Curse

Nymph of Meliai · Mar 06, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

I know that we have just been blessed with possibly the most easy farmed green monk staff in GW - BUT it is another nail in the coffin of the 55 monk. I really don't understand why GW does not want the 55 monk to exist. It costs a fortune to build one and another fortune to get the right equipment - if you don't want 55 monks then change the spells and get rid of the -50hp item but why would you want to get rid of the 55 monk? The only people capable of fielding a 55 monk are the people who have completed the game and are spending their time farming until the new game comes out.

I can solo farm perfectly happily with my ranger and warrior and probably make more cash doing small runs (not even the drok run) than I can with my monk. I made my 55 monk because it is more challenging than slashing the hell out of something or trapping. It is also a kind of status symbol - much more so than a spider or 15k armor.

So lets please keep what little areas we have left to work with the 55 monk and move the Queen and her spawn to another part of the desert - somewhere a bit more challenging and bring back the griffon and mino farming.

I hope there are other players who can lend support to the existence of the 55 monk.

Thank you

0siris · Mar 06, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

lol thats funny...

I dont think a-net would even consider bringing back the griffons.

Hockster · Mar 06, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

No. Learn to farm somewhere else then.

Cost a fortune? You should have been around when monk runes were 75K each. The focus item sold for 20K and up.

And how exactly is killing griffons and minotaurs challenging? Not even the rockshots were all that challenging. Unless you really suck at 55ing.

And yes, I have a 55, but this is still a weakassed complaint. Learn to use your monk for more than just cookie cutter griffon farm.

Tsunami Rain · Mar 06, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

lol. there are other areas in the desert for farming griffons you know

Nymph of Meliai · Mar 06, 2006, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

No. Learn to farm somewhere else then.

Cost a fortune? You should have been around when monk runes were 75K each. The focus item sold for 20K and up.

And how exactly is killing griffons and minotaurs challenging? Not even the rockshots were all that challenging. Unless you really suck at 55ing.

And yes, I have a 55, but this is still a weakassed complaint. Learn to use your monk for more than just cookie cutter griffon farm.

**sigh

you don't see the full picture

chip chip chipping away until nothing is left

bye bye 55 (RIP 2006)

darkchakra · Mar 06, 2006, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Dude. They didn't nerf the 55 I-monk, they just nerfed one of the easiest farming spots. (Which was botted, so I can understand why). Don't go whining because you don't have the skill to farm UW. Just find another spot to play the game.

PS: Almost everyone has an i-monk. (15k armor would cost more than what an i-monk would.)

lyroth.grimstone · Mar 06, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Well my opinion with 55 monks and other 55 stuff. I LOVE it, couse it gives me something new with minimal effort to get a good partner to play with you. I hate going somewhere with 7 good ppl that listen and 1 moron that screwes things up for us.

Im getting tired of LFG sometimes so i just change armor and woila i go solo playing for fun.

IF they nerf 55 stuff some more ill be forced to : 1. stop playing the game couse there is not anything more challanging for me exept typing the same sh** to ppl every time we go somewhere just to get as* raped in the next 5min or so but some moron in my group. I like things that go smooth.

2. Play PVP only and i dont like the idea couse i love to play PVE too.

3. Wait for addon which i am still not sure i will buy couse of the 2 limit slots and i still want to try other proffessions i didnt have a chance in first game. Deleting character i played 500h with is a tought decision and i dont want to go trough that again...ever.

Hockster · Mar 06, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nymph of Meliai

**sigh

you don't see the full picture

chip chip chipping away until nothing is left

bye bye 55 (RIP 2006)

Good grief, You're another one that wants everything handed to you or something. I see the picture quite clearly. This was done to stop, or at least slow down, the botters (for lack of a better term). There are still numerous areas to 55 farm. Many that pay much better, but requie at least a bit of effort. Chances those areas will remain as cookie cutter builds and users won't be able to handle them. And that is perfectly fine with me.

Skuld · Mar 06, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16

wah wah i can't kill the easiest stuff inthe game, im just going to have to get other ppl to tell me what to farm, not look my self or find something else..

im glad the griffons are gone :|

dronex · Mar 06, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

lol. 55 monk is not dead, i dont get why ppl complain all the time. so they removed some griffons and nerfed some skills ... so ?

Cherno · Mar 06, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nymph of Meliai

I know that we have just been blessed with possibly the most easy farmed green monk staff in GW - BUT it is another nail in the coffin of the 55 monk. I really don't understand why GW does not want the 55 monk to exist. It costs a fortune to build one and another fortune to get the right equipment - if you don't want 55 monks then change the spells and get rid of the -50hp item but why would you want to get rid of the 55 monk? The only people capable of fielding a 55 monk are the people who have completed the game and are spending their time farming until the new game comes out.

I can solo farm perfectly happily with my ranger and warrior and probably make more cash doing small runs (not even the drok run) than I can with my monk. I made my 55 monk because it is more challenging than slashing the hell out of something or trapping. It is also a kind of status symbol - much more so than a spider or 15k armor.

So lets please keep what little areas we have left to work with the 55 monk and move the Queen and her spawn to another part of the desert - somewhere a bit more challenging and bring back the griffon and mino farming.

I hope there are other players who can lend support to the existence of the 55 monk.

Thank you

I abosolutely agree that 55 monking shouldn't be nerfed, but I disagree with just about all your supporting evidence.

The only people who can 55 are ones who have completed the game? That's pretty laughable. All you need to do to be able to do a 55 monk is about 10 for runs (if that), a small about for armor and weapons, and the ability to look up a build on the forums.

The griffon farming isn't the end-all be-all of 55 monking. It may have been one of the easiest, and that's why it was the target of so much botting, and thus the reason why the area was nerfed.

As said above, there are plenty of other places you can take your build to farm still, including the underworld.

a 55 monk is not a status symbol. In fact, most people will roll their eyes at you and not give a damn, because they assume you have copied everything off the net anyway. How original and worthy of high status is that?

What it is is an efficient way for the monk class or any class with a monk secondary to be able to go through some farming grind to get some money.

mattjones527 · Mar 06, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01

My first character was a monk, I have played him for roughly ~900 hrs. I have a set of 55 armor for him, but if Anet decides to completely nerf the 55monk I wouldnt mind.

I made a monk becuase I enjoy playing support classes. What I dont enjoy are the all to often times when I'm in a group and the other monk(s) is/are either playing monk to build a 55, or the only monk experience they have is soloing.

All to often it seems I get in groups and the other healing monk's skill bar is filled almost completely with enchants and no solid healing spells other than orison. Not to mention they have no clue how to manage energy. I blame poor builds on to much using the 55 build where energy isnt a concern and enchants are godly.

Personally I would be very happy if they nerfed the 55 build or nerfed more easy 55 farming spots. Then maybe it wouldnt be such a rarity to be in groups with another competent monk.

Nymph of Meliai, Enjoy the game how you want I guess. To me this game is meant to be played with people. PUG's usually are plagued with idiots but if you are playing a monk just look at it as a challenge.

If you want a challenge play monk with PUG's, if you want a harder challenge play monk in PvP, However if you dont like a good challenge then by all means farm till your the richest man in all GW.

Rebel Dragon · Mar 06, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

well i think 55 OWNZ!!! ye it owns

and its not like noob like its not like i buy game play 3 days till i have a lvl 20 n stuff.. its more... it cost you alot of money (money you earned BEFORE you had a 55) and ye i agree its somekinda status symbol and a part of a game...

and it cost alot of money....
first: 5 monk sup runes all around 12k
tattoos armor.. rather have 15k armor means 300 vellum= a shit load of money

black dye it (not done yet but proberly tommorow)

<--- my ava my 55 hp

i still have around 450k left ( wich i earned with playing the game and farming and trading) and i dont get why they wanna ramove it.. stop the fun?

a net wants a game like : you do all quest+all mission+ bonus well you do it 1 time and then it gets booring especialy the quest...

another side of gw (beside the quest and missions)
-explorin, finding other places..
-farming (55hp monk or just going outside with hench or other people)
-running (some people love it, others hate it. but its just a part of the game some kinda daily job.. runers

-pvp (imo not strongest part of game but sometimes its awsome

-gvg (killing enemy guilds with friends awsome

and how they wanna nerf 55hp ??? remove the sup runes? remove the focus items??? remove THE UNDERWORLD????????

and btw way up from thirsty there are enough griffons and giants to farm...

SirJackassIII · Mar 06, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

You do realise ANet can easily nerf you to hell by simply not allowing the -75HP from the same Runes to stack? Then you get 130 HP monk, which will make a lot of people cry...

Seriously, they nerfed 1 area of tha game, you can still dual farm the UW, Trolls, Minotaurs at Elona's Reach and numerous other mobs.

If anything, the update ensured that most smart people are going to keep their mouth shut when they find a new farming area.

Also, at least the 55 Monks get a new green they can use. What about the eles, warriors and necros that farm(ed) that area?

EternalTempest · Mar 06, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Since it was the easiest region to farm, and Anet is trying to stop bots / human bots for company that sell gold for real $, nerfing this region makes sense that and 2/3 farm teams can still milk this region nicely to be honest (look at the new green staff farming).

Also there are other places that 55hp can work just fine.

If anet did nerf 55hp monk, then I too would switch to being a normal monk but I do like unlocking stuff for pvp easier and making money to unlock my skills and dump them in to gold sinks like 15 k armor.

Cherno · Mar 06, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Of course once again just my opinion, but they don't want to nerf the 55 monks. If they did that they would nerf any professions build that could be sucessful at soloing anything reasonably well. They want to nerf the botters. And only want to nerf any farming system that severly outbalances the distribution of wealth in the game. As has been established, it isn't hard at all to make a 55 monk of any profession. This doesn't change the balance of wealth, so no problem there.

By definition, the 55 monk cannot use the new green. You know why? You wouldn't be 55 anymore. You would be 105. Can it still be done? Sure, but less effectively.

Blame the botters, not the build. And I honestly can't tell if Rebel Dragon was being facetious or not.

Linsys · Mar 06, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torric Icefist

lol thats funny...

I dont think a-net would even consider bringing back the griffons.

Man soo many people who play this game are clueless...

They didn't REMOVE griffons, they just added some new enemys so you can't farm ONE spot but the giriffons are still there.. because they wanted to stop the bot farmers..

I posted a map already where more griffons can be farmed, I'm not sure why people even farm the girffons, they where such a crappy fram spot IMO..

If A-net wanted to nerf the 55 monk they would have a long time ago... just because u have to use a little more intelligence then before (ie prot bond, nightmares etc..) doesn't mean they are nerfing anything, they just don't want every tom dick and harry running a 55 monk... so they make it so skilled players can continue to do so... so you actually have to learn something, try something, adds a bit of a challenge IMO.

Saider maul · Mar 06, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

I agree they should allow some kinda solo build (55 monk) to fund a persons gaming experience But, do ya really expect them to change or care about how it effects the game patrons?
I wish they would. if nothing else to make it fair for you what i enjoyed before aoe nerf.

I guess they just want us to play PVP.

Saider maul · Mar 06, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

I agree augery was a lame farming spot. and farming isn't farming til ya 55 titans.

the desert was just easy. put a 55 against a mesmer and a necro along with the pack at the same time, then ya have earned the money from the run.

I think this was the only well implimented nerf/patch they have ever done.

Zerg · Mar 06, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

If you run a 55monk why the hell would you spend all that money on 15k armor just to put runes in it?! Armor doesnt matter you'll only be losing 10% hp no matter what! I made the mistake of buying droks armor