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Bohr Nal · Jul 28, 2005, 12:35 PM // 12:35

I read 'em, but this idea that RPG's need to be one person pretending like they are something else is just a bit over-the-edge to me if not down right insane.

I don't dislike reality quite that much. I like fantasy but I'm still Chad and I'm still from Naples, Florida...lol...

Iceciro · Jul 28, 2005, 01:39 PM // 13:39

But some of us want to immerse ourselves in the experience of being our characters - for a few hours a day I want to be Iceciro Avant, from Lion's Arch, master of freezing my enemies and hater of Ettins, instead of Chad, from Tennessee (Yeah, my name is Chad too, how wierd!!!)

Cymboric Treewalker · Jul 28, 2005, 03:08 PM // 15:08

It is amazing the amount of people who don't grasp what roleplaying is.

It is not a form of devil worship.

It is not a way of escaping reality because a person doesn't like reality.

If you go to the movies - you are escaping reality.

If you watch TV shows - you are escaping reality.

If you read books - you are escaping reality.

Roleplaying allows you to control the story... you become the hero or heroine in the movie, book or TV show ('cept it is in a game, or with a group using PnP).

I have roleplayed since 1975 and I never once would consider myself odd, a geek, or someone who hated reality.

Frits · Jul 28, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Sorry to be an ass-hat but what excactly is the difference between normal playing and RPG playing? cause i might be interested lol

JoDiamonds · Jul 28, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Roleplaying is pretending to be someone else. In Guildwars, whatever your avatar is. There is nothing weird about it. Lots of people like pretending to be someone else, sometimes.

Most Guild Wars players speak and act as if they are the humans at the other end of a computer network; not as if they are Krenda Sol, fiery mage of great power.

In short, DrSlugFly gave a really pretty good description and example:

When someone asks, "Where are you from?", the reasonable answer is, "Ashord" or "Green Hills", not "Florida" or "Boston". Boston doesn't exist when you are pretending to be from Green Hills.

Staples of Doom · Jul 28, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Well, I'm new here, but I can tell you that I really enjoy Guild Wars.

Anyways, In response to some people saying RPer's aren't "Normal", honestly, who is normal? Aren't we all unique?

Most of us play video games to relieve stress or for something to do. I would just like to say there is no "normal' in definite terms.

So please, let people have their freedom, and lay off the conformity crap.

On the topic of an RP district, personally I think that idea is genius. Most people don't play RPG's like the name intends, they just play it as an "outsider". A district free of the "normal" people would be a blessing. But that's only my opinion

gimpysonofgroin · Jul 28, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

I play in the international districts all the time, only going into the local ones to buy runes+the other stuff from the special traders there. Why are there no rune traders in the international districts anyway? (not enough people there to buy the stuff at an overhiked price IMO)
Its not that I RP. I personally think its a tad silly. Do what you like though, you payed for the game and you don't annoy the piss out of me.
Unlike 'WTS blah blah blah, peice of garbage I found in the underworld but hopefully I can rip off some newb with it' being spammed in the regular chat channel. There is a trade channel! USE IT! (Do I sound annoyed? Its because I am)
So basically, I like the international districts for peace and quiet, henchmen are generally better than most 12-year old zit-faced losers anyway. I like the lack of lag there too. Doesn't take 30 seconds to load and its easier than moving round LA when over 1000 people are there. You can actually see the traders.

I would love to see a RP district. I think arenanet cares less and less about that aspect of the game unfortunately.

What would be even better is a few districts dedicated to morons.

emil knight · Jul 28, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker

It is amazing the amount of people who don't grasp what roleplaying is.

It is not a form of devil worship.

It is not a way of escaping reality because a person doesn't like reality.

If you go to the movies - you are escaping reality.

If you watch TV shows - you are escaping reality.

If you read books - you are escaping reality.

Roleplaying allows you to control the story... you become the hero or heroine in the movie, book or TV show ('cept it is in a game, or with a group using PnP).

I have roleplayed since 1975 and I never once would consider myself odd, a geek, or someone who hated reality.

You forgot one...

If you play a VIDEO GAME - you are escaping reality.

I'm not a RPer, but I can understand the idea. I can see the want for a place to do this, but realize that it will end up getting flooded with people trying to ruin it, since they will be able to easily find thier targets.

johnnylange · Jul 28, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

What benefit is having an RP district/town going to do? All it will be is just another area that Non-NPG'ers will come into. You have no way of keeping them out, so why bother trying to make things harder than have to be?

Paul Templar · Jul 29, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33

What will be good is if your a trader and spend most of your time as a trader then you become a trader no more fighting skills and have trader gear on that will put a stop to it
:P

Mavrik · Jul 29, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43

I'm going to have to go into the international districts then and join the RP cause I LOVE RP and write RP all the time on forums.

UberRusty · Jul 29, 2005, 02:20 AM // 02:20

This is a topic waiting to be closed due to unnecessary flames and hostility.

Staples of Doom · Jul 29, 2005, 02:22 AM // 02:22

I don't see flames or hostility, it's not like it's getting out of hand. It's healthy arguement, where everyone is debating their point. Maybe the choice of words could be better, but it's not personal, at least it doesn't seem that way.

Willow · Jul 29, 2005, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Johnny- I don't think the RPers are trying to keep other people out. Rather, they're trying to attract more publicity for what many people already do.

And I suspect some of them may feel a twinge of guilt about taking the International District- they want that to be for people genuinely trying to do international play.

I guess the best analogy I can come up with is this: suppose there was a segment of players (let's use the hypothetical 5%) that wanted to do Signet of Capture runs as their primary source of play- and they pretty much only wanted to do this with each other. (And outsiders didn't want to group with them. Which is true, if you've ever had someone drop on you after getting their skill captured.)

So in this situation, I don't think a "Capture Run District" would be particularly unreasonable- a nice way for people who want to play the game one way to get together, without having to infringe on anyone else who doesn't know what they're getting into.

If I see two people trying to have a conversation about Ascalon's pre-searing security policies, I'm likely to think good for them for doing their own thing. But there's lots of people who will say "OMGORZ PLAY THE GAME YOU NOOBS"

Ellington · Jul 29, 2005, 03:47 AM // 03:47

One thing that just came to mind...I think possibly it's better having International 1 as an unofficial RP district. An official district might well attract more trolls than RPers.

johnnylange · Jul 29, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58

If you kids must have a official "Role Playing" town then why not just make it at your guild hall? (you do have one of those don't you?) At least you wouldn't have to worry about "non-role players" invading...

Kiiron · Jul 29, 2005, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Unfortunately, a guild hall doesn't make a good RP "town" since only your guildies can come. What if you want to invite someone else or just meet some new people?

Avantos · Jul 29, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Example of roleplaying from another game, long and convoluted, as can be expected from diplomatic prattle, but take from it what you will (do note none of this was preplanned and was spur of the moment... just as the rest of this particular game was):

Start logging: 15.12.2003 21:05
You tell Isabeau 'Ah, Duchess Isabeau, I believe De... an avian of your Royal House informed you that I wished to speak with you?'

[51 Elf HER] [VALMIRAN Duchess(E)] ($) [Female] Isabeau Shrythara the Chosen of Compassion, Possessor of the Ancient Memory
Players matched: 1

[HP:689/689 MN:591/632 MV:402/402]
<15149gold 19764xnt 8hour 539gems> sc
/---------------\/----------------------------------------------\
| Llyorid || Lord of MIRUVHOR |
\---------------/\----------------------------------------------/
| Str: 21(21)^5 || Level: 44 Sex: M Age : 21(72h) |
| Int: 20(20) || Class: dark-knight Ethos: lawful |
| Wis: 20(20) || Race : human Align: evil |
| Dex: 20(20)^6 || Hp : 689/689 Exp : 19764/401796 |
| Con: 19(20) || Mana : 591/632 |
\ Lck: [|||---] \/ Move : 402/402 +Hit: 22 +Dam: 19 /
/---------------/\------------------/\--------------------------\
| ARMOR || SAVES || Deity : Mhalador |
| Slash : -182 || Spell : -1 || Faith : Combat |
| Pierce: -180 || Afflictive : -5 || Weight: 369/410 |
| Blunt : -205 || Maledictive: -7 || Items : 28/36 |
| Magic : -122 || Mental : -5 || Prac : 4 Train: 0 |
| || || Gold : 15k CP: 539 |
\---------------\/------------------\/--------------------------/
/ Condition: You are in the prime of your health. \
| You are ready for a cabal promotion. |
\---------------------------------------------------------------/
[HP:689/689 MN:591/632 MV:402/402]
<15149gold 19764xnt 8hour 539gems> eq
Llyorid is using:
<used as light> (Glowing) (Humming) a Translucent Combat Lantern
<worn on finger> (Glowing) a nice looking ring
<worn on finger> an onyx ring
<worn around neck> a dark black cloak
<worn around neck> a teeth necklace
<worn on head> a Consumed Helm
<worn on ear> the earrings of Solace
<worn on torso> (Glowing) (Humming) the Blackguard Fullplate of Miruvhor
<worn on arms> a pair of blackguard vambraces
<worn on legs> a beautiful set of blackguard greaves
<worn on feet> (Glowing) boots of protection
<worn about body> a silver scabbard
<worn about waist> a leather bandit belt
<worn around wrist> (Humming) a titanium bracer
<worn around wrist> (Humming) a titanium bracer
<wielded> (Glowing) the Solar Mace
<worn on face> (Glowing) a black veil
<floating nearby> (Glowing) a winged earth dragon

Isabeau tells you 'I seem to recall that yes.'

You tell Isabeau 'Aye. Is there somewhere I can meet you? Preferably less public than the central square of Val Miran?'
Isabeau tells you 'I can come anyplace you wish to nominate.'
Isabeau tells you 'Perhaps Aruncus?'
You tell Isabeau 'Aye. I shall be there soon then.'

[HP:689/689 MN:532/632 MV:291/402]
<14849gold 19764xnt 13hour 542gems> whe[KNIGHT] controlled. Players near you:
<PK> Llyorid The holy grove
Isabeau The holy grove

You bow deeply.
Isabeau nods.
Isabeau says 'How are you.'
You say 'Duchess Isabeau, a pleasure.'
Isabeau smiles happily.
You say 'Well enough... considering the circumstances.'

[HP:689/689 MN:545/632 MV:309/402]
<14849gold 19764xnt 14hour 542gems> [51 Elf HER] [VALMIRAN] ($) Isabeau Shrythara the Chosen of Compassion, Possessor of the Ancient Memory
Players matched: 1
There are 41 characters on, the most on since startup was 70.
The title of Master Questor of Aabahran is currently held by Athraeil.

You say 'I have come to discuss a few issues.'

Isabeau says 'Is Buttaugk a threat to you'
You say 'Nay.'
Isabeau nods.
You say 'Even if he was, I doubt he would attack me.'
You chuckle politely.
Isabeau says 'Go ahead.'
You say 'Aye. I believe you know the suspicions of the late Patriarch Namaste of Rheydin?'
Isabeau says 'Suspicions?'
Isabeau says 'You best repeat them.'

You say 'He was rather vocal of them and I heard them voiced while I was a Consort.'
You say 'Aye.'
You say 'He suspected, and I do as well, that the Band of Light that you had founded was more than it outwardsly seemed.'
You say 'Am I correct in this, Duchess?'

Isabeau frowns wonderingly.
Isabeau says 'Erm '
Isabeau says 'No, I dont think so.'
Isabeau says 'How does it appear outwardly.'

You say 'As simply a gathering of those who walk the Light to a common group.'
You say 'I imagine it has more martial import, though.'

Isabeau gives you Charter of the Band of Light by Scholar Livana Arianwen.
You nod.

Isabeau says 'That is what we are if you wish to read it.'

You say 'I heard of this being written. However... in any case, I am asking, has import on that, but only in passing.'
You say 'I believe you met the Demon Kefuquus, am I not right?'

Isabeau sits down and thinks deeply.
Isabeau says 'Ohh yes.'

You say 'I did as well. And it was a less than pleasant experience.'
Isabeau shudders at the horror and represses tears.
You grimace painfully at the thought.

Isabeau says 'Aye '
Isabeau sits down and rests.

You say 'In any case, if you have any belief that Miruvhor likes the demon any more than Val Miran does, let me dispel those now.'
You say 'The demon is unlike any that has come forth before.'
Isabeau nods.
You say 'He will not leave Miruvhor unscathed in his coming.'
You say 'I asked about the Band of Light...'
You say 'Because I wonder if the Band possesses any... weapons, or relics to fight demons of this sort?'
You say 'You can imagine, Miruvhor has none.'

Isabeau says 'Aye, we have two divisions within the band'
You nod.
Isabeau says 'We are one of faithfull and one of defenders.'
You nod.
Isabeau says 'But as to relics we have but ourselves and our faith '

Isabeau says 'We have however been told by Lord Luqin.'
Isabeau says 'That the only way to defeat the demon'
Isabeau says 'Will be if we can gather the entire world in common cause.'
Isabeau sighs.
Isabeau says 'This is most difficult as you can imagine '

Llyorid sighs and considering something for a moment.
Llyorid mutters something about implications.

Isabeau says 'As there are many many different ideals to mesh.'

Llyorid kneels before Isabeau and holds his sword up in his hands to Isabeau.
Isabeau says 'But I would welcome Miruvhor.'

You say 'I pledge upon myself, that I will join you if you are to defeat the demon.'
You say 'I cannot speak for Miruvhor in this, but I speak for myself.'

Isabeau says 'And I would wish we could find common ground even if only on this one issue.'
You nod.
Isabeau says 'Ahh you wish to see if we win first ?'
Isabeau smiles happily.

You say 'No.'
Llyorid stands straight.

You say 'I repay debts, and I owe one both to Kefuquus and Moleran.'
Llyorid narrows his eyes.

________

If I could have even a fraction of a similar experience in Guild Wars, I would personally welcome it.

Lagg · Jul 29, 2005, 08:04 AM // 08:04

An RPG district is a catastrophe of non-RPG'ers coming to question everyone's sexuality just waiting to happen. I know I will, even though I'm myself guilty of enjoying a good roleplaying session now and again.

In essence, Guild Wars is hardly the most inviting game to roleplay in. Sure, it's a fantasy setting, but that doesn't make it an RPG. Cooperative fantasy action/adventure is what it should be called. Of course, the "RPG" appellation boosts sales. Might as well roleplay in Quake.

"Pray tell, good sir, dost thine rocket gibbeth the foul Knights of Infernus with zealous fastidiousness?"

Anyway, I'd suggest to keep roleplaying a thing for within a willing party and mostly outside of towns. For your own sake and enjoyment.

shady_knife · Jul 29, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnylange

95% don't role play, eh? Ok, all of you that think we need role playing towns, districts, what ever... need to just stop. These ideas aren't cool and they aren't necessary. Play the game like regular, some what normal people!

go home you closed minded person.

i don't role-play, i couldn't be bothered, but if people do want to role play, thats fine let them have there own districts.

in role play i gather its like you talk as though you aren't playing a game

Role Play Version
eg. "Hello, im looking for a sword, can i see your selection?"
"yes, here you go"

Normal Version
eg "<><><> SELLING SWORD FOR 40k!!!!!! BUY NOW VERY GOOD SWORD, YOU MUST HAVE THIS SWORD OTHERWISE YOU ARE NOOB!!!! <><><>"