Curse

farmerfez · Mar 05, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Theres only like 1 sword elite when hammers has like 5???? What is up with that?? I hope in factions there'll be more sword elites so i can go cap em

Im getting tired of usin hundred blades and eviscerate.

Poison Ivy · Mar 05, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

Em....ok

Sagius Truthbarron · Mar 05, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Yah, great. I like sword elites! Me want more too!

I wanted to make a giant "^_^", but the forum settup forbids giant, numeric emotes, I guess.

Murder In China · Mar 05, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55

/Agree with Poison Ivy

Kakumei · Mar 05, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Hammers have three. Axes have two. Swords have one.

Yeah, I see a discrepancy.

Soul Shaker · Mar 05, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Shows the nature of each. And stops everyone from instantly using sword...maybe...hammer is more desirable because of the elites, axes are usually not the first choice, so there are more elites there (though, cleave could be better) and sword has 1. Actually, no, sword has 2 (flourish), but then hammers would have 4, (dwarven battle stance)

Yanman.be · Mar 05, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

flourish works for hammers too

and that sword don't use elites to be effective is actually a bonus...clears up a spot!

Kakumei · Mar 05, 2006, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

flourish works for hammers too

and that sword don't use elites to be effective is actually a bonus...clears up a spot!

Flourish works for all of them. What's your point?

Yanman.be · Mar 05, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

read the post above me

he said hammers had 4 ( including dwarven battle stance ), after that, he said swords have 2 ( including flourish )..but flourish is for all attacks, also bow attacks, and smite...
so it's a common skill not just for swords alone

Kakumei · Mar 05, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

read the post above me

he said hammers had 4 ( including dwarven battle stance ), after that, he said swords have 2 ( including flourish )..but flourish is for all attacks, also bow attacks, and smite...
so it's a common skill not just for swords alone

Ah, my mistake.

maraxusofk · Mar 05, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Both axes and hammer have an elite that causes dmg and a condition (devastating hammer, evicerate). I wish they would do soemthing like that wit sword like a move taht either gives no damage bonus but gives bleed and deepwound or soemting that gives dmg and cripple.

S!carius · Mar 05, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

That would be a good idea. Imagine how nasty a cripple+bleeding attack would be.

Nevin · Mar 05, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

How about making Hundred Blades actually make you swing twice? Or thrust multiple times in a blurr effect.

Heres an idea for a few elites:

Taffle: 8 Adreline
Elite Sword Attack. Stab downward on knocked down target causing 4...40 Damage, Bleeding for 5..15 seconds, and Deep Wound 7...17 seconds, Damage is doubled if target is bellow 33% health.

Disarm: 5 Energy 45 Second Recharge
Elite Skill. If target foe is attacking, you interrupt and remove target foe's melee weapon for 3...12 seconds.

Endless Thrusts: 10 Energy 30 Second Recharge
Elite Sword Attack. Contiously thrust at target for 5...25 damage (Ignores Armor) 33% faster for 8 seconds, Endless Thrusts ends if attacked.

This one may be a bit over powered.

Fury: 10 Energy 25 Second Recharge
Elite Stance. For 10 Seconds you attack 33% faster.

Inureface · Mar 06, 2006, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Uh, most of those skills you listed were based on assasin concepts, and fury?!? Are you kidding me??! Thats just a shitty version of tigers fury made elite

Ristaron · Mar 06, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Fury would only be elite if it lasted 20 seconds and had 25 second recharge. In which case it would still be a crappy elite.

Nevin · Mar 06, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Fury would require Swordsmanship (No need for /ranger secondary)... So how would Tiger's Fury be better? It requires Beast Mastery. Fury also has no negative effect...

On a side note, I see no relivance to an Assassin in the skills.

Soul Shaker · Mar 06, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

flourish works for hammers too

and that sword don't use elites to be effective is actually a bonus...clears up a spot!

they changed it eh? it used to only be sword, never saw that change. (i call it a sword skill cos of the fact that you were (or still are?) required to wield a sword, making it in my eyes a sword skill)

SaintGreg · Mar 06, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Flourish is really only useful for bow and sword attacks, the other lines don't rely on energy based attacks with high enough recharge like sword, and bow of course doesn't use adrenaline.

The negative effect of fury is that it has very high downtime, doesn't last very long, and is a waste of an elite. If you were going to make an elite stance like that it would probably combine 33% attack buff with 25% run buff and be only 5 energy, 20 recharge (and link to strength not sword)

Inureface · Mar 06, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

Taffle: 8 Adreline
Elite Sword Attack. Stab downward on knocked down target causing 4...40 Damage, Bleeding for 5..15 seconds, and Deep Wound 7...17 seconds, Damage is doubled if target is bellow 33% health. - similar to twisting fangs/falling spider

Disarm: 5 Energy 45 Second Recharge
Elite Skill. If target foe is attacking, you interrupt and remove target foe's melee weapon for 3...12 seconds. - something similar posted by actionjack in an old thread, people speculated it would be an assasin skill

Endless Thrusts: 10 Energy 30 Second Recharge
Elite Sword Attack. Contiously thrust at target for 5...25 damage (Ignores Armor) 33% faster for 8 seconds, Endless Thrusts ends if attacked. - similar to repeating strike

This one may be a bit over powered.

Fury: 10 Energy 25 Second Recharge
Elite Stance. For 10 Seconds you attack 33% faster.
Its still costly like TF, and what advantage do you get having 1 or 16 swordsmanship for this skill?? Plus its elite, which already makes a bad skill worse

Those are what's similar

Mandy Memory · Mar 06, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by farmerfez

Theres only like 1 sword elite when hammers has like 5???? What is up with that?? I hope in factions there'll be more sword elites so i can go cap em

Im getting tired of usin hundred blades and eviscerate.

Yeah I always get tired of using eviscerate with my sword too.