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Eramon · Jun 12, 2011, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by russiansteven

If anyone has installed this and used this please post how effective it is and weather or not you've gotten banned yet

I'm 99% sure there's no installation required to run the .exe, you just open Guild Wars and open the .exe.

Ghosst · Jun 12, 2011, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by Calista Blackblood

From Here

Be advised: We hold no responsibility for potential nasty outcomes from the use of this program.

No one wants "Anet <3's this program, Ooo", but perhaps an endorsement of, "As long as you use the original program in its original state for its original purpose, you will not have your account banned", as much as TexMod has been given a pass. It shouldn't be such a giant favor to have the ability to see your armor and dye choices without spending hundreds of plat.

As of 1159AM, 12-06-2011 the MD5 has remained the same as was previously reported. Windows users can download a checksum verifier from support.microsoft.com (Article: 841290)

MD5: 3107c2e493c03a7eb05b576420d58a99

PS: No, I haven't run it until someone from ArenaNet confirms it's not an offense. If that day never comes, the program will be collecting digital dust on one of my drives.

Urcscumug · Jun 12, 2011, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Intrinsic

Get a decent firewall and you have no problem, one that alerts you to anything that tries todo anything network related.

Does it alert you when gw.exe connects to the Internet? No? Then it won't when another program piggybacks on gw.exe.

Do not be happy that your antivirus (or firewall, or whatever) program didn't show any alert about gwdressup.exe. A really good security program or feature would have screamed murder at the sight of one program reaching inside another and doing stuff with it. Or it would have been simply disallowed -- and gwdressup.exe would not work.

Side rant (skip if you don't care): firewalls have got to be one of the most misunderstood pieces of technology ever, when it comes to IT security. Whatever you're thinking about your firewall, it's probably not true. They're a tool meant to manipulate network packets at a low level. They weren't meant to be used to make up for lack of proper security in neither operating systems nor individual programs. But because such problems are abundant, they've become a sort of go-to universal solution. Which is about as effective as using duct-tape to treat a hole in the skull.

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Originally Posted by Intrinsic

And if ever in doubt just run the program inside a VM like VirtualBox, it's totally free and anything run inside it will cause zero damage to your system.

It's not about damage. A smart parasitic piece of software will never do anything to draw attention.

It's about using an already running program, which you already gave access and priviledges to, for its own purposes. gw.exe is already known to your system, the fact it connects to the internet is known and allowed. Since we're not being asked to run gwdressup.exe before entering the password we can [maybe] rule out either keylogging or sniffing the password.

But it doesn't change the fact that when gwdressup.exe runs, it reaches inside gw.exe and uses it. And gw.exe at that point is fully acknowledged and allowed on your system AND authenticated to GW servers. Meaning an evil program can (pure hypothetical example) tell gw.exe to show you the 'connection failed' dialogue, while it tells your character to go merch everything, or to trade everything to Bot Number Seven in a certain outpost.

Now, that's probably not what gwdressup.exe does. But until I see some kind of trustworthy confirmation, I'm not about to put my entire account at risk (either from hijacking or from an ANet ban) just so I can gape at some armors I'm not gonna buy anyway.

UnicornStampede · Jun 13, 2011, 05:07 AM // 05:07

someone tell me if this site is legit.

Intrinsic · Jun 13, 2011, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by Urcscumug

Does it alert you when gw.exe connects to the Internet? No? Then it won't when another program piggybacks on gw.exe.

If the file gets changed yes it does, like when the program gets patched(it even warns me when the gw.tmp files gets changed). And if it changes in anyway while running i'll get an alert.
Viruses(general catchall term) work in a few ways when targeting a specific program or process. They'll either directly infect the exe in which case if you have a decent commercial software firewall or antivirus(if it's already a known virus) you'll get alerted like with LnS that the file has been changed. Or they'll sit around and inject themselves into the process when it is running. Injecting does exactly what it says on the tin, it needs to find an unused part of the process's memory space to store the code it wants to be run. Then it needs to know a specific piece of code that gets run a lot with a big enough cap in it. This usually requires the removal of one/some instructions and a jmp [our dodgy code] NOP NOP(depending on how big the removed instruction was) being insert to direct the program flow, and then well i won't go into all the boring details about keeping the stack and registers as they were before running the dodgy code and returning control back to the original program without alerting it(this is how cracks for games do their thing 99% of the time to circumvent protections). But basically this won't happen with GWDressUp, this is way out of the scope of .NET ;p and the very nature of MMOs is that they are patch often, which means updating the virus for each patch and lets face it if anyone was really that bothered then WoW would have been hit long long ago, but hasn't been, it's just standard keyloggers/hacked forum user databases(most people use the same username and password everywhere) which result in lost accounts.
And LnS does catch texmod in case you were wondering.

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It's not about damage. A smart parasitic piece of software will never do anything to draw attention.

Again this goes back to the quality of the security software you use, you get what you pay for. Plus it helps to know what to look out for and be very careful(just use your brain really, never click anything on a google ad down the side or up the top in the yellow box!) what you look at on the net. My brother for example is always getting his machine infected because of his time spent on gentlemen's special interest sites and i have to go clean it up

his machine that is...

martyn10011 · Jun 13, 2011, 09:48 AM // 09:48

The program works, does exactly what it says it does and my computer hasn't and isn't going to blow up. Also I already know no-one would ever be banned for using it, are you guys insane? Stop being so criminally untrusting and caring so deeply about your GW accounts...

Thank you to the dev for this, excellent idea and it will be extremely useful for me at least.

Nekodesu · Jun 13, 2011, 09:49 AM // 09:49

Just wanna say that I use it too. I have scanned it with AVG and for those who have or know AVG it is a nazi and asks you to accept anything(Ofc unless you take the thingy down) even every damn file inside an installation file. It always find trojans when they start up. I've not have problems yet but i'll try check GwDressUp a little more.

Mordiego · Jun 13, 2011, 10:43 AM // 10:43

I just used my trash account, made pvp chars that have the same appearance as the characters I want to see tweaked and customised them. It's rly great to see them in all possible armor combos.

epervier · Jun 13, 2011, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Downloaded! My wife is gonna love this! She can spend hours in the character creation screens and never actually make a character. Now that she can play barbie doll with her actual characters, I don't think she will get anything done from now on. Thanks Argos!

russiansteven · Jun 13, 2011, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Program looks safe.
Will come back and tell you if I get a perma. ban within the next day or two.

Ximvotn · Jun 14, 2011, 12:08 AM // 00:08

I used it, but after running it thought about it being a bad idea to use on my main account. The alternate account is a good idea, I'll probably stick with that next time I need a preview, a good program none the less.

-Vodka- · Jun 14, 2011, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Looks like a useful program, but would like technical details on how exactly it interacts with the GW client before I commit to using it.

Olle · Jun 14, 2011, 12:08 PM // 12:08

used it since it came out, no ban what-so-ever , scanned with AVG+norton, its safe.
Also, why would this be bannable ?, It works just as texmod, it doesnt give you any help in game (though having an lvl 1 monk with obby+chaos in pre was fun when trolling ally!)

Shenro · Jun 14, 2011, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Has anybody Considered Talking to Gaile Grey asking of she could Contact somebody to Take a Look at such Programme? I know Anet already say "They Don't Allow 3rd Party Programmes or Programmes that affect the .exe File"

So does this Dress up Work Pretty Much Like texmod?

Olle · Jun 14, 2011, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by Shenro

Has anybody Considered Talking to Gaile Grey asking of she could Contact somebody to Take a Look at such Programme? I know Anet already say "They Don't Allow 3rd Party Programmes or Programmes that affect the .exe File"

So does this Dress up Work Pretty Much Like texmod?

check the youtube link at the gwdressup page and you'll see
(if ur that paranoid that u dont eaven dare to look at an yt link..gawh)

Shenro · Jun 14, 2011, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Noo i've Watched the Video and it seems Just like Texmod only the fact you can Actually wear the Armour Where as Texmod edits the textures rather then you choosing what armour you want to wear.

Just Curious if Its best to use on an Alt account or Just use it. I'm Guessing it Doesn't Interfere with .exe File?

Surgo · Jun 14, 2011, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Thank you SO much!

I have been waiting for this sort of thing for almost my entire Guild Wars career. My hat is off to everyone who worked on this!

Sadly, it still didn't help me decide between the norn armor and elite enchanters for my Mesmer's domination set :x.

shadeblade47 · Jun 14, 2011, 11:45 PM // 23:45

My computer automatically scans every file and this came up clean, but I'm willing to bet this is against the rules. GW Estimator has been taken down (then put back up under a new domain) several times because it goes against the rules by recording information in the game. You can tell that this is no ordinary texmod due to the fact that you run it while already on GW (rather than starting GW through it), and it shows on the top of the program your character name and profession. This means that it's actually receiving information from the game. Seem like its running similarly to GW Estimator.

killmeshiniing · Jun 15, 2011, 01:04 AM // 01:04

This is really cool, I wish I'd known about it sooner because I'd bought two pairs of shoes on a character and didn't like either of them before deciding what I finally wanted with this tool. However I won't use it anymore if it's against the rules, I would like to know.

Lishy · Jun 15, 2011, 02:22 AM // 02:22

I'm standing besides the sidelines. This is too good to be true.