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Cresst · Nov 23, 2005, 12:59 PM // 12:59

I just had an idea i have noticed that in game there are two handed hammers and stuff but i havnet seen any two handed swords, i personally feel that a warriors first chioce in Damage dealing weapons would have to be the Two handed sword i would like to see what people whould think on this matter and if it is a good idea or not.

I think it is a good idea because i have noticed a lot of people who seem to use a sword without a sheild (like me) and they tend to go for the longer sword such as the fellblade or the Long sword to make themselfs look or feel like they are weilding a two handed sword.

Please please please answer to this it was just an idea but i hope that most of you will agree with me that people like two handed swords as well as single handed sword.

Badenstein · Nov 23, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07

2 Handed Swords and 2 Handed Axes.

Good Idea.

Cresst · Nov 23, 2005, 01:21 PM // 13:21

ah yes Two handed axes to i didnt think of that nice one

neoteo · Nov 23, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42

/signed

Mordakai · Nov 23, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

OK, would this be cosmetic only (Two handed swords combining the attributes of both weapon and shield), or would they give extra damage at the cost of less armor?

quickmonty · Nov 23, 2005, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Not that I am against the idea per se, but any such changes (and difference in damage that would be expected) would require new skills and a massive change in the balance of the game.

[Always thought it looked a little strange for my little warrior gal to be wielding a one handed axe that looks like it should take two hands just to hold]

Claymore · Nov 23, 2005, 02:45 PM // 14:45

For a 2 handed sword it would have to be extra damage at the cost of less armor, but, mods could be added for extra armor, and thens theres stances anyways so no real major loss.

The Damage would have to be same range as hammer, maybe with some minor knockdown ability cause lets face it a 6 foot long piece of steel being swung with 2 hands at somebody's chest would knock them down!

Cresst · Nov 23, 2005, 03:16 PM // 15:16

yea i can see what you mean claymore any one who has been hit by a two handed sword would feel the ground slightly after

DeanBB · Nov 23, 2005, 03:17 PM // 15:17

This would be better implemented in a new class, barbarian or something, rather than trying to add it to warriors. I'd love 2H Swords though!

Cresst · Nov 23, 2005, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I was thinking that also the game seems to revole around the magical dragons that never show up in the game and there fore there should be a class that worships the dragon so i was thinking like Dragon Knight or sothing along thoses lines that could use the 2hander

it might be Ott but i like dragons so lol

Claymore · Nov 23, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Ok, I have 2 thoughts here, 1) We really can't say the new classes that are coming for sure, so asking for a new class to achieve a new weapon seems kinda overkill. The Devs have a model for the chars hold a 2 handed weapon, aka hammer, it should be difficult designing skins for new 2 handed swords. As I am not a porgrammer I can't say for sure but I would think and new weapon is easier than a new class.

2) Kinda off topic but, I always though of once reaching the desert instead of changing profession for secondary, you actually had the choice of specializing in a subclass of your primary, or keep you secondary as is.
Eg. Warrior/beserker

Fred Kiwi · Nov 23, 2005, 05:10 PM // 17:10

prestige class then?

a bit complicated seing as you already have a secondary

DarkSider84 · Nov 23, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Great idea, in turn for being 2 handed & not being able to carry a shield or focus item, the item should have a higher damage expectancy along with some kind of higher mods or + armor or something to that effect to make it worthwhile to use.

Badenstein · Nov 23, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I disagree on needing skill balancing and new skills etc. 2H weapons generally are slower than 1H weapons. You do give up defence, but there is the added damage.

Claymore · Nov 23, 2005, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

prestige class then?

a bit complicated seing as you already have a secondary

Thats why when your reach the desert you chose to keep your secondary or switch to your specialized class instead of swtiching to a new secondary.
You still end up with 2 professions per say, with my idea the second is a specialized class based on your primary.

Hot Dead · Nov 23, 2005, 05:25 PM // 17:25

/signed

I do believe that sword/axe warriors should have a bit more dmg output, and the skills shouldnt change.
Maybe just the casting time (if not an adrenal skill)

Mordakai · Nov 23, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claymore

Thats why when your reach the desert you chose to keep your secondary or switch to your specialized class instead of swtiching to a new secondary.
You still end up with 2 professions per say, with my idea the second is a specialized class based on your primary.

Off topic, but I always thought that it would be cool if you decided to permently set your Primary/Secondary after you Ascend. you would get some unique skills for that particular combo (like a W/N Skill).

Might be unbalanced, though.

Claymore · Nov 23, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Hehe yeah sorry about that guys, Cresst got me thinking after his post about dragons.

Yeah Mordakai, I though of the unbalanced too, but like everything else electing to specialize in a class means losing the flexibility of a second class. Although specializing in a warrior subclass gains you access to a few unique skills, its not an uber class. As we all know having your entire skill bar devoted to skills of you one class is almost suicide, this is just a though I had, haven't reasoned out pros and cons yet.

NatalieD · Nov 24, 2005, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Much as it would be nice to see them, it's really not a good idea. Warriors in PVP only bother with shields because they have an empty hand anyway. If 2H swords/axes were added, nobody would want to give up damage for more armor. Shields and 1H swords/axes would become a mark of inexperienced players, almost as bad as Mending.

(One need only look at World of Warcraft for an example of a similar game where this has already happened, incidentally.)

darkdragon99 · Nov 24, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

stop bashing mending it keeps you alive long enough to get your job done. it wasn't made for anything more and if your a w/mo your made to stay alive not heal others.

i so want a 2 handed sword i always thought the axes should have been 2 handed in the first place