Curse

SisterMercy · Apr 15, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Alright, I admit it, Sister Mercy's been unfaithful. The wait for Factions was getting to be too long, we never had favor when she wanted to grind for skill points, and her 3 non-PvP characters have completed everything down to The Titan Source and then some. So she wandered. *gasp* To City of Villains, to be precise.

And OMG, does it ever remind me of all the things I appreciate in GW: map travel (!), stable servers (there's lag on GW, but nothing like CoV), sensible up-down mouse motion, beautiful graphics and better-detailed figures, varied mission types, less grind, more skills, map travel (!), less obtrusive UI....

But, you know, there's this one thing... and I'm going to miss it terribly when I get back to GW: a pet / henchmen control menu.

I've been wishing for minions to be able to join the party menu for the sake of casting versatility for awhile. Trying to target them with the mouse for Death Nova, heals and the like gets frustrating, and with the Flesh Golem coming, I want to try this feller in PvP. So just for selection options, it'd be worthwhile.

But then, there's the controls: Attack, Follow, Heel.

Methinks that an implementation of such a thing for minions, pets and the henchies could be a wonderful Xmas present....

Fred Kiwi · Apr 15, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54

moo?

I AM A WHALE

Murder In China · Apr 15, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Pretty sure there has been a petition about controlling henchies/pets with commands.

Gmr Leon · Apr 15, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I agree as long as there is a command that makes them dance.

Aeon221 · Apr 16, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

That would be hawt

/signed the command petition, wherever it went

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 16, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Just think how much easier tough situations would be if you could put the henchmen into "pull mode." You know how it works right now when you hit an enemy with a ranged attack. Good ol' Thom and Stefan rush in in aggro'ing everything in sight.

So I think there should be an offensive mode, in which the henchmen walk in front of you, sure to take the aggro. Then there should be a defensive mode, or "pull mode," which would tell them to stay put allowing you to pull with no issues attached. And then line formation, box formation, staggered formation, er... I'm getting ahead of myself.

But seriously, "offensive mode" and "defensive mode" would make partying with henchmen 110% less painful.

/signed without a moment's hesitation.

Undivine · Apr 16, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre

So I think there should be an offensive mode, in which the henchmen walk in front of you, sure to take the aggro.

Try pressing Shift + Ctrl + Space. Sometimes it takes a few tries. This makes henchies attack your target without you having to attack.

Quite a lot of people don't seem to know about that, and ANet really should let it be known.

Mandy Memory · Apr 17, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Yes I want the controls...but I regretfully inform you that A.net has no other games released at this time...Thus those mushrooms on your pizza were the hallucinogenic kind.

(NCSOFT is the parent company, not the same company)

calamitykell · Apr 17, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Henchmen controls are probable in Chapter3. Or sometimes as an update between Chapter2 and 3. I'm 90% sure I've heard Gaile confirm they were going to be implemented.

Gaile has recently confirmed pet improvements are coming as well. To what extent they are, we don't know.

bilateralrope · Apr 17, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Henchmen controls - yes
Pet controls - yes, if limited to less than henchs
Minion control - No, the minions are mean't to be dumb

Dougal Kronik · Apr 17, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

/signed

For any kind of control that will allow me to pull when I'm with henchies or my pet.

Silent Kitty · Apr 17, 2006, 03:30 PM // 15:30

/signed

If only the archer hench would lure for me. Monks are terrible pullers and lurers.

BloodBrooder · Apr 17, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

/signed great idea

Hella Good · Apr 17, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Don't mean to spoil it for you guys but it sure doesn't look like this is happening. I mean think about the FPE- you saw any hench/pet improvement? No. They seem to have gotten worse for all I know... (cept for the interrupt ranger which everyone seems to be in love with). Controlling minions/pets/henchies would just be too good to be true.

eudas · Apr 17, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Hell, even NWN had henchmen/NPC controls on a radial menu.

eudas

R A C · Apr 17, 2006, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Hella Good, the preview event was just that, a PREVIEW. Nothing's final untill final release and then again, still not really final with all the constant updates.
Did things change between beta weekends and release? yes. That's essentially what the fpe was, a beta weekend. I have no doubt that many things will change for the better and possibly the worse as release comes nearer and passes.

Hunter Sharparrow · Apr 17, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

/signed
A nice start to improving the henchie/pet ai.

Xpl0iter · Apr 23, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Henchmen controls - yes
Pet controls - yes, if limited to less than henchs
Minion control - No, the minions are mean't to be dumb

Totally agree.

-LiamB · Apr 23, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24

I'm suprised ANet hav'nt introduced this system, games like UT had 'hench' control, thaugh they were'nt exactly henchmen. And UT was released in 1999 (I believe) ! Also, more recent games like CS:S have VERY good AI for bots, so again, I am suprised ANet hav'nt introduced this feature.

-LiamB

Malakai1977 · Apr 25, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

/signed