Curse

David Lionmaster · Mar 03, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by sh4ft3d

Dude.... nerfing 55s..... You do realize that about half the weapons and equip you bought (if you have bought any) were probably from 55s? It stimulates the economy to have na constant flow of good items...

yeah, it may cause economic growth, but in a period of expansion there is inflation. we dont want the price of money rising too much, people wont be able to buy anything. countries dont want their economy to grow too much.

Fred Kiwi · Mar 03, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by Makkert

no.
If you want to kill 55 monks, add a necro with Vampiric Touch in the farmarea.
GG.

wha? since when did damage get higher than 5 on a 55?

AeroLion · Mar 03, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Life stealing isn't considered damage.

Undivine · Mar 04, 2006, 12:58 AM // 00:58

Geez you're a pompus ass, aren't you Minus Sign?

I am aware that the Ritualist is coming and is made as an alternative to the monk for healing. They are fixing a concern; the one that I've outlined. After Chapter 2 people can chose not to play a monk without having as much trouble finding a group. They've yet another concern to try and fix: over-farming. And the monk is the biggest culpret.

As an aside, though not really relevant, henchmen healers are not good in some cases (Tombs, UW, FoW) and even in regular end-game missions sometimes a pull goes awry and bad things happen. In those cases a human monk runs away to return later, while the henchies stay and die.

Also, as to soloing missions w/ henchies, they will attack a target if you press Shift+Ctrl+Space. You don't need to attack first.

I agree if we're going to nerf 1 type of farming, we should nerf them all. I wasn't aware you could solo farm with the other classes, so you've got me there. Would've been nicer if you had just argued that way rather than scream it in my ear while calling me a troll. 55 monk farming is exploitive farming, of the kind the developers are talking about in Eternal's post. If any other class (i.e. warriors) also have the ability to over-farm something, that too is an issue.

In my earlier post I offered two options: They can make easily farmable areas to balance the classes or make no areas easily farmable. I don't know if you got my hint, but I was implying that the first option is not viable because of the problems that it encourages (bots, corporate farming, etc.) leaving only the second one. If you can successfully solo farm with most or all characters and make wealth too quickly, that's still not a good thing.

I wish you would stay /rant off.

Minus Sign · Mar 04, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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SpaceGh057 · Mar 04, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by Kai Nui

Runes are already unbalanced. You can put on minors for no penalty, but majors have -50. For an extra -25 you get one more level. They should make it: Minors-none, Majors-25, Superiors-50. that'd be fair and would abolish 55 monks nad minion factory... KIND OF. You could probably still acquire DP to a desireable amount of health for farming solo, but it'd be tough to do in UW.

Just curious, but how does this stop minion factory?
They use BiP, which drops 33% of max.
Not of the 420 or something.

awelcomecomatose · Mar 04, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

I really don't get the 55hp hate. How does the 55hp build effect those who dont have one. I went months and months with out one and could still farm and compete effectively. Then I wanted Ecto. Tried farming in 8 man groups and well and at that rate I would have pulled my hair out. When It was over and done with I deleted my 55. The 55 doesn't hurt or do anything to damage or hurt those who don't have one. In comparison to another build that was imfamous for its over use we Iway on the pvp side. It made it difficult for me as an unranked person to find a group that wasnt I way and if it wasnt for my guild I would have given up. Then I did give up but im considering going back now that they ahve fixed it. Secondly I hear peopel bitching about 55 monks taking up all the good monks so there are none to heal and prot. That is bullshit. 55 monks are made by those who want to farm. Farmers have money. They probably and if they are a good farmer have multiple sets of armor. They can do any build They want. If I want to solo its none of your business to tell me I can't. If you want to full man its none of mine. Just because it sounds boring to you doesnt justify nerfing it. Especially now that any primary class can 55 these days. No one is left out. 55 is here to stay get over it.