Curse

Tactical-Dillusions · Aug 19, 2005, 01:57 AM // 01:57

The one thing that ticks me off is when you change secondary, you can't have the skills for that secondary, even if you have already unlocked them on your account by a different character.
Why not?

Why can't i be allowed to change my W/Mo to a W/R and get all the ranger skills that my RANGER unlocked previously?
It's pointless grind aimed at those who like to practice builds.

I want to be able to have all skills accross my account when i change secondary...not grind for 1000 skill points or whatever.

Example, earlier i changed my Mo/W to a Mo/Me and went straight to the ring of fire (again) to cap my last elite.
A member of the team was screaming at me to use backfire on a monk boss and i had to tell him i only had 4 skills unlocked with that character.
Sucks bad.

-malachi- · Aug 19, 2005, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Exactly, it would be nice if all unlocked skills would be available to all characters who ascend and do the switch secondaries quests. It would prevent from having to grind through the game..again, when all you want to do is play as a n/mo instead of a n/e. However any skills unlocked through faction should not be available to any pve characters.

emil knight · Aug 19, 2005, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by juice5/O

you are the troll, troll. isn't it enough that you nance your way through these forums like your ideas are the only ones worth discussion and no one else's idea is worthy of even the slightest discourse. i'm sorry, i forgot this was the game you programmed and not Anet. go ahead then, stifle any and all analysis. make sure to silence all dissenters in your clandestine effort to portray guildwars to be the perfectest "out of the box game" ever. the fact of the matter is you slam every thread's basic idea to the point that other members barely respond to your own threads because they are afraid being picked apart by your fuzzy logic.

four threads, only two even got responses... time to get an attitude adjustment buster. maybe then people will want to talk to you... maybe.

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Originally Posted by juice5/O

Knights of Virginity... assemble

You post that... and you call me a troll? Show me a spot ANYWHERE in this forum where I've posted something like THAT.

People come here to post thier ideas and ask for opinions. I gave mine. What the designers decide to do with the ideas posted here is up to them. Hey, they may even go with some of these ideas. In most cases, from what I've seen, these ideas wouldn't work for various reasons, which I point out in each thread.

This game is not the "most perfect game out of the box", but the ideas the I've shared my opinions on in this forum are hardly things ANet would even consider. Adding a new "uber l33t armor" because it "would be cool" is hardly something a developer would even give the slightest moment of thought too. LOGIC tells ANYONE that. I don't have to be a program writer to know "because it would be cool" is bad reasoning. At times I've even praised people's ideas... some of them ARE good ones, and I'm not the only one who has said so.

Besides that, I'm not the only one who hasn't gotten my threads answered. It doesn't really bother me that no one has, and I'm sure at some point someone will suggest the same things. nad what difference does it make anyway how many threads I've created and how many got answered? Ever stop to think that maybe another topic was hotter at the time and mine didn't get noticed? Half the people here don't even look past the top of the first page, I'm betting and I'd guess about as many don't bother to search for topics related to what they may already be about to post. And look... you've made two posts on this whole forum, both in this thread, in a pathetic effort to slam me... and completely ignoring the OP. Where are your ideas? I'd like to see what your "perfect vision" of Guild Wars would be. You haven't even offered YOUR suggestion to this OP.

You need to figure out what a true "troll" is before you accuse others of doing it. Singling a person out and making nasty comments about them is trolling. Offering opinions LIKE THEY ASKED FOR is not.

Until you have something worth replying to... something CONSTRUCTIVE rather than another barb aimed towards me, I will be IGNORING your posts.

-malachi- · Aug 19, 2005, 03:54 AM // 03:54

way of topic guys, lets just create a thread for emil and juice to hate eachother in. I just want to know if anyone else would agree that some other form or way of changing secondaries would be a nice idea to prevent from grinding through the game again just to get a more full secondary proffesion.

So far we've had

Option A: All unlocked skills available to characters who switch there proffession once they ascend

Option B: Allow you to gather more skills for your switched secondary but not unlock them for pvp.

Anything else? And I would like to have the pros/cons of these and anyother ideas disscussed, instead of slamming eachother, and having "fun" with quotes ( and emil we all know how you feel about this already, no need to expound my friend).

emil knight · Aug 19, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Ok, to get back on topic how about this suggestion:

You get to switch you secondary and can go back and do all the side quests that rewards skills again, BUT you lose all of the skills of your previous profession for that PvE guy. You'd still get the unlocks, but you wouldn't have this massive amount of skills at your disposal (which you really don't/shouldn't need if you are switching) and you wouldn't have to spend a ton of skill points because you would only have to buy the ones you couldn't get from a quest.

-malachi- · Aug 19, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05

also a fairly acceptable idea, it is very possible to get many skills from simply doing many of the quests, however anet wont let you do most of the advanced quests (any thing after Yaks Bend I couldn't find a quest to give skills for my second secondary class) Wouldn't mind it though, much less of a grind then doing FoW/UW 1million times.

emil knight · Aug 19, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by -malachi-

however anet wont let you do most of the advanced quests. Wouldn't mind it though, much less of a grind then doing FoW/UW 1million times.

When you do most of the skill quests the first time around they usually give you a skill from both prefessions. Not all but most. All it would take is for them to allow the quests that do offer secondary skills to be repeatable once you accept a new secondary.

If they did it this way, I'd give those quests another run myself just for the heck of it... I did enjoy alot of them.

-malachi- · Aug 19, 2005, 04:31 AM // 04:31

to my knowledge, and I did check all towns and outposts, there are very few one proffesion only quests. And all of the quests where you get one skill from both proffesions are not available once you do them the first time even if you switch secondaries. I would be fine with doing more quests just for one proffesion to unlock a decent amount of skills and be able to have some options. Fine with them letting me slave away in FoW.UW if I just HAVE to have them all or something. By all means let me work somewhat for it, just don't make have to spend 24/7 leveling to get a few skills.