Curse

A11Eur0 · Mar 29, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by Elemental Labrat

All I see is QQ since you don't have max and cant possibly think of anything better to do then to annoy someone else who is trying to help others....If you think your so great, write your own guide... oh wait... you would rather bother someone else about theirs.

You failed to read the guide because he offers several options besides paying for everything you do...

You make it seem like theres more then two options to everything.... but really theres only do it yourself or pay someone else to do it. He even gives options as to what to do if you can't max some of them... alternatives.

Um...lol. I'm 3 mil kurzick faction (pre-donation) and 8 vanquishes away from GWAMM. If I spend a good solid month of current per-day hours just farming faction, I can have it the next day when I finish vanquishing. Therefore, no QQ from me just because I "don't have GWAMM". I'm offering constructive criticism, and if he wants to tout himself as the premier Guide-writer on this board (evident from his choice of name), then he should possibly learn to be a little more robust in his explanations, rather than gravitating back to "buying runs". Again: I DID READ THE DAMN POST. There might be options, but every other line (exaggeration) was "pay for runs".

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Once you get to rank 8 in each, start filling HM hero handbooks, if you can afford it, pay for runners to fill them, if not…well, you are gong to do a lot of hard work, and HM group searching, not to mention guild begging :P

My point is clear: he assumes that the average person going for GWAMM lacks the ability to complete these titles self-sufficiently. Pay for titles or else you'll have to work hard or beg for help from guildies...wow, pretentiousness abounds.

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First of all, Canthan vanquishing is extremely easy (except for maybe a couple in the city, and unwaking waters), so just do most of the continent yourself.

General consensus: If it's easy, you can do it yourself. If not...well you're going to need help.

A good game guide does not assume the person reading it is a total moron who is bad at the game. A good game guide assumes the player can do most of the game on his/her own but might not be able to find everything out for themselves. I'm not saying do a play-by-play of vanquishing every area...I'm saying give the reader the benefit of the doubt that they have the ability to do everything on their own. I'd suggest changing every mention of "runs" to something like "this is what you have to do, and there are runners available for anything you find yourself unable to do." This is much different than assuming only the easiest parts of the game can be completed alone.

Proof of being close to GWAMM:

NaveEqualsFTW · Mar 29, 2009, 12:15 PM // 12:15

first of all sorry if this has been mentioned but im not gonna read 20 pages to find it

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Originally Posted by Guides 4 You

Guide to Achieving “God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals”

The first max title you should worry about is either legendary defender of ascalon, or the survivor title. Because technically you cannot do both (although technically it is possible...not getting into that) you should focus on just one. Survivor is the better choice because not only does it take less time, you can be progressing through the game, and through other titles whilst you do this.

mind explaining the bold part?

JONO51 · Mar 29, 2009, 12:46 PM // 12:46

there used to be a way to do both, but you cant do it anymore

Icy The Mage · Mar 29, 2009, 04:28 PM // 16:28

A Quest that gave you an item and exp as a reward, if you had a full inventory you'd accept the quest, still get the exp, but wouldn't get the item, and you could repeatedly accept the quest.

Artisan Archer · Mar 29, 2009, 05:53 PM // 17:53

you can do it with the fire imp, but it would take 14 years of playing

Guides 4 You · Mar 30, 2009, 02:19 AM // 02:19

You had no contructive critisism. I think the closest you came was:

"I think if you're going to make a guide, order out the processes to take to achieve the titles, but give multiple options on how to complete it with their respective pros and cons."

but thats about it, the rest is just complaining, and pointing out things you think are not up to your standards.

I have no doubt you can max kurz, because if you spend as much time ingame as you do QQing on these boards you should have it in no time.

I never said I was the best guide writer on these board. I never touted myself as anything special. Infact my name is Guides 4 you, yet I've only written 1 guide on these forumns.

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Again: I DID READ THE DAMN POST.

Please refraim from using foul language on my post.

Oh and yes, it used to be possible to max out both title. There have been several glitches which used to allow it (using your pet to level up monsters, transfering tomes from other characters to buy hard rezes, etc). Sadly all but 1 method have been fixed, and that one method is so cheap and probably way against the rules.

A11Eur0 · Mar 30, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Guides 4 You

You had no contructive critisism. I think the closest you came was:

"I think if you're going to make a guide, order out the processes to take to achieve the titles, but give multiple options on how to complete it with their respective pros and cons."

but thats about it, the rest is just complaining, and pointing out things you think are not up to your standards.

I have no doubt you can max kurz, because if you spend as much time ingame as you do QQing on these boards you should have it in no time.

I never said I was the best guide writer on these board. I never touted myself as anything special. Infact my name is Guides 4 you, yet I've only written 1 guide on these forumns.

Please refraim from using foul language on my post.

Oh and yes, it used to be possible to max out both title. There have been several glitches which used to allow it (using your pet to level up monsters, transfering tomes from other characters to buy hard rezes, etc). Sadly all but 1 method have been fixed, and that one method is so cheap and probably way against the rules.

I made the constructive criticism saying what I saw was wrong with the "guide", then I elaborated on those points. What do you want..."bad guide is bad"? You worded the entire guide like you were talking to a 5 year old, you assumed anyone reading it would be too "bad at the game" to actually do any of the "hard parts" by themselves. The only options you gave people for the "hard parts" were paying for runs or asking guildies for help. Psht.

I'll use any language I see fit which abides by the rules of the board. Just because you started the thread, doesn't mean you can dictate the language to be used by other members of this forum in it.

Kattar · Mar 30, 2009, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Sadly all but 1 method have been fixed, and that one method is so cheap and probably way against the rules.

There is no legal method to obtain both titles. Please refrain from spreading misinformation.

Guides 4 You · Mar 30, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

You worded the entire guide like you were talking to a 5 year old

Im begining to think that I am

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Originally Posted by Katsumi

There is no legal method to obtain both titles. Please refrain from spreading misinformation.

I didn't spread misinformation... I said theres only 1 way that I know of, and its against the rules.. *pokes your post above* I never said it was legal....

Kattar · Mar 31, 2009, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Let me rephrase: there's no way to get both titles.

Guides 4 You · Mar 31, 2009, 01:39 AM // 01:39

There is definitely 1 way, but it involves a third party program.. So yeah it's against the rules...

Zodiak · Apr 01, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49

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Originally Posted by Guides 4 You

There is definitely 1 way, but it involves a third party program.. So yeah it's against the rules...

You could use GWx2 if you had two accounts, have one die over and over to death level ennemies and rez using your other

Technically you could have one of the characters not die while the other dies repeatidly to level ennemies which you would then kill.

Using GWx2 is allowed

Guides 4 You · Apr 01, 2009, 04:41 PM // 16:41

They fixed that, as in the only rez available in pre is a rez sig... One use only, so you cant deathlevel another character and then kill the enem yourself.

DeliciousDervish · Apr 12, 2009, 10:23 AM // 10:23

I have been doing the Protector and Guardian Titles for a few months, i do not play the game a lot but i still find these the easiest to start with. After you have got those titles you will have some extra cash which you can use to help you on other titles

Zez · May 04, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Dunno if this has already been addressed, but in my honest opinion Luxon faction is MUCH easier to earn through Hero Fast Faction Farming (as that is the only place now you can HFFF). Just thought I'd point that out!

poppu16 · May 04, 2009, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Zez

Dunno if this has already been addressed, but in my honest opinion Luxon faction is MUCH easier to earn through Hero Fast Faction Farming (as that is the only place now you can HFFF). Just thought I'd point that out!

MQSC gives you 12k~~ factions in 8mins with good teams, way better than hfff...

Black Metal · May 05, 2009, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I'm at 32 titles and nearly at 34......so close to those, in fact, that I can get them just by playing regular with my nearly-seared Ranger (350 chests from treasure hunter, and 2000 or so from unlucky, which I can just get from breaking some picks playing the main storylines). This on my main, created days after launch of Proph, so never had a shot at Survivor.

Anyways, my bit of advice is trying to group together as many title grinds as possible: chest farming in HM is huge (advances lucky, unlucky, wisdom, and treasure hunter about evenly). MQSC for Luxon is awesome (hit all chests along the way). You'll max Norn, Asuran, and Ebon Vanguard while getting Legendary Master of the North (may have messed up the name of that one). I did the HM ones shortly after HM came out, and everyone was doing that; now you may have to pick them off as they are offered as Zaishen missions. Might as well do vanquishes in the same zones as Zaishen bounties. Again, hit all chests, so having a big income source to buy stacks of picks is very helpful. During weekend alc/party/sweet drops, farm those vaettirs/raptors till your eyes glaze over, esp if they are 3 pointers (at this point with most of the holidays over, you may be better suited farming trade-ins for Wintersday and Halloween).

Argentino · May 08, 2009, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Got my GWAMM title last week. Finally

Currently working on the Treasure hunter/wisdom/lucky-unlucky/Kurzick.
On my permanent pre character I'm aiming for LDOA.

jamal555 · May 13, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24

There actually is a way of getting both titles still and its pretty legal... little bending the rules but no1 could ban u for it...
with 2 pcs and 2 accounts... but it would take better part of 4 years of constant playing... so its pretty much futile...
i mean just 2 titles in 6500 hours... thats futile...

Sponge of Bob · May 20, 2009, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Currently at 26 - 27th will come tonight when I become Savior of the Luxon...

The titles puting me over the top will be Sweets, Party and Kurz ... What slowed me down a lot was thinking I should do chests while vanq silent surf for faction (yes after reading many posts here, I seemed to have farmed Luxon faction the hard way). When I stopped opening chests and donated that same gold solely to sweets title, I've hit 5k sweet point in 2.5 weeks.

Now switching to a Kurz Guild: Trail still best place to faction farm?