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Loviatar · Apr 05, 2005, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! ERROR CODE 09973#. CALLING FOR ASSITANCE, THIS IS ECHO INDIA CHARLIE FOXTROT!

Another subject *sigh*. Get me clear son I'm gonna say this once, not twice, but once.

Have a nice day.

KIWI

this is what i meant when i said earlier that you WILL have 50 different people asking the SAME question in less than 2 days

REMEMBER THIS

it will be the first time THEY asked the question

for the good of the forum remember that and answer with the same patience that somebody explained it to you

smart remarks from the *old master* will be taken as insulting by a number of first time visitors here and a potentially good forum member leavs and says what a bunch of.....are here

remarks can lead to heated remarks and then to flames

be helpful be calm

Xiores · Apr 05, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18

If you are not nice to the noobs, you can get flamed....

Dreamsmith · Apr 05, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by balbanebeoulve

Invalid comparison, how do you compare an MMO to an RTS? okay, there..

If you think I was comparing an MMO and an RTS, you've missed the point entirely.

You suggested there was nothing to do in a game after you max your levels/stats/whatever. The StarCraft example proves this is false. I wasn't making a comparison, I was pointing out that the statement you had made was nonsensical.

Now, if you're saying there's nothing to do in an MMO after you max your level, rather than in a game, you may very well be right -- personally, I wouldn't know, I don't play any MMO's. If Guild Wars was an MMO (or if you insist on calling it one, make that, "If it was that kind of an MMO"), I wouldn't be here. If the only point of the game is to level, the game really has no point at all as far as I'm concerned. I could grab a calculator and hit "+1" all day if incrementing numbers turned me on.

I like StarCraft precisely because although there was a bit of "leveling", in reality people quickly equalized, and the game was much more interesting because of it. There was a lot to do after that, and you did against equally matched foes. The exact same thing is true of Guild Wars. Yes, it's in a different genre of game, but that's irrelevant to the point I just made.

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Originally Posted by HotSnack

Guys, Dreamsmith is being sarcastic. If you couldn't tell by his post, then at least notice that one; he's in a guild, and two; he took the trouble of making himself a fancy little animated banner of his GW chars.

Don't be silly, I'm never sarcastic!

Actually, if you think the animated banners are bad, click on the sig and visit my website. If I was any bigger a fan, I'd have "Guild Wars" tatooed on my ass...

The fact that I like this game so much, and I have hated every MMORPG I've ever tried, should say something about the game as well. If you think comparing Guild Wars to an RTS is not a valid comparison, fine, but comparing to an MMORPG is equally invalid. It's got about as much in common, and as much different, with games in either genre. Now, you could compare it to the Diablo series games, at least then you're comparing games in the same genre (action RPG). Again, there'll be significant differences, but there'll be a lot more overlap in that case.

What does leveling have to do with being done with the game or not in any case? There was no point in playing a Diablo II character after you killed the Cow King, it didn't matter what level you were when you did it. In StarCraft, there was a point in playing even after you finished all the missions, because of the PvP component. In this respect, Guild Wars is more like StarCraft than Diablo. Although there are people who really didn't play StarCraft much after playing through all the missions -- that's fine too. Play whatever parts of the game you like, and stop when you've run out of things to do.

But what the heck does what level you are have to do with it? That just makes no sense to me. You've either run out of things to do, or you haven't. What level you are is irrelevant in either case...

Saving the princess is a worthy goal for an adventurer. Killing the evil mastermind is a worthy goal for an adventurer. Crushing your friends in PvP is a goal for a competitor. Reaching the top of the ladder is a goal for a competitor. Reaching level X is a worthy goal for... who exactly? A mathematician? What kind of silly goal is that? I just don't get it...

HotSnack · Apr 05, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by chalt2

Lady's and Gentlemen, today the role of Captain Obvious will be played by;

HotSnack

Thank you

Give chalt2 a round of applause for trying everyone. While he aspires to be a smartass, he somehow overlooked the fact that he earlier quoted balbanebeoulve, a quote in which balbanebeoulve misinterpret Dreamsmith's posts, not realising it contained sarcasm.

Dreamsmith · Apr 05, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by HotSnack

Give chalt2 a round of applause for trying everyone. While he aspires to be a smartass, he somehow overlooked the fact that he earlier quoted balbanebeoulve, a quote in which balbanebeoulve misinterpret Dreamsmith's posts, not realising it contained sarcasm.

Actually, I think he got that I was being sarcastic. He still missed my point, but he recognized the sarcasm at least...

Weezer_Blue · Apr 05, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by balbanebeoulve

Okay, I hear the caps at lvl 20 and it's reach-able in days, or even weeks. So I play a week, am I done with this game? Or is it another blizzard game - endless raids for the best lewt and then spending hours and then losing due to lack of luck in rolls. I'm getting of WoW due to the endless raiding, and then the /random 100 factor.

So, what do you do after lvl 20? Or do I have the wrong angle.

Thanks in advance.

By your logic, the missions and everything but the item-grind stops at level 20. What are you thinking?

Pyxis · Apr 05, 2005, 10:16 PM // 22:16

The FAQ on this page needs to go into more detail on this subject, otherwise people will continue to ask questions like this. Of course, they will continue to ask questions like this anyways, but at least then we can point them to the FAQ.

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What is the level cap of the game?

The level cap is at level 20 and there are no current plans to raise it. The level cap is intended to be reached quickly so that all characters may be competitive based on their skill in the game and not time played.

That explains the cap, but still will leave most gamers full of questions. the fact that levels are not "Levels" in this game needs to be made clear.

Sennarc · Apr 05, 2005, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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2) Besides leveling you can do missions, quests, guild fights, play in the tombs, fight in the arena, explore areas, make friends, and many many more things. THE GAME DOES NOT END AFTER LEVEL 20. IT BEGINS AFTER LEVEL 20.

My favs are Magic Cake Teaparty, Help the old lady cross the road then leave her, and carry out the garbage and dump it in some poor schmos car! GW is gonna be great!

Taranis · Apr 05, 2005, 11:40 PM // 23:40

You can compare it to a First-Person-Shooter: Trainings-Level = Reaching LvL20; the game itself = after LvL 20

KainMagus · Apr 09, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28

I am curious, and i am sure this has been mentioned before but when you reach Level 20 are there still going to be PvE missions that need doing, and or level 20 co op PvE missions? I imagine there are some co op ones would be great.

thanks again

K

fawgre · Apr 09, 2005, 03:32 AM // 03:32

You might want to perform a search on the forums... there are thousands of threads about this. There's a search button on the top bar, just try "level cap" or something similar.

Manderlock · Apr 09, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

i agree with the above, and the awnser is yes you will have many missions to do.

many people say this (and i agree) the game truly begins at 20

KainMagus · Apr 09, 2005, 03:50 AM // 03:50

I have read that 78 thousand million times, "the game begins at level 20" but they usually referring to PvP. I want to do a mess of PvP I just havent been able to find much other than that catchy slogan regarding PvE missions and co op stuff.

Manderlock · Apr 09, 2005, 03:54 AM // 03:54

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Originally Posted by KainMagus

I have read that 78 thousand million times, "the game begins at level 20" but they usually referring to PvP. I want to do a mess of PvP I just havent been able to find much other than that catchy slogan regarding PvE missions and co op stuff.

i cant remeber where but i saw that there actually many more missions than we are given in beta. i wont pvp much ether, but i know that there will be plenty for me to do in pve.

hope this helps

KainMagus · Apr 09, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

The beta, from what i hear is only like 30% of the total game. I hope thats the case. I have only done 2 of the missions after the searing. I wasnt expecting co op missions, i like those alot I am just hopeing there will be a mess of them because if thats true, everyone will be level 20 for more than half of the game.

Manderlock · Apr 09, 2005, 04:13 AM // 04:13

but this game isnt about lvl grinding

i think that pve will surpass all your expectaions.

EDIT: i misread your post lol sorry

KainMagus · Apr 09, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

thats what i love, little to no grinding at all I got to lev 8 in two sittings and i swear i didnt do even 1/3 of the beta. this leads to my next question. From what i saw, You can go back to any PvE missions that you have completed when ever you want. My question is are they scaled to whatever level you happen to be on? they must i am not even sure why im asking i just like it here.

Manderlock · Apr 09, 2005, 04:27 AM // 04:27

im not shure about going back to a prev mission. matter of fact i though you coulnt do that. as far as monsters go ive read that they do "grow" as you do. by that i mean that as you grow more powerful so do they.

KainMagus · Apr 09, 2005, 04:40 AM // 04:40

if im not mistaken not only can you redo missions, but they show up as thier own dots on the map so you can redo them near instantly which i hope is the case and im not imagining the whole thing

Manderlock · Apr 09, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

you shure its missions, or just side quests?