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Old Jul 13, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #141
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Am I the only one that noticed the OP was banned?
I regard this entire topic as useless...but post as you will.
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Old Jul 13, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #142
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if i admit i'm a smiter, i almost always get booted. so now i play monk/ninja.

its too easy to get money in GWs. i can basically buy anything i want with just doin the missions.

ever notice noobs don't go to the next town then do the quest. like dukes daughter can be done better from courthouse then piken...

little thom is fat & stupid. Stefan is brave.
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Old Jul 13, 2005, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #143
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There is no way and no how screw up a henchmen. Henchnmen do their own stuff and they have their own A.Is. You can't make the henchmen do anything they don't want so can stop with the other player must be messing her up. Henchmen respond how they were program.

I have peronsal eye witness account of Alesia healing when other team members were around 50% or below health. She wouldn't res until other team members until she was near death, she has no condition or hex removers, which is why she die fast when their a npc mesmer in the group. The list goes on and on.

I BET you right now if I went my other forum and post about a topic about what's wrong with Alesia, they would name a good number of reasons why she is unreliable. So yes, their opinion matter, you are wrong and nothing can be applied vice versa. If you lack of trouble it probably has to do with your class as I find certain player classes have a hard time keeping their hencmen alive. (A monk has a better chance of keeping his henchmen alive than a warrior)

Again.. what the hell does some other forum and posts have to do with what I can manage? And sorry if you flat out dont believe me. But you can mess up with henchmen. If you know how to handle the henchmen they wont screw you. And Ive played the game from Ascalon to Hells with NPCs with Warrior, Mesmer, and Necro.
And I never said anyones opinions didnt matter. I said it didnt make mine moot. And that your dissregarding the possibility that they may be doing something wrong. Henchmen are AI as you stated, thus easily predictable, so I always know how they will react. Same can be said of the Monsters in the game.
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Old Jul 13, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59   #144
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I have to say that even though I don't agree with Captain Guru and Garric, they are at least civil.
*sigh* only in a free country would we equate idiocy with civility. it's funny that a person who is starting a thread on a subject which has already been discussed ad nauseum would be seen as "civil". As most of the issues "presented" here have been addressed in one way or another by the many free patches, it's hard to imagine what more a company like ANET could do. i mean the last i heard it was a free mmo and ANET (aside from bug fixes) has no real obligation to put any more new content in. The bottom line is of course that the majority of ppl are more than satisfied with the way things are and don't spend their lives posting moronic, insipid, and irrational messages to the chagrin of others.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #145
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And I don't think I'll be getting an expansion pack. This might be a long post so bear with me.

First I'll start out what's good about this game: No montly fee. This is great, because when I quit this game, I won't have wasted more money than I should have. Skill based. There are no potions or instant spells that own everyone. There's a lot of skill involved. Good gfx, nuff said. No PVP ganking. I can go do an area or mission without being ganked by a guy 10 lvls higher than you calling you a noob and killing you with one hit.

But this game has some very serious flaws that some people need to consider, many things that are wrong with this game, things that are built into the game and can not be fixed.

The Worst Community Ever

Imagine World of Warcraft, except worse. Since there's no montly fee, it attracts a lot of "cheap skates" if you will. Those lamers that played Diablo II all the way from 2001 to 2005 are now here. I can't stand this community, especially the guilds. I have so many stories that are quite funny, but make me cry on the inside.

One time I was doing a mission, half of the people were in a guild, 2 of them were not. We got to the very end of the mission, and one of the guys was aggroing groups and just wasting time, so I told him to "please stop". One of his guild mates was holding a crystal that you needed to finish the mission, and told me to "say 'I want to suck <name>'s balls' or we won't finish the mission for you". Ofcourse I wouldn't say something like that, resigning to a 12 year old. Lucky for me, there was also a countdown timer, and they held the crystal and wouldn't finish the mission, wasting 20 minutes before he finally ran the crystal in.

One time I was doing a mission, also one with a guild, me being the only one without a guild. One guy had a vampiric sword, and they told me to switch all of my elementalist skills out for monk skills before the mission started so I could heal them. I asked him to switch out the vampiric sword because I had to heal him in middle of peaceful walks. He then said "everyone go to the guild channel", then they told me that they were all AFK. I told them that I was sorry and that we should just finish the mission because I didn't want to waste another second of my time like I did in the previous mission, and they taunted me calling me a noob and other names, but thankfully they did finish the mission.

Not to mention all of the monks that don't want to rez you because "you should have run away instead of just standing there", Warrior Monks that just run into fighting, people that scam you in channels, flame you when you don't want to sell your item for a cheaper price, flame you and say "I can sell the same item 2wice as cheap", people who draw a penis on the minimap all the time, that spam radar bleeps. People who leave the mission or quest when things don't go their way, people who leave the mission then flame you when you don't give them an ebon spider leg the spider dropped for you, etc.

Sure, they may be a small minority, but there hasn't been a day when I haven't argued with some 12 year old because of one of the above reasons.

Monk Class Flaws

Monks. Everyone wants one, no one wants to be one. You need a monk later in the game to finish any mission, since if you don't have one, it will probably be too hard. This is a huge imballance in the game, giving monks too much power. If you are a monk, all it takes is "LFG monk" and you will get 10 group invites.

Most monks I've grouped with are totall jackasses. Granted, if I played a monk and heard "Heal me" or "rez me" or "why din't you raize me noob" every 5 seconds, I would probably turn into an asshole too. But when monks don't raise you and say "you will respawn in the cinematic" or say "I was raising you already, but since you asked me to rez you I'm not going to do it now" or deliberately not healing you because you pissed them off somehow, it gets to be just stupid. Monks have too much power. It's like a handicapped person that bosses you around, and if you tell them to stop you are shunned since they are handicapped.

I understand that being a monk is a tedious job, and this is why this a game ballance issue that I do not see being fixed unless they take the monk out of the game, and give every class suitable healing.

Huge Grind

This game promised to be a grind free game, with the lvl 20 cap easily achieved by others. My ass. This game has a lot of grind, and it is very tedious to level up. Also, to boot, levels don't even give you that much of a bonus.

If you just do missions and quests, without grinding, you will find yourself out leveled. Monsters don't give enough XP, and travelling with mercenaries is slow and boring. Most monsters you meet take a long time to kill (unlike in Diablo II where you could cut a monster open with a click of a button.) Infact, fighting a group of 3 devourers takes maybe :30 to kill all of them with a group full of mercenaries, gaining you only 10-20 XP.

Anyone who denies that this game is not a grind is kidding themselves. All of the quests require you to walk into some location for what seems to be miles. Areas are not randomized, so you will be walking around a lot through areas you have already been in finishing quests.

About half way through the game I became bored, doing missions not because they were fun, but because they would advance me through the game.

Even the easiest of quests require you to kill a horde of monsters that you have already killed in previous quests. It took me 57 hours to reach LVL 20 on my first time through the game (Hopefully it will be my last), and I'm only around ~3/5ths done.

Too Difficult

As a LVL 20 E/Mo it took me about 7 tries just to get to an Ascention mission. Hydras in the desert in groups of 3s that cast meteor and then fire ball 3 times on you kill you in less than 10 seconds. My group ran through most of the fights because it would take over an hour to fight through, thanks to areas being spaced out so much.

Unless you get a ballanced group, missions become very difficult and time consuming. Combine this with a lame community that loves to rush in and fight mobs

If you all die in a mission, you have to restart the mission. Missions usually take at least 30 minutes, and unless you do it with henchmen you have to do it all in one try.

Guilding

It cost a lot of money to do any guild based things. I thought it was really expensive to get capes, until I realized that sigils are going for 50k. 50k. That's a lot of money. Unless you farm (I heard you can get 2k every 30 minutes of farming. BLEH) that's really expensive. I play with my friends only and I don't want to invite 30 people into my guild. So for a group of 7, its a big pain in the ass to get a Guild Hall, something that seems so basic for a game titled "Guild Wars".

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I was walking home and thinking about the things wrong with this game, but I'm just going to stop this. I'm sure you can think of tons of things wrong with this game, and I must have only half of what I was going to write.

I will finish this game, frankly because I still have some fun with it. Even with all these faults it's a good game. But I'm not going to get an expansion pack, and I doubt that I will bother with making a 2nd character.

People really need to consider these points.

I'll pay you 5 plat to leave GW.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #146
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Ugh, oh how I hate talk to people like you. Name me another good RPG that forces you to do EVERY quest by walking 10 miles into the desert, fighting the same enemies (Since the map isn't a random map.). Those fights are tedious and boring, you've done them already, except now you have to do it again since you have to do a quest. I'm not saying make all the quests easy, I'm saying that the quests are stupid, repetative, wastes of time, since you must do the same thing in them (kill, find, bring back.). As if the devs specifically made the world huge just so they could stick in a bunch of quests that forced you to go as far as you could in different directions from town so you could "explore the map". Let me tell you, me, and all of my friends, after a week of playing, didn't want to "do" the quests anymore since they were so stupid and long, so we just ran to the green dot on the screen to get XP and skills.
Firstly, the "every" part is a bit of a generalisation. Secondly, I could name many, but since you are banned, I won't. Thirdly, PRAISE BE TO THE MOD WHO BANNED YOU!
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 01:57 AM // 01:57   #147
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Again.. what the hell does some other forum and posts have to do with what I can manage?
I'm sorry, I messed the meeting where they said your opinion is more valid over everyone's? Arguement is not all or nothing agreement. If your point of view on a matter is wrong or overwhelmed by a unimious that don't make everyone else's view wrong. Childish and very narrow minded of you to do so. This is what a troll is, making arguements with no logical reason. You argue for the sake of arguing and this what you are doing.

And just incase, nobody is calling a liar about your experience, but as the past post have proven, henchmen are more unreliable than reliable.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 02:03 AM // 02:03   #148
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*sigh* only in a free country would we equate idiocy with civility. it's funny that a person who is starting a thread on a subject which has already been discussed ad nauseum would be seen as "civil". As most of the issues "presented" here have been addressed in one way or another by the many free patches, it's hard to imagine what more a company like ANET could do. i mean the last i heard it was a free mmo and ANET (aside from bug fixes) has no real obligation to put any more new content in. The bottom line is of course that the majority of ppl are more than satisfied with the way things are and don't spend their lives posting moronic, insipid, and irrational messages to the chagrin of others.
Again, I will say this. ANet is not God, if they stop updating, threw temptarums like you guys or any of the above, they would lose their business. They don't have time off as I said. They have to constantly come up with new ideas and new ways to entertain the average players because they are other mmorpgs out there coming up with new idea to make the gameplay even better. If you believe GW is the king RPGs then you are sadly deluded. They are up and coming gaming companies and old companies making new game to steal players from other MMORPGs and if ANet stop everything because of insult, they would again lose business. So stop talking about subjects you know little about.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 01:52 PM // 13:52   #149
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The one that needs upgrading is Dunham. No good skills at all. Does anyone use him?
I agree, dunham has more issues than the other henchmen, I go with him, I dont even have an enchantment, he is an enchanter isnt he?
Aleisa is okay, but she gets stuck too much, and when I realize I'm not getting healed, I see her getting stuck by signpost in Breech a lot.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06   #150
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If you believe GW is the king RPGs then you are sadly deluded. They are up and coming gaming companies and old companies making new game to steal players from other MMORPGs and if ANet stop everything because of insult, they would again lose business. So stop talking about subjects you know little about.
dude what? your statement is ill-informed at best and incoherent at worst. we all want a better game but a company like ANET must take a practical approach by disregarding the childish behavior (threads like these) and focusing on what really matters to the majority of players. insults don't help a company. clear, well thought out suggestions do. this is a democracy. your are free to play another game if GW doesn't suit your taste. Dungeon Siege II is coming in the fall, best you wait 'til then.
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Old Aug 02, 2005, 04:50 AM // 04:50   #151
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Heh...reading through this thread was quite amusing! But since the original poster is banned, I guess there's no point of flaming him then.
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Old Aug 02, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56   #152
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Wow. I think you are lying. I've never had ANY of these problems.


I just think your personality sucks to the point that people want to eff with you.




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Old Aug 02, 2005, 05:20 AM // 05:20   #153
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I have to chuckle about the speed of leveling. Heck I think we (I) level too dang fast. I wanted to stay level 15 for a longggggggg time and play in the Yaks Bend PVP arena cause I knew it would be awhile before I'd be ready for the lvl 20 PVP arena and heck I leveled out of it in a days play. ;(

I say slow leveling down, less XP, dang it should take at least 30 days to make level 20, and I guess it could if I just stayed around Old Ascalon area, but, the PVE game itself just gives you XP like it was candy from the Missions and then just adventuring through the zones. There was like a 4000XP quest, forget which one it was, but, bajebus, that's a lot of XP for a mere lowbie level quest. And the missions heck give you 2000 XP a pop sometimes more if you do bonuses. Too much XP, needs "nerfing".
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Old Aug 02, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27   #154
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I LOVE being a Monk. Monks are definitely one of the best and most fun classes in the game. Its very rewarding to keep your whole party alive while they're being pelted and they're on the brink of death until your Word heals them. Its so cool!
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Old Aug 03, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12   #155
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it just seems like u need a game where u can set the lvl to easy. This game is challenging and rewarding. Sure it took me about 8 trys to find a decent party and do "Thirsty River" but when i finished i got 2000 xp, a ton of happiness, and finished the last of the 3 missions required 4 ascention.

ur just a stupid sore loser

EDIT: I may be 12 years old but i don't spam or draw shit on the map. U never know if that was a 30 year old hobo living with his mom, lol.

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Old Aug 03, 2005, 10:40 PM // 22:40   #156
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really there is no grind on lvling you just not using the right method. you can get ascended and lvled to 20 in 1 day easily. not to mention the best weapons, sheilds, and armor can be bought from collectors or merhcants. i've seen swords that went for 300k that i can get sword from collector and might spend a few plat (if even that since +hp doesn't compare to +5 armor for 500g) for the upgrades. all the grind of the game has pretty much been removed you just don't know about it.

sorry about your guild experiences but you have to remember that it is a free game that will attract people with no brains and since the game is heavily strategy that can cause problems. on another note i had the same problems and you know what i did to solve it.....I made my own guild. its the bs of other people and if you don't like them boot their asses.

don't know about scammers because if you got scammed its probly because you fell into knowing it could be a scam in the first place. rules of thumb never buy an item unless there is a screen shot or its in the trade box. never pay for a run unless you are at a town. love the guys that make you pay at snakes for drok runs. gives me my laugh for the day.

i do see monks being played by inexperinced players many times that while my hp is at 10% they are healing that guy that's at 90%. its the backlash of any game with healers. they will always be a problem but you can't just make people smart cause they play with that class. i'm a monk and i NEVER carry res. i do use divine intervention and if you died its probly your own stupid fault.

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Old Aug 04, 2005, 01:36 AM // 01:36   #157
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Wow I made it before the lockdown. I got as far as No Community, which might be a valid beef. But after that the guy lost me.

Just out of curiosity how many posts do you need for the Banned moniker?
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Old Aug 04, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42   #158
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On the leveling, uh...no. My third time though I'm skipping missions and whole cities left and right, and I'm still gaining plenty of levels. The grind is for items and runes.

As for the "I won't rez you if you keep bitching at me." Yeah, I do that. You would too. It's not like a monk can't find another group, they (we) don't have to take that from tards who expect us to make them invincible.
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Old Aug 20, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33   #159
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boy, this was a LONG conversation!
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I've found many nice and mature people... you just have to look past the couple morons wrecking it all.
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