Curse

Halmyr · Feb 19, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

OK 2 thing

1) make the smoke phantome lvl 20 and semi resistance to the mursatt touch attaque, just so they can send out 1 last spell.

2) you invading a fort, where your army, Dwarve soldiers and mage should apear,and not just 1 or 2, I mean like a dozen, and should be more then just standing and using frenzy to kill them self, make them so they can atleats bring the enmie a bit down.

thats my 2 cent on how to make THK easier.

Mandy Memory · Feb 19, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Its not hard to begin with...Ive seen a picture of someone who did it with no skills and henchmen.

I dont think it needs to be easier, if it was hard, I would like the challenge.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Feb 19, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57

THK is easy enough now there are no more noob filters for ring of fire

Fred Kiwi · Feb 19, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I did it with hench, and I got ovverrun.

Zakarr · Feb 19, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Make THK harder! All missions are too easy anyway. Add more challenge!

actionjack · Feb 19, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08

I don't think it need to be any easier.. but make it shorter. I like the challenge, but having to go through the same thing over and over again, each time wasting a hour of so, just gets old fast.

If I have any say in remaking the THK, would skip pass the Reclaiming the city part, make more hench/friendly Drawven army, as well as armies of enimes (to get the Helm's deep type of epic feeling), more explosions, and more excitment. Make it feel more like a War, a Deadly Battle, and not just few groups of mob trying to gank you.

Mandy Memory · Feb 19, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Make THK harder! All missions are too easy anyway. Add more challenge!

/signed

TheLordOfBlah · Feb 20, 2006, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Dont make it any harder or any easier just LEAVE THK ALONE.

ramma77 · Feb 20, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

THK is easy. what's the big deal. Trappers have a field day and so do minion masters.

With my ele i used henchies. failed 3 times as i wasnt infused. first 2 times couldnnt be bothered to get infused 3rd time i was but i had different gloves on. I swear to Dog that the enemies do less if you have henchies.

Poison Ivy · Feb 20, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by actionjack

I don't think it need to be any easier.. but make it shorter. I like the challenge, but having to go through the same thing over and over again, each time wasting a hour of so, just gets old fast.

If I have any say in remaking the THK, would skip pass the Reclaiming the city part, make more hench/friendly Drawven army, as well as armies of enimes (to get the Helm's deep type of epic feeling), more explosions, and more excitment. Make it feel more like a War, a Deadly Battle, and not just few groups of mob trying to gank you.

Skateboarding down stairs and shooting arrows...mmm...

Would be nice of they blew up a piece of the wall, and came rushing in with a full army, and a army of undead + summit warriors at your back ready to die. And the one thing that GW needs - A warcry for every race/profession! And and and...

Lady Lozza · Feb 20, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24

LOL THK does not need to be re-made. The mission is fine, easy but fine. I'm looking forward to the new "elite" missions in factions

Ranger Rog · Feb 20, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

THK itself isnt that hard, the problem is that it requires teamwork and a steady, methodical aproach. I would like to see more of the earlier missions needing a similar aproach to complete them, that way players might be better equiped to deal with THK by the time they get there. I had a nightmare taking my first character through because of bad pugs, back before they improved the AI of the henchies (they didn't used to heal the king) but now its a lot easier, I got my latest character through on the first attempt using henchies after 5 frustrating tries with pugs.

Urias Skult · Feb 21, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

And the one thing that GW needs - A warcry for every race/profession! And and and...

*Applaud*

Even if just for the cinematic value.

jciardha · Feb 21, 2006, 07:21 AM // 07:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Make THK harder! All missions are too easy anyway. Add more challenge!

/agree

I want an army of ticked off Mursaat, White Mantle and dwarves descending en mass on the keep. Not these piddly little waves of 2-4 enemies.

Siliconwafer · Feb 21, 2006, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Make THK harder! All missions are too easy anyway. Add more challenge!

Yes! I'd actually say make everything up to THK harder, so that it's not too much of a shock to go from using half a brain and almost no communication to actually using tactics!

Snograt · Feb 21, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

THK was a nightmare for me, mainly due to unreliable PUG syndrome. Yes, it's hard, but it needs to be. The only thing I feel needs tweaking is the LENGTH of the mission. Fail it once (ALWAYS right at the end) and you don't want to go through all that again for quite a while. I got so fed up with THK that I ran myself to Grenth's Footprint and enjoyed myself for AGES, returning to Thunderhead only once or twice a week until I finally passed it.

Some tweaking necessary, perhaps?

ForeverGoNe · Feb 21, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

THK isn't hard at all. You just need an good leader who can lead the team. Most PUGs are uncoordinated and thus blame it on the mission. I had a good warrior in our team as a leader who always managed to stick us together and not only that, he was ingenious as to use the torch to attract all the monsters to him so they could hit him, meanwhile we barrage them with our own attacks. It worked and we finished the mission just like that.

Snograt · Feb 22, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverGoNe

THK isn't hard at all. You just need an good leader who can lead the team

You also need a team who listen to what the good leader is saying and follow the instructions!

THK is hard; deliberately so. As mentioned several times in this thread and several others, THK is a noob filter. Awful description, but THK serves as a deterrant to people who have been run to Droknar's, stopping them from waltzing into RoF the easy way.

OFFTOPIC - I struggle to use the word 'run' in the GW context. How is it conjugated? I will run you, I have been run etc. Doesn't seem like proper English somehow...
/OFFTOPIC

Mavrik · Feb 22, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

/unsigned

Leave it just how it is. It discourages the noobs from proceeding further. It educates those willing to learn, just how teamwork is suppose to be.

Age · Feb 22, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

I don't know maybe when chpter 1 is a little more older then maybe cut back on it somewhat just half of the stonesummit in it.I am not sure what will be involed if you want to redo a char. from pre.