Curse

MaglorD · Nov 15, 2005, 10:09 AM // 10:09

Right now, protective spirit is how solo farming is made possible.

Since Anet finds it disgusting for ppl to solo the hardest areas in the game, all they need to do to stop the farming is to fix protective spirit.

Protective spirit should ignore all health mods from items, including runes shields etc. Minus health from runes should penalise the player for using too many superior runes. But with protective spirit as it currently works, the penalty is nullified.

Following the same argument, protective spirit should also ignore the effects of dealth penalty. Otherwise ppl will just keep dying to reduce their life.

Protective Bond may have to be changed in line with the above.

Align · Nov 15, 2005, 10:29 AM // 10:29

So basically it will now be "damage cannot exceed 48" at level 20?
I wouldn't mind.

Sister Rosette · Nov 15, 2005, 10:45 AM // 10:45

And now (YET AGAIN) people who use Sups and Spirit for reasons BESIDES
farming will be punished all the same.

Yeah....../unsigned

schutz · Nov 15, 2005, 10:48 AM // 10:48

/unsigned

if you dont like it dont use it

Jczech · Nov 15, 2005, 11:17 AM // 11:17

No.

If they really wanted to stop solo farming (or at least cripple it quite a bit), then they should just remove hp pentalties for the same type of rune. After all, you don't get the bonus 5 times, why should you get the penalty 5 times? Monks would only be able to get as low as 130/180 hp, which would effectively stop quite a bit of solo farming everywhere.

Ray · Nov 15, 2005, 12:05 PM // 12:05

/unsigned

There are other than farmers using Protective Spirit.

MaglorD · Nov 15, 2005, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jczech

No.

If they really wanted to stop solo farming (or at least cripple it quite a bit), then they should just remove hp pentalties for the same type of rune. After all, you don't get the bonus 5 times, why should you get the penalty 5 times? Monks would only be able to get as low as 130/180 hp, which would effectively stop quite a bit of solo farming everywhere.

They will then die to incur 60% death penalty...

MaglorD · Nov 15, 2005, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

And now (YET AGAIN) people who use Sups and Spirit for reasons BESIDES
farming will be punished all the same.

Yeah....../unsigned

You use sups then you have to pay the price for the health decrease. Can't get away with it by using spirit.

MaglorD · Nov 15, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray

/unsigned

There are other than farmers using Protective Spirit.

What others? Protective spirit is designed to prevent too much damage, which it will still do for ppl with normal hit points.

It's patently ridiculous for a monk with 8 hp to use protective spirit to reduce his damage to 1 and yet healing breeze heals for 16 life per second...

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaglorD

It's patently ridiculous for a monk with 8 hp to use protective spirit to reduce his damage to 1 and yet healing breeze heals for 16 life per second...

Why is it ridiculous?

(EDIT, and why is it patently :P )

Align · Nov 15, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Because it makes you invulnerable? Not cool against several monsters higher level than you.

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Align

Because it makes you invulnerable? Not cool against several monsters higher level than you.

unless of course your enchants stripped

run out of energy

forget to re-cast it

There is a difference between clever and ridicuous

The Protective bond build was ridiculous, you could stand there not taking damage whilst not at the computer for hours if you chose.

thats ridiculous

(EDIT, dont forget health degen spells as well)

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Nov 15, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

fyi you should jump on arua of lich too, so we all hate your dumb agrument.

I bet he's some lame W/Mo that gets murdered in CA by 55monks or 8hp monks.

FYI theres more than 1 build that doesnt require monk; to solo areas such as UW, hell I bet Rangers can solo UW now becuz the monsters wont come close cuz traps set off the AoE detection.

Sister Rosette · Nov 15, 2005, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaglorD

What others? Protective spirit is designed to prevent too much damage, which it will still do for ppl with normal hit points.

It's patently ridiculous for a monk with 8 hp to use protective spirit to reduce his damage to 1 and yet healing breeze heals for 16 life per second...

Yeah, you're right. It's STUPID of me to use runes that make my Healing
and Protection of others more effective. You know, that's all anyone uses
runes for. Farming. They should just rename that spell 'Farmer's Spirit.'
You know, because it doesn't have any practical applications outside of
farming.

/yes that was sarcasam.

Syno Nym · Nov 15, 2005, 02:03 PM // 14:03

So to stop solo farming you have to destroy a good PvP skill ?

When someone in your team has 50% DP, Prot spirit is the only thing that can keep him alive. With your "solution", prot spirit would become almost useless...

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E · Nov 15, 2005, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Or bringing your lv 4 friend from camp rankor to copperhammer mines.... not doing missions... thats the only way he stay's alive... then we cap'd Mark of Protection when we got there.

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Yeah, you're right. It's STUPID of me to use runes that make my Healing
and Protection of others more effective. You know, that's all anyone uses
runes for. Farming. They should just rename that spell 'Farmer's Spirit.'
You know, because it doesn't have any practical applications outside of
farming.
/yes that was sarcasam.

made my day

qwe4rty · Nov 15, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Uh...if you really want to stop farming, just add a lot more mesmer enemies w/ enchant strips, and degen.
In fact, add more degen to a lot of places

Make the game more challenging

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

2 things.

1. why stop farming?

2. why stop farming?

and another thing

why stop farming?

qwe4rty · Nov 15, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Cuz Anet doesn't like farming