Curse

duncan99 · Feb 28, 2007, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by Mickey

Ok, good, I remember that Guild Hall exploit, I used it for one of my monks, then felt bad about cheating, so I deleted her and started again, now I am at 1 mil exp and no deaths

ye but theres no need to hate on those who used it on a character

Mickey · Mar 02, 2007, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by duncan99

ye but theres no need to hate on those who used it on a character

I am not, I appreciate the fact that you leeked that out. Overall, there are tons of ways to get the title. I don't consider capping, fffing, or farming cheating, because they are all risky in their own way. What I do consider cheating is powerleveling, because you are doing nothing but move and get exp, but just to clear things up, I didn't want to seem like I was flaming on you.

Ahab The Great · Mar 02, 2007, 10:44 AM // 10:44

this title in its first tier is not very hard to attain if one starts in Factions, as has been mentioned before.
you can be easily lvl 20 by the time you leave Shing Jea Island, provided you do every single quest on the island, as well as the one for all professions, and if you use scrolls of experience.
i reached 177,000xp and died, however, in The Undercity, was going in there to do Assist the Guards, still had many Kaineng City/Wajjun Bazaar/Bukdek Byway/Bejunkan Pier/... quests to do (about 20,000 or so xp in them), and that elementalist Am Fah boss fell from the skies and after i slaughtered his mob and the one behind me (yes its about 12 Am Fahs total and you are surrounded) he killed me in 2 strikes with his lightning overpowered lamepackage.
This is quite frustrating. I had 100 minutes of drunkenness and 4 Sweet Tooth points, as well as 1 Tyria, 2 Cantha and more to come missions completed. Was about to do Dunes of Despair and Thirsty River to go to my doppelganger and get that 50,000 xp...
is there any way for a Necro/Mesmer to not be killed by these ele freaks?
I mean their attacks are so over the roof....how can a lvl 24 boss slosh me in 2 strikes? Isn't it a bit lame? I had max armour (from Voldo the Exotic) and Ghial's Staff..
oh well..
gonna start again.
And yes after these experiences maybe it is best to just do something safe to get most of the XP for this title, coz even though i *only* waste 27 hours on this char, its still 27 hours of my time..

Anyhow good luck to anyone out there going for it! I guess the safest bet is have Monk as either primary or secondary profession, so im gonna say F*** mesmer and be a Necro/Mo, to always have self-heal available and not just Soul Feast and Taste of Death.

fb_7 · Mar 03, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Well if you haven't noticed, Bosses in Factions and Nightfall do double damage so thats why you got killed in 2 hits. You don't need to change your secondary to Monk for survivor, I can think of three ways (from a defensive perpective) that might help you survive against ele bosses.

1. Assuming your an MM, try using Dark Bond. It should be able to help you survive damage from Enemies in general provided that you have some minions with you

2. Protective spirit is very helpful. I don't think any of the Factions henchmen have it so, so you'll need a friend to bring it or if you have access to nightfall, you can make a monk hero bring it and make that hero use it on you.

3. Um, i Guess you could bring that ritualist henchmen that Has Shelter, which is basically Protective spirit for the entire party. I Don't know when he uses shelter, but it should be able to last long enuf to prevent a bit of major spike damage.

There are plenty of ways to deal with bosses but these are the only tips I could think of right now.

Good luck to you again if you try it, 27 hours isn't that bad, its worst when you spend several weeks going slowly, playing carefully through Prophecies, and then deciding to go AFK for 5 seconds and then finding out you got killed by a siege attack...:/

Dahl · Mar 03, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Forget about the survivor title. It's garbage and bugged. I got to 400k exp and it said I died, but I never did. I watched my characters exp, it was fine, no deaths. I played for awhile and didn't even come close to death at any point. I checked deaths and it said 1.

A friend of mine also died in town apparently. Checked his deaths, said 0. Went afk for a couple hours came back, 1 death.

anet has some scripting to do on the death counter.

DCD · Mar 05, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Ahab The Great

i reached 177,000xp and died, however, in The Undercity, was going in there to do Assist the Guards, still had many Kaineng City/Wajjun Bazaar/Bukdek Byway/Bejunkan Pier/... quests to do (about 20,000 or so xp in them), and that elementalist Am Fah boss fell from the skies and after i slaughtered his mob and the one behind me (yes its about 12 Am Fahs total and you are surrounded) he killed me in 2 strikes with his lightning overpowered lamepackage.

Experiences like yours are why I don't feel guilty about capping, since it is pretty dangerous in and of itself. For that boss as soon as all the bad guys dropped, I ran out of the alleyway to a place where I wasn't surrounded, then turned and fought them all on one side - being surrounded never helps your survival chances. I also try to ensure my heroes and I all have interrupts or knockdowns, so as to minimize the chances of those double-damage spells going off in the first place. And here are my credentials for giving advice on surviving:

A ton of skill caps, if that debases it for you, but also the Prophecies campaign completed up through Defend Droknar's Forge (20,000 xp ftw!), and ZERO time spent adventuring with flaky, unreliable human players.

Marverick · Mar 06, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Is it a good idea to do the other Titan Quests? Without using "flaky, unreliable human players" you only get a group of four because level 3-15 henchmen are useless.... but together the Titan Quests give 130k XP in addition to combat so... yea

DCD · Mar 06, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

You can do Last Day Dawns with heroes only, and if you're daring AND have reliable guildies you can try the others. The trouble is that you have high level enemies coming at you from multiple directions at once, and as noted before being surrounded is never good for a survivor. There's also the coward route of having guildies fight the battle whilst you hide somewhere far away, but that is cheesy.

Ironically, the Titan Source quest is much easier than the three defend quests before it. It's a shame you can't just skip to that one.

1 up and 2 down · Mar 14, 2007, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Well, I had managed to get the first survivor tier with my sin and managed to get up to about 450k exp then while doing the Nahpui quarter mission I died to a ranger spike. I got really mad so I didn't try to survive the rest of the mission and I never even died -.-. So I started over again and hopefully I won't die this time. This time I won't try Nahpui with a hench/hero team, next time it will be with guildies.

Reason · Mar 16, 2007, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Nice Guide

I was always to lazy to make a Ranger but i wanted one, figured if I am gonna do it let's do it proper.

jjdefan · Mar 16, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by tortugan

not 1 xp has been farmed

What do you consider "farmed"? Is using scrolls during quests farming? I don't go out into an EA just to kill for XP. I only go out to do the quests, but I do use scrolls to maximize the XP I do get. Is that considered farming?

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Mar 28, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Another one:

The most important thing (right after a stable connection) for aspiring survivors in my experience is high health. Not because high health means you can take more damage before you die, but because of how mobs prioritize their attacks: They go after low health targets first. That's why having a Minion Master (hero) is incredibly useful (minions have lower levels and thus lower health). Boost yourself up to ~600 health and mobs will completely ignore you, most of the time. You won't need high armor if nothing actually attacks you.

Kushiels_Scion · Apr 09, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by cR4zY-n^

Why don't you make it then? There's a difference between fast and easy. It is faster yes, but once you reach Cantha with lvl 17 it's tricky without help to play and gain lvl 20 while monsters are lvl 20 immidiately...

Not quite so i made a title 1 survivor with an assassin getting to the mainland at level 12 or so and did all the quests around the wajun bazaar and got the title. The quests so long as you keep open Meet with Brother Tosai, ttheir is absolutely no fighting you HAVE to fight but jade knights at the start which you can just throw in henches into the ring to kill them for you.

and soloing for this title isnt *non challenging* because your all alone you could die at any time with one false move or lucklessness. It's not a cheap way to gain exp but really a more experienced way of doing it if you are move afraid of venturing into one area or another for certain quests because the monsters out their. also now sense nightfall their are the insect hunting and corsair hunter ect things at the shrines which will give you double exp on those kills and scrolls will make it even higher.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 09, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36

I'm 150k exp away from my lvl 3 survivor

just have to keep capping!!

Lady Ana Stacia · Apr 10, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

And yet another is born!

thehoweller · Apr 11, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Go me!, Go Me!, It's my b-day! I win! Thank you all!

thehoweller · Apr 11, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Go me!, Go Me!, It's my b-day! I win! Thank you all!

blindsight13 · Apr 23, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

That also doesn't include the first two attempts dieing after just getting Survivor...

Great first post with lots of great advice. IMO every second playing trying to get this crazy title, you run the risk of dying no matter what you do (whether it be capping, questing, missions, farming etc...) but I do agree with the powerleveling comment as the wrong way to attain this title as that eliminates the risk (why have this title without the risk? kind of goes with no guts no glory... oh well).

Good luck to everyone trying to get this title! Fun and frustrating and a lot of holy crap moments!

... and still continuing to level.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 28, 2007, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Yay

only capped 58 elites >_<
played up to gates in NF
and eternal grove in factions XD

nectuss · Apr 29, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Ty for your guide. I will start survivor sun and i'l bet i will look here into this thread some more