Curse

Naqser · Apr 10, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

Got scammed by a 55 monk who wanted me with him in UW, he said 50/50 on fee and asked for 500, I gave him that and BAM, he left, I checked if he still was online and he was.

For all others who form teams with more players and they share the fee it's a pain in the ass for the one who has to collect the money, and when there is someone who hasn't paid but claims he has paid just to get in free. All this takes time, I know, it doesn't take much time to collect the gold even if everyone does pay.

But I want an alternative to the "offer 1 platina", there should be a "share 1 platina equaly among those who dare to enter" option, of course, 7, 6 and 3 doesn't make it equal, but the richest player get to pay that little extra.

If a player doesn't got the gold on him/her then it just takes from the storage. So everyones happy, those who want to pay the entire 1000 gold themselves get to do so and with a fee splitting option there are no scammers and no waiting for the one who pays to collect money and those who claim they've paid but hasn't.

.killjoy · Apr 10, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

When I dual UW and ask for 500g for fee I just look at the advantages I can get a ecto, rubies, golds, goldp and other stuff and make more than 3k just from selling cheap items and gold collected.

So why scam when you can make more?

Naqser · Apr 10, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

why are you asking me?

I bet there are those who claim to be 55 monks, apearing to be one, tattos and Mo/W, says what skills they got and so on, but they don't have those skills at all, the runes were to expensive for them and simply can't enter UW cause they are not fit for it, it's easy money for them too, they just scam one at each district, wait a couple of minutes then start again.

Ishmaeel · Apr 10, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Although I don't see the UW and FoW fees to be one of the bigger problems with the game, auto-splitting option sounds like a good idea. So,

/Signed.

Mr D J · Apr 10, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

ugh, was this monk asian? I dont trust these guys...

Phoenix Arrows · Apr 10, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Hey! I'm Asian! But I don't have a 55-Monk. But yes, fee-splitting would be appreciated. I hate people (the leader) who takes all the money and leaves. While I don't care about the money itself, I'm just pissed that I got scammed.

Phoenix Avenger · Apr 10, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36

I dont like this idea. Report the scammer to ANet/NCsoft (whichever). And its not that hard to find out who payed you the 125 gold or not. It tells you in green text when you complete the trade. And if someone is refusing to pay, either buck up and pay the extra 125 gold (you will earn it back in 3 drops) or kick him out of the group and get a new person. The only thing this idea would do is allow people to be more lazy. (It's not really that hard to ask for contributions, unless your fingers are broken, in which case i suggest taking a break from gaming).

deathdela · Apr 10, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

i bet this is the same 55 monk that took my 500g then left and was still online. I couldnt be bothered to report him all i did was pm him saying is that how you make your money by scamming 500g from people

Viruzzz · Apr 10, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

i'd rather see the UW/FoW cost X ammount of gold PER party member

bulletsmile · Apr 10, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

i got scammed some times and really hate it, not becouse i have lost a little money, but becouse of people that goes so low that they scam...man i would like to take a hammer and smash it through a scammers head.

maybe have an option where everyone MUST pay 125gold each before they are allowed to enter, so when you enter you have automatically lost 125gold and then travells to uw/fow.....or one guy could pay it all..

Mr D J · Apr 10, 2006, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Don't misunderstand the word Asian in my post... It's not in a racist way its in a way... like some Xan Sin Lin (example IGN) guy who works for 1 dollar an hour in Korea or somewhere and scams people and then sells money on ebay...

awesome sauce · Apr 10, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

I dont understand why teams decide to pay the leader BEFORE they enter. It's just as easy and more secure to pay afterwards. And, If a leader claims that they cant afford the 1k to get in, then they're probably not experienced enough to be leading the group in the first place.

Naqser · Apr 11, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Now, allowing people to be more lazy, then you might as well skip the dye mixing and coloring armor NPC disscusion, the skill trainer NPC and throw out all skills in quests and the wild, and either skip the Balthazar priest so you have to use a PvE character to unlock skills or make the priests only available to PvP characters to not make them lazy and have to work to get something.

Paying before is better because there is a chance that some players are morons and don't pay when they get in.

The money itself a few times isn't a problem, but get in for free a dozens of times add up pretty good, just by getting in free 10 times it's 1250 gold, 100 times makes it 12500 and add the drops too, does he deserve a shard, ecto, key or gold items?. When you pay taxes in real life, there are allways people who deciev the government. They don't pay taxes and also get benefits, tax payers actually pay those for doing nothing. Okay, they don't get alot of money but still, would you like to pay a complete stranger without work monthly when he lives in your house, eat your food, sleep in your bed. All for the money you worked so hard for. And no, I'm not talking about your kids.

Also there has been an increase of new players doing FoW and UW and i don't think they want to get scammed the first times they pay for FoW and UW, and they might be eager to see an area they haven't been in before. I see it only as time saving and helping players get a better time, and get rid of a part of scamming.

Mister Muhkuh · Apr 11, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

dont go with PUGs if u dont want to risk 500g...

skull · Apr 11, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishmaeel

Although I don't see the UW and FoW fees to be one of the bigger problems with the game, auto-splitting option sounds like a good idea. So,

/Signed.

Hi,

I am also in favor of an auto-splitting option implemented in the game.

Upon entering FoW or UW, entrance fees are automatically deducted equally from all players' Character Inventory who are in the PUG.

/signed.

Avarre · Apr 11, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Auto splitting would be helpful I suppose, but maybe better as a selectable option... whever I go to FoW or UW either I or group leader pays the full price (it's not like you won't get it back during the run).

Implement as a second option perhaps (To the glory of Balthazar for my party : 1 platinum divided) to go undernearth the pay 1... I generally prefer to pay all just to speed things up.

/semi-signed

koneko · Apr 11, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker The Owner

Don't misunderstand the word Asian in my post... It's not in a racist way its in a way... like some Xan Sin Lin (example IGN) guy who works for 1 dollar an hour in Korea or somewhere and scams people and then sells money on ebay...

Nah, it was understood that you meant the sweatshop farmers. I'm Asian, and I don't even trust myself. :S

I like Avarre's idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by awesome sauce

I dont understand why teams decide to pay the leader BEFORE they enter. It's just as easy and more secure to pay afterwards. And, If a leader claims that they cant afford the 1k to get in, then they're probably not experienced enough to be leading the group in the first place.

I've had groups where 3/8 refuse to pay 125g after I fronted 1k to either of the ghosts. 375g is nothing to me, it's more the principal of the matter.

Naqser · Apr 11, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Avarre, if you look real close I say that if you want you can pay everything yourself

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So everyones happy, those who want to pay the entire 1000 gold themselves get to do so

Twiggy · Apr 11, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

/signed.

Dougal Kronik · Apr 11, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

What if each person paid 1 platinum to enter the UW and Fow solo. Then when you were there you had a kind of outpost where you could create your party before entering the actual zone.

It would definitely get rid of scammers. And maybe even have the ability to Travel To the area after a screen pops up requiring your 1 Platinum.