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ErrantVenture · Sep 11, 2011, 02:54 PM // 14:54

http://code.google.com/p/gwlp-revived-open-source/

That's the google code project page. There's currently two main developers and a bunch of minor coders helping out with little things (usually people from GR which is fully supporting this project now). If you think you can help out (or are just interested in the project) just out the project page and get involved.

ranger rothers · Sep 11, 2011, 05:18 PM // 17:18

These Open Source projects crack me up, the summary page doesn't even say what the heck this software does

ErrantVenture · Sep 11, 2011, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by ranger rothers

These Open Source projects crack me up, the summary page doesn't even say what the heck this software does

It's a project aimed at duplicating the client-server communications (including the game server and the login server) in order to make a completely customizable, private PvP environment.

zwei2stein · Sep 11, 2011, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Hey, arent theese people know for making bots and stealing/reselling accounts?

What is this thread/link still doing here?

Would anyone sane actually run it when antivirus gives you pretty damn good reason not to as it says it is bundled with trojan?

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Originally Posted by ranger rothers

These Open Source projects crack me up, the summary page doesn't even say what the heck this software does

What cracks ME up is that their MOSt important isse now is not development, but getting nice logo for project.

Anyhow, summary is simple: Hi. This is neat attempt to get people who are still interested in playing GW and propably activelly playing it to run some of our code on their computers :-). Please, do NOT forget to log in to your GW1 account very soon, ok? ^^ I hope you have lots of ecto xoxo and turn of antivirus :-*.

_rusty · Sep 11, 2011, 06:23 PM // 18:23

hi there,
believe me or not, i'm what you guys called the lead dev of gwlpr.
the project is actively continued right now.
its true that we aim for pvp instances, but we've found that pve isnt much more than that (e.g. when you implement quests and npc dialogs, you might as well record the pve data and use it with the same system)
note that we've restructured the project, which is now open source. (really

)
if you'r interested and you dont mind the moral dilemma with GR, check out the latest changes, contribute and help us!

ErrantVenture · Sep 11, 2011, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Hey, arent theese people know for making bots and stealing/reselling accounts?

What is this thread/link still doing here?

Would anyone sane actually run it when antivirus gives you pretty damn good reason not to as it says it is bundled with trojan?

What cracks ME up is that their MOSt important isse now is not development, but getting nice logo for project.

Anyhow, summary is simple: Hi. This is neat attempt to get people who are still interested in playing GW and propably activelly playing it to run some of our code on their computers :-). Please, do NOT forget to log in to your GW1 account very soon, ok? ^^ I hope you have lots of ecto xoxo and turn of antivirus :-*.

This post implies a significant degree of ignorance of what it means to be an open source project. ALL of the code in the project is freely available to anyone and everyone. To attempt to hide a trojan or other piece of malware in open source code would not only be colossally stupid, it would also be ineffective. It would take an incredibly short amount of time and effort for some competent member of the community to discover the malware, remove it, and upload a new copy of the source without the malicious code.

tl;dr It's an open source project, that means that probability of someone attempting to use it to distribute malware or steal login info is nearly nonexistent.

Turkey Baster · Sep 11, 2011, 07:08 PM // 19:08

The amount of ignorance in this thread is mind boggling.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Hey, arent theese people know for making bots and stealing/reselling accounts?

What is this thread/link still doing here?

Would anyone sane actually run it when antivirus gives you pretty damn good reason not to as it says it is bundled with trojan?

What cracks ME up is that their MOSt important isse now is not development, but getting nice logo for project.

Anyhow, summary is simple: Hi. This is neat attempt to get people who are still interested in playing GW and propably activelly playing it to run some of our code on their computers :-). Please, do NOT forget to log in to your GW1 account very soon, ok? ^^ I hope you have lots of ecto xoxo and turn of antivirus :-*.

Did you take the time to actually look through the code or even scan the archive? The author along with everyone working on the project are very trusted members who could care less about ecto because I'm sure they have a staggering amount as it is.

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Originally Posted by Bebbo

Looks like a terrible idea.

Why? To be able to run a server where everyone can start off with all pvp equiment and skills unlocked, tweak the skills to older version (i.e. Smiter's Boon) and have fun is a terrible idea? I'm glad this project is going and I fully support it. NC Soft charges $10 per skill pack and another $10 for equipment. Which is pointless.

ErrantVenture · Sep 11, 2011, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by wilebill

Link is blocked and this is against the EULA not to mention a waste of time.

This is completely incorrect. The link is not blocked. This project does not violate the EULA. Read Gaile's post on the subject below. As long as use of any private server is restricted to players who have purchased a copy of the original GW client from Arenanet, it is perfectly acceptable.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=55

Calista Blackblood · Sep 11, 2011, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Errant are you actually a developer or helper of this project?

own age myname · Sep 11, 2011, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Damn, I remember when this projected started back in '07

It is not against the EULA. Gaile said so herself.

ErrantVenture · Sep 11, 2011, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Calista Blackblood

Errant are you actually a developer or helper of this project?

Yes I've just agreed to help rusty (the primary developer) out with some of the development (to the extent of my abilities).

_rusty · Sep 11, 2011, 11:18 PM // 23:18

i dont quite get what you have done with my posts, but one question:

ErrantVenture who are you?

Silmar Alech · Sep 11, 2011, 11:18 PM // 23:18

It seems to me that this project is perfect to produce private server sandboxes to be able to develop the perfect pvp bots without the risk of being monitored and banned. And it is against the current Rules of Conduct:

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Originally Posted by Rules of Conduct

20. You will not attempt to play Guild Wars on any server that is not controlled or authorized by NC Interactive or its designees.

21. You will not create, use, or provide any server emulator or other site where Guild Wars may be played, and you will not post or distribute any utilities, emulators or other software tools related to Guild Wars without the express written permission of NC Interactive, NCsoft Europe, or NCsoft Corporation.

You may find that these rules of conduct were last modified Oct 2009, and Gaile Gray's message is dated from Oct 2007, which makes her message outdated.

martyn10011 · Sep 12, 2011, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by Silmar Alech

It seems to me that this project is perfect to produce private server sandboxes to be able to develop the perfect pvp bots without the risk of being monitored and banned.

You honestly think people would try code something like this purely to try make undetectable PvP bots? Are you absolutely mad? Why are people with absolutely zero knowledge of what is trying to be achieved making their own assumptions and looking down on projects like this?

I wish you the best of luck regardless. I'll be watching with quite a lot of interest...

ErrantVenture · Sep 12, 2011, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by martyn10011

You honestly think people would try code something like this purely to try make undetectable PvP bots? Are you absolutely mad? Why are people with absolutely zero knowledge of what is trying to be achieved making their own assumptions and looking down on projects like this?

I wish you the best of luck regardless. I'll be watching with quite a lot of interest...

Cheers mate. I continue to be boggled by the level of ignorance and willingness to judge that people have on guru. They don't seem to realize that it would involve FAR less effort to burn a couple throwaway accounts testing a bot to perfection on live servers than it would to completely recode a server from scratch based on nothing but packet logs.

zwei2stein · Sep 12, 2011, 05:19 AM // 05:19

ErrantVenture

Look, i might have been way, WAY overreacting, but i have little love or trust to botting community, so I do have to apologize: sorry.

As for opensource, i have to note that few people read code and fewer compile their own version, with majority simply downloading binaries and thinking that they, by some magic, have to be safe.

Server emulators, bots and other tools were repackaged by malicious third parties before.

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Originally Posted by own age myname

Damn, I remember when this projected started back in '07

It is not against the EULA. Gaile said so herself.

The deal was that only people with working GW accounts were allowed to use it.

She said it was against EULA, but that they will allow it to exist under this condition.

Basically, you had to validate your login to emulator server with loging to real GW.

godis · Sep 12, 2011, 06:32 AM // 06:32

Look forward to the day when I get my SF sin and 600 monk back

Spiritz · Sep 12, 2011, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Us ppl on guru have a lot at risk - we have our gw account security which is no1 concern.
There has been too many times in the past where something looks/sounds gd but turns out otherwise - so hell we`re allowed to be cautious
PPl that promote the use of bots or even have bots on website or even encourage gold selling via adverts etc on their own site , you think us public ppl would go around open armed and accept everything ?

Private servers would need some form of login and tbh just that alone sets of the alarm buttons for many of us - and you must be able to understand why.
The login would require some form of access to gw server itself otherwise you could put anything in and get chrs/inv etc - now if someone gives their gw login details and say that "gw server" that joe bloggs runs on a pc thats been compromised then those details could fall into bad hands.

End of the day its us ppl who want our accounts safe and yes were going to be cautious as hell and the feeling so far towards this project is natural so dont go blowing off at us - that itself looks dodgy.

_rusty · Sep 12, 2011, 09:18 AM // 09:18

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

The login would require some form of access to gw server itself

It doesnt. (currently)

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Server emulators, bots and other tools were repackaged by malicious third parties before.

Download from the source pages only.

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Originally Posted by _rusty

ErrantVenture who are you?

Nvm that, i know him.

Cool Name · Sep 12, 2011, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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Originally Posted by _rusty

It doesnt. (currently)

Purely out of interest can you explain how you can validate someone's account without using the guild wars servers? Or when you said 'currently' does that mean it will in the future?