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Old Apr 08, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33   #241
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Thanks for the all your help...Ascension is finally mine!!!!!
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31   #242
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ele is easy, just briing a bunch of junk from bonus proffesiions and max out fire and es and spam flare, i killed it in like 15 seconds

bonus ftw =)
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03   #243
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alternative monk method- managed on a lvl 6
retribution, ess bond, balth's spirit blessed sig, port spirit (if you have started armour- i did) healign breeze
do not attack, cycle spirit,breeze,sig, keep enchants on always
its tight but it works
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Old Apr 12, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18   #244
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For my ranger, I maxed beast mastery, dropped everything else, brought my pet with all the pet skills I had, and let my pet do all the work. I also had a vampiric bow so I could do extra damage. Was easy.

The key to the doppelganger is generally: bring a bunch of spells that don't do damage but cause him to waste time, while you beat on him with whatever else you have. Then he starts to do the same, but you have a head start. That's what I did for my warrior and ele, and I finished in around ten seconds.

This didn't work with my ranger though... the doppelganger didn't cast spirits or preparations, except for poison (that was a problem). There were probably other ones I could have tried, but when I discovered I could bring a pet, it was problem solved.
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Old Apr 12, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53   #245
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I've been fooling around with the Doppleganger out of boredom for the past few days every time I felt the need for a Ranger-fix... I don't know if you can actually put this build together without Ascending first, but I assume something similar can be put together with a bit of point-spread.

Ferocious Strike {E}
Call of Haste
Quickening Zephyr
Favorable Winds
Edge of Extinction
Winnowing
Sybiosis
Charm Animal

Beast Master: 12 ranks
Expertise: 3 ranks
Marksmanship: 9 ranks

Pretty much any max damage bow will work I guess... I used my Poisonous Storm Bow of Marksmanship because it looks wicked and I like the 13^50 and increased Marksmanship rank chance...

Skip cutscene, Hit "C" to target, spacebar to start the assault, fire off Call of Haste, hit Ferocious Strike whenever you darn well feel like it... Doppleganger drops dead in 20 seconds or less. Can't even finish setting his spirit army...

Sometimes I wonder about his AI. Is he really that stupid, or does he just pretend to be to make us overconfident and hire runners to THK?

In any case, I plan to keep killing him until he drops that super-secret uber-rare Crystalline he supposedly has .... I still laugh my ass off at that one sometimes...
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Old Apr 12, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #246
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As of last night the spirit spamming worked fine (and on a Mo/R). So I'm really unsure of what you could have done wrong. I hear that pets ARE now going with you though, I'm glad they added that even though its totally unnecessary for a ranger, lol. Too bad I didn't know about that last night, I had told my roomate that they weren't working.... oh well he still made it first time, thanks to spirits, balths aura, reversal of fortune and breeze.


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For my ranger, I maxed beast mastery, dropped everything else, brought my pet with all the pet skills I had, and let my pet do all the work. I also had a vampiric bow so I could do extra damage. Was easy.

The key to the doppelganger is generally: bring a bunch of spells that don't do damage but cause him to waste time, while you beat on him with whatever else you have. Then he starts to do the same, but you have a head start. That's what I did for my warrior and ele, and I finished in around ten seconds.

This didn't work with my ranger though... the doppelganger didn't cast spirits or preparations, except for poison (that was a problem). There were probably other ones I could have tried, but when I discovered I could bring a pet, it was problem solved.

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Old Apr 12, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #247
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warrior:use sword skills no axe it does very littledmg while you hack it to death
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Old Apr 13, 2006, 05:52 AM // 05:52   #248
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MONKS:

It seems that ur double WON'T EVER use Healing Breeze, so here's my Ascending monk build:

Healing Breeze
Zealot's Fire
Retribution

easy as that

cast Zealot's and spam Breeze. (obviously cast Retribution b4 you go in, Zealot's too)

as Dopple won't use breeze at all, you'll kill it and hopefully get the bonus too ^^
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Old Apr 13, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #249
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alternative monk method- managed on a lvl 6
retribution, ess bond, balth's spirit blessed sig, port spirit (if you have started armour- i did) healign breeze
do not attack, cycle spirit,breeze,sig, keep enchants on always
its tight but it works
Thank you very much
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Old Apr 13, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44   #250
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For an Elementalist, i sugger just bringing Obsidian Flame, Stoning and Stone Daggers. Bring also some defense... No doppleganger will ever use Obsidian Flame because of the exhaustion... So you can get all your defense skills on and then spam Stone Daggers, some Stoning and pitch Obsidian when possible. If you did exactly what i say here, you should have him killed withing 30 seconds.

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Old Apr 14, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20   #251
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Elementalist level 15, fire 13 energy 11
Bring Meteor and Flare only


35 seconds -
the doppleganger casted Meteor on me, while he casts blast him with flare, when he's done move away and cast meteor then blast him with flare, game over, instant level 20 ascended
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #252
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Some people are making warrior ascension sound too hard. Really all you need to do is bring frenzy, as stated in the first post...it helped me to bring the most useless enchantments i could find (being secondary monk), as well as things like hamstring that won't do extra damage but waste energy (you won't need to move anyway by the time you're next to it)

With my W/Mo using a sword i beat it on my first try, then went back and did it again to see if i missed anything.

Oh yeah Healing Breeze is great because the dopple will only use it to counter degen. So as long as you don't bring Sever Artery or something, it's quite useful. If you even need to heal.

And it doesn't matter what kind of skills you bring. Whether they are for sword, axe, or hammer, the dopple can still use them, and pretty effectively with 12 points in every attribute.
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00   #253
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...I like, beat him first time with my meleemancer o_O didn't even set skills.
just hammer the hell out of him/her and spam vampiric touch XD
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29   #254
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Warrior ascension..... Now let me see my skills/stats

Hammer Mastery lvl15
Strength lvl14 (16 if i feel like using my 2nd sup)

Skills:
Frenzy
Berserkers Stance
Sprint

He uses Frenzy, i use Berserkers, he dies in 7 seconds, i laugh. Sprints only there for me to use before i go in and run upto him faster.

Warrior ascension doesn't get anymore technical than that. Hell you don't even need Berserkers Stance, Frenzy works just aswell, he doesn't even get close to killing you.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51   #255
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War is very easy, Mes bring backfire and some other ones
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54   #256
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For my warrior, it was just frenzy and the two riposte skills.... just dont use frenzy..
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #257
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The easiest way to beat the doppleganger is if you are at least a little ranger.
First of all, bring TONS of spirits (Energizing wind for one). Bring some power shots for your bow, poison, interupt, and you're ready to go. First, since the doppleganger does spirits first, make that class that EW is in, lower. Max out markmanship and have no more for any other skills and that's it. When you start fighting to DG, walk as close as you can to him and he'll be doing spirits then. Put some poison and fire. Keep killing him like that but when he trys to do poison, interupt him. He doesn't hit you as hard because when you get close to him, he uses a chaos ax. The ax hits almost as much as you but not qite since you have poison on. He'll eventually die and you'll be ascended. NEVER RUN though. If you run, you'll die.
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Old Apr 18, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39   #258
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Ummm yea. Ranger ascension.


16 in Marks and a customized bow - that's all you need.


Of course, bring spirits and a bow attack. It's faster.
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Old Apr 21, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42   #259
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Originally Posted by lord of shadow
alternative monk method- managed on a lvl 6
retribution, ess bond, balth's spirit blessed sig, port spirit (if you have started armour- i did) healign breeze
do not attack, cycle spirit,breeze,sig, keep enchants on always
its tight but it works


takes awhile

but works!
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Old Apr 25, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27   #260
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Ummm yea. Ranger ascension.


16 in Marks and a customized bow - that's all you need.


Of course, bring spirits and a bow attack. It's faster.
OMG HAX!!!1!!111!!!O!! lol

Credit where it's due - well done

My most recent attempt was to see if my E/W griffon farmer could take her double with her 590 farming set. Boy was that a long fight, took a good 3-4 minutes to take her down, even with interupts on healing signet, (since she would try and do the same and inter me while i was healing...) Eventually though, I got her with crystal wave. I also ascended my W/E on my second account, but that was easy, just took ViM, bonettis and every condition i could muster easy
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