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Chev of Hardass · Dec 14, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Hmm, ok we can reset all the rank, BUT at the same time reset everything else.

That means, no skills are unlocked, all your PvE characters are reset, all you saved skill points are gone, no more fissure armor, no more green weapons in your inventory.

/not signed, I will not start calling anyone names, but seriously a reset of anything this large is a dumb idea.

darkdragon99 · Dec 14, 2005, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

Hmm, ok we can reset all the rank, BUT at the same time reset everything else.

That means, no skills are unlocked, all your PvE characters are reset, all you saved skill points are gone, no more fissure armor, no more green weapons in your inventory.

/not signed, I will not start calling anyone names, but seriously a reset of anything this large is a dumb idea.

i have no problem with that i only have 1k i have no green weapons i have no fame i don't care for fissure armor i've never used any skill points and unlocking skills isn't that hard

but to get fame and rank at the state things are now is harder than hell how can you get any fame or any rank if you can't even get a group in the first place i don't have the 5 hours to sit there to get a group and very few ppl really do

Chev of Hardass · Dec 14, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by darkdragon99

i have no problem with that i only have 1k i have no green weapons i have no fame i don't care for fissure armor i've never used any skill points and unlocking skills isn't that hard

Then what do you do? I guess you have no Elites unlocked.......

Hildi · Dec 14, 2005, 09:48 PM // 21:48

I agree with all of you that say rank is a horrible way to judge skill. But getting rid of or reseting everyone's rank isn't going to change anything. FoTM builds will always be around, so fame will always be easy to gain for those that have the great friends list, or are in the great guilds (which I'm a member of, but that is beside the point). I myself do not do Tombs much, unless it is with my guild, b/c everyone wants you to show your rank, like that means anything at all, anyone can IWAY to rank 3. Win/Lose ratio isn't any better, like was stated earlier, ppl would just leave to keep from losing. And then there are the ppl that just do CA, TA, and GvG, what about those guys, many of them are as good, if not better, than alot in Tombs, but they get left out of being able to show off their talent with a cool emote, yes they are cool and I worked hard to get it so don't take it away. Basically, there is no solution to this problem, no matter what they do, there will be someway to take advantage of it. I do like the different arenas in Tombs for the different ranked players, but FoTM builds will still rule, so skill still will not be rewarded.

So, basically, this is a pointless arguement now, but one Anet should have thought out better before the release. There does need to be a way to show someone's skill, but in reality that would almost be impossible to do, there are too many factors that makes a good player good.

Lord Iowerth · Dec 14, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13

I've been reading the banter here with interest, and I thought i'd throw in my two cents, so here they are:

I agree with the OP that only morons choose people purely based on rank in a PUG, and having a second account that is not ranked yet (shh! I know we're not supposed to have those!

) I understand how hard it is to get into some of these myopic groups that only want "rank xx or higher" players.

I would also agree with the OP that as you do more ToPK you tend to develop a friends list of people who know that you are skilled, thus removing the need for spamming "Rank XX looking for group" or spending countless minutes attempting to get into district 1 ...

So taking these two things into consideration: I don't see what purpose resetting the fame system would have, as the two points I mention above will still be the case if it happens or not!

I will conceed that it may make it easier for those unranked folks to find a group, but I would suggest extensive play in the 4X4 team arenas before even attempting tombs ... and guess what? by then you probably have some folks on your friends list to group with when you want to try tombs!

There will always be FOTM builds that you can farm fame with, just like anything else ... and if fame were reset these goofballs would be right back in there shouting "I will avenge you!" to their heart's content ... however, I think the real point here is: BRING THEM ON! Any skilled ToPK group has counters for these types of teams which will mean MORE easy wins for those of us smart enough to bring counters for the FOTM builds!

</2 cents>

Clusmas · Dec 15, 2005, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by glenn_rolfe

My god, have you actually thought this through?

So if losing in tombs reduces your fame, the formation of PUG's would become infinitely more elitist than it is now. Who would want to team with someone that could potentially cause them to lose fame. Haha.

Just close this thread it's making me mad.

Yes I have thought this through.

Not necessarily, if the system offered a smaller loss of fame for bringing less qualified players it could encourage finding new players to fill a spot. Everyone's happy. I know some Anet devs are mathematicians so I don't think there'd be a problem finding some sort of complicated method of doing this that works. Joy!

Let's face it, having a cumulative fame as it is now is dull and boring, not at all the sort of thing you'd expect from entering a place that spams "TOURNAMENT" in the middle of your screen.

Use your imagination, think outside of the movies :P

Clusmas · Dec 15, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52

I have a great guild, and as soon as I log on get friends whispering me. I don't care about the people who don't that's not my problem.

I don't know what you mean by bringing everyone else down..
If the current system was lost to make room for a new one then I would loose my 7 rank aswell.
But if the new system was put in place to operate in conjunction with the old, then people can continue farming fame - it's just that I doubt anyone would pay attention to it.

If you're going to post here I ask please make it constructive. You are not proving to everyone how smart you are by replying with argument lacking arrogant posts. This forum is for the discussion of ideas and suggestions. Not You must put this in the game or else! or If you put that in the game I will burn a small child!

-EDIT- if this doesn't make sense it's because the pointless posts before it were deleted