But be prepared to be bored as after lv 12 things will start to take time as you will only get xp from the 4 boss at the fire shrine.

17) Once you hit lV15 you will no longer get xp from here but now you can start to use the death level trick see below for details.

18) At this point you have 2 options to level your character via death levelling to get to lv 20 First you can pull a strider / moa bird to a res shrine and let them kill you until they lv up or over the wall using the charr to death level.

For the abbey option, travel outside the abbey and aggro one or two of the striders / moa birds, pull them to the res shrine and then let them kill you.

With my cr at lv 13

After 2 deaths the Moa will be lv2
After 5 deaths the Moa will be lv 3
After 5 deaths the moa will be lv 4 after that and I left the pc running.

for over the wall pull some charr to the res shrine let them kill all the npc here then let them kill you until they level to a point you can get xp from them.
Then kill them/ wash repeat.

19) once you get to lv 19 you can complete step 11 if you did not do before.
Now you can take a 2nd profession (make sure you do all the 2nd profession trainers quests for the xp) should be 5 quests not counting your main profession i.e Ele, ranger, war, Monk, Nec, Mes. A good 2nd profession for a pre character is Monk for the smite, Ranger for the pet or my fav a ele as fire storm this still works in pre .

20) complete any outstanding quests
cograts you got a lv 20 cr

Julia Rosetta · Nov 14, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53

You said that it takes all the moas 2-3 hours to reach lvl 20 but when I do it only one of them levels and it takes much longer than 3 hours, what's going on? I'm a Wamo lvl 16

Tetris L · Nov 14, 2006, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Elbereth_Tiniquetil

17) Once you hit lV15 you will no longer get xp from here but now you can complete all the pre quests, main skill quests and secondary quests until you get to lv 16.

As I've explained on page 5 of this thread it is better to wait with doing any quests until you've hit level 19.

Elbereth_Tiniquetil · Nov 14, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24

True the longer you save all your quests for the XP the better but this guide was written a long time ago just after the lv 16 cap, it was then edited on the 2nd Nov along with the moa / strider trick in a rush for all the doubtful Thomas’s in the world that said you can’t get a high level character in pre anymore.

I like the guide just wanted to let people who did not know that the Charr AI can be used to your advantage. And that it would be nice to give credit to all the players who first found the death levelling trick and spent all the time to get to lv 20

Also I have had a high level pre character that’s how I made my first guide before the game was changed,

Thanks to God Anti-Powers and max for showing me that you can get a lv 20 character and thanks Gods Apprentice for spending time with me in pre,. Showing me the moa /strider trick

Dolls

God Apprentice · Nov 14, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Julia Rosetta

You said that it takes all the moas 2-3 hours to reach lvl 20 but when I do it only one of them levels and it takes much longer than 3 hours, what's going on? I'm a Wamo lvl 16

It will take you 9-10 hours at that levelto level them all the way to 20. Only one will level at a time.

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Originally Posted by Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Thanks to God Anti-Powers and max for showing me that you can get a lv 20 character and thanks Gods Apprentice for spending time with me in pre,. Showing me the moa /strider trick

Dolls

Thanks for the recognition Dolls

After going to drop another perma pre over the wall I said we should see about pulling the Charr ie how effective it is:

Once again they can be pulled:

The only problem is that you can only pull casters, the melee charr and the hunters will not pull.

holyjew888 · Nov 15, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48

sorry about the mixup with estimations on dl'in times but from the information that i found that seemed like a fair estimation

elbereth, there are to many things wrong with that guide that i care to point out, im sorry but mine is superior!

will edit mine to 9-10 hours as well as total times then are WAAY! off