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-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Please, either merge the districts in Europe again or make everyone start out in the international district. THEN people can manually select the different language districts if they feel the urge to do so. The lack of players due to people being split up is ruining the game...

EDIT: To make my POV clear: I don't have a problem with different language districts, but I have a problem with the game forcing you to start out in the language districts. Let everyone start out in the international district and then they can manually join the other districts.

RTSFirebat · Jun 07, 2005, 09:23 AM // 09:23

This is what people wanted, so this is what people get!

A.net will never change it back I don't think.

But I do agree with making everyone start in a sort of linked together district which people can then move to others could be interesting

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 09:25 AM // 09:25

People? A narrow-minded minority who screamed out loud enough to get Anets attention?

DrSLUGFly · Jun 07, 2005, 09:27 AM // 09:27

and a small voiced majority who didn't object? Myself I like the change... it's nice to see someone other than Korea and America win the favor of the gods now. I've noticed that they win and hold on par with America and Korea now. I don't understand why people have such a problem wiht it.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 09:32 AM // 09:32

What? How can splitting up Europe possibly help people win the favor of the gods? And I see exactly the same amount of winning as before...

Finally, winning the favor of the gods is only part of the game you know. The other parts, such as questing, has been ruined.

EDIT: And the reason the majority didn't object was because the majority didn't know it was going to be changed. And the majority rather liked the way it was before, so they had no need to complain or discuss any changes...

RTSFirebat · Jun 07, 2005, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Originally Posted by -(Hyper)-

People? A narrow-minded minority who screamed out loud enough to get Anets attention?

Well I'm one of those people you speak of... I play on the US servers since I grow tired of being on server were getting items, parties and even having a chat was diffcult with about 4 different languages going off at once.

I played the first 3 days having hardly anyone to talk to and I speak for many were is very unfriendly and annyoing when you ask a question or something in English or whatever language and everyone ignores you.

Spitting them all up it kind of a quick fix but it's one needed none the less. I know loads of people who have moved from the Europen server due the issues I have discribed above.

You yourself is now a minority who wants things back to normal... don't like it? Too bad... its A.nets game and they know what their doing.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 09:37 AM // 09:37

Oh you played three days in Europe? That's quite a lot of time...

The fact is, I've had no problems with different languages uptil now, and I've been playing in Europe since GW arrived. Now I have problems getting teams though because people are scattered around the different districts. Less players = harder to do quests.

And why do you care about Europe anyway? You're playing in the US...

EDIT: Actually, I must be a one in a million wonder child since I've been speaking English all the time and have never been ignored...

Kiru Malkav · Jun 07, 2005, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Please god don't change it back. I'm still hoping that the large amounts of English players that moved to the US servers come back. Not splitting it up in the first place was what destroyed the number of players in Europe. Occasionally the non english speaking districts will raid the english districts for random Pug's, but they never seem to understand what I say, including things like "Wait, I need to recharge my energy" or "Wait, I need to swap in my res signet" and are generally coming across as unfriendly because of the language barrier. Taking a while to play with people that can understand me and that I can chat with is infanitly preferable than instantly forming a random group of people that don't talk to each other.

momo2oo2 · Jun 07, 2005, 10:15 AM // 10:15

I'm also one of those "narrow-minded" that claimed to do the change.

Don't want to keep the flaming, but I can't see why could you prefer things before the patch.

I mean, now you can switch to ANY language you can talk. Before it was a BabelTower where nobody listened because there was strange to see 2 lines in the same language. And I see positive that lots of english-speakers are coming back to Europe.

But hey, if your complains are from your language districts being unpopulated, sorry mate but that is not an A.net problem. Im Spanish, but have my game in English (primarily since Im always reading webs for info that are in English and its WAY more easy to mee; from skill names, places, etc). Ok, the spanish servers are EMPTY, yes empty; sometimes in Ascalon City you can find 10-15 people, and no talk in Beetletun or some other settlements... With this Im not saying you must play in english, Im saying you CAN go to the district you want. If you dont get people in your native language thats not something you got before the patch...

Anyway I respect your point of view (something I can't say from you

). I was just trying to make you see the change (always IMHO) is good.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Seriously, do you think the US players will come back? I doubt it...

If you only want to play with people who speak english, simply join a guild, or state it in your text. Seriously, why do the random PUGs have to be punished because some people can't deal with other languages?

The districts lack players, and it's hurting the game a lot. Usually I could get a full team for every quest, even if it was a minor one. Now I have to take henchmen with me.

The splitting of the districts is what is destroying the game.

I don't have a problem with the language districts, I have a problem with everyone starting out in their own language district. This hurts the game, because everyone is in a way forced to be seperated.

Why can't it be the other way? Start out in the international district, and if you wish you can manually move to your own language district.

Shadow_Avenger · Jun 07, 2005, 10:29 AM // 10:29

Actually the early districts are full of players, but nobody wants to group as it is easier and quicker to do it with henchmen in most cases, its not untill you get to Kryta that you find the amount of regions start to slow down alot and grouping gets trickier. I like the new system, maybe if they merged areas with less than 10 people into the international district would be the ideal solution.
Then if you cant get a group then its either that you have a bad rap or everyone has moved to the american servers.

That will be an issue in the long run, as more players emigrate to american servers as the want to try the high level maps that require favour of the gods.
Could end up with alot of players ending up on the american servers and very few on the european.

Going off topic, but they should open them maps reguardless and just have the favour of the gods increase PvE drops, i.e slightly better vs charr, and increase % drops of said upgrades, and / or increase gold drops and amount of cash merchants offer for goods as this wouldn't effect the PvP side of the game, but would help combat the migration of highend players to american servers.
The principle of GW would then be focused more on the actual guilds rather that the countries. The idea behind international guildwars is sound, but alas with language barriers and human nature it is not practical.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger

Actually the early districts are full of players, but nobody wants to group as it is easier and quicker to do it with henchmen in most cases, its not untill you get to Kryta that you find the amount of regions start to slow down alot and grouping gets trickier. I like the new system, maybe if they merged areas with less than 10 people into the international district would be the ideal solution.
Then if you cant get a group then its either that you have a bad rap or everyone has moved to the american servers.

Hmm, fine with me.

momo2oo2 · Jun 07, 2005, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger

I like the new system, maybe if they merged areas with less than 10 people into the international district would be the ideal solution.

Thats a good idea, but i would say 20 people. With 10 people you get a party and the other must take henchs.

To Hyper: If you want a party where nobody talks, makes almost everything by rushing into foes, etc, now you can do it the same as before. I see what you want to point, but since none solution is good, I find it to be better.

I have spanish friends that play in spanish districts and sometimes I go to spanish districts and sometimes they come to the english districts.

I mean, you CAN change districts. Its not like if you were constricted to your language. If you find difficult to make a party in the spanish districts, ok you go to other language district. If you before the patch couldn't talk german, neither can you now. But if before [the patch] you could do a party with germans, also can you now.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by momo2oo2

Thats a good idea, but i would say 20 people. With 10 people you get a party and the other must take henchs.

To Hyper: If you want a party where nobody talks, makes almost everything by rushing into foes, etc, now you can do it the same as before. I see what you want to point, but since none solution is good, I find it to be better.

I have spanish friends that play in spanish districts and sometimes I go to spanish districts and sometimes they come to the english districts.

I mean, you CAN change districts. Its not like if you were constricted to your language. If you find difficult to make a party in the spanish districts, ok you go to other language district. If you before the patch couldn't talk german, neither can you now. But if before [the patch] you could do a party with germans, also can you now.

The problem is, I can't. Before, people were mixed. So if I had a party of four, with one using English, one using Spanish, one using French and one using German, everyone would start using English, because we could all understand that.

Now if I travel to a Spanish district, and use English, how many will listen to me? Zero, that's how many. So, you see, the flexibility is gone.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 07, 2005, 11:50 AM // 11:50

I really don't see exactly how this could hurt the game. If there's not enough people for you to group in your language, go to another district where you understand the language or go to international. If you dont' understand another language but still want to group with them then do it.

Why would you travel to a spanish district and expect them to speak english to you? would you go to spain and expect that?

Druadan Winterblade · Jun 07, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Two friends and I moved to the American server because of the language problems there used to be. Now that the language districts are implented, we've come back and our problem is solved. We can find English-speaking players to team with much more easily, and the language barrier is all but beaten down. As a result, PvE sorties are more successful and more of them understand my pet being called 'Arsenal Sux'.

Thank you ArenaNet.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

I really don't see exactly how this could hurt the game. If there's not enough people for you to group in your language, go to another district where you understand the language or go to international. If you dont' understand another language but still want to group with them then do it.

I only speak English. There are no people in the international district, which is why I recommend the above.

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

Why would you travel to a spanish district and expect them to speak english to you? would you go to spain and expect that?

Now if you'd taken the time to properly read and understand my post and the posts before that, you would've understood that I, infact, never did go to the Spanish district, but was merely using the example to emphasize my situation.

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Originally Posted by Druadan Winterblade

Two friends and I moved to the American server because of the language problems there used to be. Now that the language districts are implented, we've come back and our problem is solved. We can find English-speaking players to team with much more easily, and the language barrier is all but beaten down. As a result, PvE sorties are more successful and more of them understand my pet being called 'Arsenal Sux'.

Thank you ArenaNet.

It's no problem getting a team if you're already playing with two friends. I'm talking about building a 6-8 player team up for a minor quest. This used to be possible most of the time but now it's very hard, because of the lack of players.

Druadan Winterblade · Jun 07, 2005, 12:28 PM // 12:28

You're right, there are fewer players around than before, but I find the difference to be minor in most cases, and noticable at the most. They are, however, all speaking my language.

-(Hyper)- · Jun 07, 2005, 12:32 PM // 12:32

The difference is minor? The player base has been split in 5 for gods sake.

Druadan Winterblade · Jun 07, 2005, 12:45 PM // 12:45

No, it hasn't been split in five. It's been segregated into five by language, bringing closer together the speakers of the different languages. Previously all the English players were still there, they were just distrbuted amongst a lot of non-English players, making it harder to find them. Now they're all grouped together into the English district.

The real statistic to watch is the number of players by language, and see how that affects the game.