Curse

Genosha · Mar 24, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Mss Drizzt

I would like to see it so that I could add more att pts. into my secondary skill. It would make my char work better so that I could go out into the world alone. It would make My PvE better. I do not care if it still said lvl 20 just more att pts.

Okay maybe I missed something, but you can go do missions and explore without anything but a little hired help. I did it this last BWE as my goal. I was really supprised when I scored 2 bottle of ink, a full inventory, 1000g. & 3 new locations on my map that were in the middle of nowhere.

... Oh and before you say i'm a level 20, i'm not, i'm only a meger 15 and started from level 1 and worked up. In fact I believe that my character has 30 + hours on it at least with the BWE. I may not be the best PvP but there is nothing like exploring on your own without the clutter of people.

dakyd · Mar 24, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

I am torn i want to level, but i understand why they have the cap. I just don't really care anymore. I just love to play andd find new stuff and new areas

dakyd · Mar 24, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16

how do you do the picturs under your name? i know dumb question

Genosha · Mar 24, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

User CP>Edit Avitar>Has to be this size or smaller>
100 by 100 pixels or 19.5 KB

And yes that is my Character in the game.(Needs updating my armor is blue now

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That's the idea but think of it this way every charcter is different. Some are fast, some slow, some can take a beating and keep on ticking (Which I have seen 1st hand and we called him GOD until we went our seprate ways). So what is your goal and how would you like to play before you get to level 20? I myself am horrible at PvP but get me on a mission and it's all good!

Scaper-X · Mar 24, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Asked all too many times.

No.
-- Scaper-X

dakyd · Mar 24, 2005, 11:57 PM // 23:57

i am great at pve not so good at pvp.

Loviatar · Mar 25, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04

no raise

William of Orange · Mar 25, 2005, 12:37 AM // 00:37

With the way that I think the expansions will be set up, you shouldn't be getting bored with any of the game content, since you will be getting new quests and missions each time that an expansion is released. Also, there's nothing wrong with going through the same missions multiple times; last Beta Event, I did some of the same missions two or three times to either gain more experience or to just help some of my friends/guild mates get through those levels if they were having a hard time finding a party to do them with. Although I'm not yet at level 20, and only reached The Wilds before the event ended, I'm sure that there would be many different missions which you could do a multiple times just because they're 1) fairly difficult, even at level 20, and 2) because the challenge makes the game all that more fun.

There are hundreds of quests that you'll be able to do in conjunction with doing missions to get further in the game. Even after you have "finished" the game, you can always go through and try to find yourself some nice rare weapons, which will lengthen your gaming experience indefinitely, since you never really know exactly when those coveted rare items will be dropped, and even more scarce because if you're in a party of 6 or 8 people, you're not guaranteed to be dropped a rare item that is reserved for you.

So basically, you won't get bored, no matter what you guys may think. Peace out.

Lunarhound · Mar 25, 2005, 02:24 AM // 02:24

I am primarily a PvE player, and I simply don't see the need to raise the level cap. I am absolutely baffled by the idea so many people seem to have that without levels to gain, there's nothing to do in PvE. Levels mean nothing in Guild Wars, in the end. Yes, you grow stronger, but the monsters you fight grow proportionally stronger so there's no change in gameplay. The effect on gameplay comes through gaining new skills, which has nothing to do with levels to begin with. The illusion of improvement you'd get through gaining levels after 20 would be just that: an illusion. You'd be doing the same things you'd be doing if the cap had never been raised (completing missions and gaining skills) but with the additional grind of having to gain levels just to keep up with everyone else and remain competitive should you wish to PvP.

There is absolutely 0 reason to ever raise the level cap. It will add absolutely nothing to the game and frustrate people who want any friends they convert to the game to be able to quickly get to the point where they can aventure together. Players would be forced to grind away just to keep up with the higher attribute and hp caps, and the strength of monsters would increase exponentially, so the gain would mean absolutely nothing except that the number of monsters who are below your level and don't give you experience would grow enormously.

I wish some of the people who keep asking for a raise to the level cap, eventual or not, would stop and actually think about what that would mean. I'll say it one more time: Levels are there as a way to ease people into their characters and let them choose specializations gradually. Nothing more. Any sense of real improvement through levels is 100% illusion.

I've never reached level 20, so someone fill me in... After 20, do you still have an experience bar that fills up, and get a skill point every time it does? Because if not, maybe they need to implement that, since so many people seem to think there's nothing to do if they don't have a bar to watch.

Weezer_Blue · Mar 25, 2005, 03:08 AM // 03:08

I hope they never make the level cap go any higher than 20. And they aren't planning to. It restricts nothing except for the amount of grind and imbalances possible.

Lansing Kai Don · Mar 25, 2005, 03:13 AM // 03:13

It has been my suggestion in the past and I still think it's a good one... to give some kind of notice to players that have played guild wars and are devoted die-hard fans..but not very good at games lol

ok maybe that last part was added, but for those gamers that don't got game

Anyways make levels after 20 dummy levels... nothing gained by them. And give the person a different colored baldric or sash or something that signifies the level but has no armor attributes.

Or Forget the levels, and do it off of map percentage discovered/missions completed/ time spent playing/ you know some form of stat... just to help those that have been there. Or give a different colored one every month, and only those of us from the very beginning get the bright pink one

jk

Lansing Kai Don

Genosha · Mar 25, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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and only those of us from the very beginning get the bright pink one

jk

Lansing Kai Don

I don't do pink!

j/k

Mss Drizzt · Mar 25, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

What about Lavender.

Weezer_Blue · Mar 25, 2005, 05:58 AM // 05:58

Or violet?

BlackArrow · Mar 25, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

I don't ever want the level cap to go up. Lvl 20 is perfect for GW. What I would like to see is a simple counter in your stats (attribute panel is fine) that tells you how many skill points you've earned past lvl 20. Theorectically I could just never buy a skill again after lvl 20 and count that way, or keep track in my head, but I want more skills and I don't want to have to keep track in my head.

Weezer_Blue · Mar 25, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

There was once a Skill Points and "Skill Points earned" counter.

Genosha · Mar 25, 2005, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by Mss Drizzt

What about Lavender.

MAD I TELL YOU MAD....
Why don't you just be honest you want to say fuchsia.

As for level Caps I played this game Dark Eden 1 day there were no lvl 100's a week later 80% of the population. So I think of 20 as being a challenge.

Mss Drizzt · Mar 25, 2005, 06:27 AM // 06:27

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Originally Posted by Genosha

MAD I TELL YOU MAD....
Why don't you just be honest you want to say fuchsia.

No what I would love to really see is Metalic Purple.

Genosha · Mar 29, 2005, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by Mss Drizzt

No what I would love to really see is Metalic Purple.

Sorry to reply late, But OUI! (and no i'm not jewish)

static deathbringer · Mar 29, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

i think everyone here is missing the point on what GW's is all about, its not about the constant grind for levels, its not about being a god type character who can one hit everthing that comes into its path, its about skill. skills that you will have to refine in one way or another either for pve or pvp, to become the best player not because your level 65 anjd the person you are fighting is only 35(ive seen many lev 50's get their collective arses handed to them by a player who is 20 levels lower than them because they know how to play their character well enough that they could take down a higher level person with little to no trouble) what im trying to say is, and what kiwi is trying to say is, higher levels dont make you a better player, skills do, and knowing how your character works, and knowing your opponents flaws. if you can do all that then that makes you the better player, not your level. JMHO