Curse

Racthoh · Aug 10, 2005, 09:03 AM // 09:03

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Originally Posted by Maltare

Skill Name: Nature's Renewal
Description: Create a level 5 Spirit. For creatures within range, all "Enchantments" and "Hexes" are removed. For 60 seconds, Enchantments and Hexes take twice as long to cast. This Spirit dies after 60 seconds. (50% Chance of Failure with Wilderness Survival of 9 or less.)
Energy Cost: 5
Casting Time: 5
Recharge Time: 60 seconds
Skill Type: Nature Ritual
Linked Attribute: Wilderness Survival

Nothing preventing a ranger with an extra set of gear giving +4 to WS. Only problem I see with that suggestion. It would prevent the secondary ranger from using it though so it would be a nice improvement.

Why not just lose half their enchantments, or one enchantment?

Maltare · Aug 10, 2005, 09:16 AM // 09:16

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Nothing preventing a ranger with an extra set of gear giving +4 to WS. Only problem I see with that suggestion. It would prevent the secondary ranger from using it though so it would be a nice improvement.

Why not just lose half their enchantments, or one enchantment?

What's the only problem? I don't understand

Maltare · Aug 10, 2005, 09:18 AM // 09:18

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Originally Posted by Rey Lentless

The other spirits don't have a repeatable effect. You don't put down 2 fertile seasons to get twice as many hitpoints, you put it down and if there are any others.. it's just covering for the first spirit if it's taken down. So no, none of the other spirits have a repeatable immediate effect.

There's no reason NR should either. The balance should come in the amount of time added to cast times. It should remove nothing.

With my build of NR it makes it so that you can easily kill it off, thus making the double cast time less effective. Also, the initial effect would still stand, but you can't spam it without oath shot or 2 spirit spammers due to the 50% chance to fail with 9 WS or less.

Como Fort · Aug 10, 2005, 09:41 AM // 09:41

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That or you could just make NR Elite so you can't spam it with Oath Shot... I mean, really: Greater Conflagration is near useless unless in specific builds, and isn't as good by any measure, and it's elite.

Conflag is nowhere near useless, and it is a very good skill. If you can use it to your advantage, which you can quite easily if you are clever with your builds, then you will see how, when combined with another few tricks, can make you near enough invincible.

Timoz · Aug 10, 2005, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

That or you could just make NR Elite so you can't spam it with Oath Shot... I mean, really: Greater Conflagration is near useless unless in specific builds, and isn't as good by any measure, and it's elite.

No where near useless if you know how to use it, it wouldn't be an elite unless it had its place in specific builds as an extremely useful skill.

If people do actually figure how to use this.. you'll see a lot more of it.

As for this thread, um, did you actually search for other threads of its type on this forum? be honest here.

Dan Mega · Aug 10, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Mods, this is a repeat thread. Why are the only threads in regards to NR that are closed, are the ones that are against nerfing it? I have posed this question several times and I have also sent multiple private messages, with no responses.

Please close this thread. The Nature's Renewal STRATEGY is destroying the top '1337' teams. Just because many players aren't good enough at the game to stop it doesn't mean it should be nerfed or we should have 3 dozen posts on it.

Hell Marauder · Aug 10, 2005, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Best way to defeat spirit spamming? Target rangers first, instead of that old boring targeting default: casters, then necro/rangers, then tank. And avoid using hex/enchantment until rangers are eliminated. And yes, NR should still be made an elite skill due to its power. I for one would really like to see everyone's pvp target priorities change once a while.

NR is there to make warriors and rangers with their simple physical attack more relevant, any nerfing may tip balance to casters side and given so many threads talking about useless warriors, it may not be a good idea to nerf any aspect of NR.

michaeldt · Aug 10, 2005, 02:51 PM // 14:51

the spirit should simply fail if the player doesn't have more than 8 for that particular attribute