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Twilight Doll · Apr 08, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

I haven't been around the forums in a very long time and this forum seems to be flooded with people nowadays so I wanted to make a suggestion. I don't know if some form of this has been brought up before but...

I know random arena isn't taken as seriously as the others but how many of are annoyed by the numerous quitters? I feel that quitters should be penalized. I think when they try to enter a new match, their wait timer should be like 1 minute minimum before they can join a new match.

The only problem that of course could not be fixed is a person who wants to quit to begin with probably wouldn't give it their all once it begins.

But I'm sure this could help.

Sofonisba · Apr 08, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

This suggestion has come around a few times.

I agree, a wait timer would be extremely helpful. Would discourage impulsive leaving, yet not penalize those who got "kicked" by their ISP. Relogging into the game would always take longer than the penalty time.

Living Legend · Apr 08, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

lol what for honestly no one even takes it serious, you no one should be penelized for having the right to leave there match, when you enter the random arena matches you know the possibilities of someone quitting in the match.

Kool Pajamas · Apr 08, 2006, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Yeah I like this. The other day I had someone leave as soon as we entered. The others after seeing then left which left me to die alone quickly. I then entered the next match and the same guy that left the first one was in my new group and he left AGAIN as soon we entered the arena.

NatalieD · Apr 09, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

I play a fair amount of RA, and I only rarely see quitters. Either you and I have very different definitions of "numerous", or perhaps you see so many quitters because you're the one provoking them to quit. Try not to use Mending when your teammates are watching you.

Seriously, though, I don't understand why people consider this such a huge problem.

AaronSwitchblade · Apr 09, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

NatalieD, are you a monk? Because if you are, then that's the reason right there.

Winterclaw · Apr 09, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

For me it's only a problem with me in RA if the match is still winnable or you are going on a streak and someone quits after the new match begins. Still I will think a little less of someone who quits in the middle of a battle.

In HoH, if someone quits when they die in the first battle, it also irks me then too. It takes time to set up a group and modify it. Sometimes the first match or two you meet a team that has an advantage over your type. Sometimes your group needs a little tweaking or practice together.

NatalieD · Apr 09, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronSwitchblade

NatalieD, are you a monk? Because if you are, then that's the reason right there.

Well, I do monk a lot, but it's far from the only class I play, especially in RA.

Ristaron · Apr 09, 2006, 03:06 AM // 03:06

My situation is the same as that of NatalieD. However, for the longest time I could never get into a group that would succeed in Thunderhead Keep either, so I know what it's like to have your issues with the community/game dismissed so readily by others.
You and many other people have complained about Random Arena quitters, so enough people know it's an issue.
However, I will speak no more here in this thread because there are so many other ones on this topic.
Please, next time, use the search button.

Zui · Apr 09, 2006, 04:32 AM // 04:32

MM, I say just make it so when someone leaves the other team gets faction for it.

Most RAers just leave to try and grief the other team(too bad it doesn't work when you already have all unlocks :O).

Edit: that needs a clarification... They leave right before they die to grief the other team.

Wretchman Drake · Apr 09, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35

I don't think this would work. Sometimes when others leave on my team or if it's the lava place and we're getting whooped, OR if some dumbass on our team decides to sacrifice himself because he thinks its funny, I leave. It's not worth it to waste my time, or if the battle goes on for over 6 minutes. It's Random Arenas, cmon. Not all groups get quitters. To me, the point of RA is practice and faction. Penalizing quitters is dumb because not all quitters are guilty of leaving just 'cuz...

Kai Nui · Apr 09, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Who cares, it's not like it's a common occurance, and if someone leaves, it's just a random person out of like 1 million that you'll be playing with. :/

Wretchman Drake · Apr 09, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Nui

Who cares, it's not like it's a common occurance, and if someone leaves, it's just a random person out of like 1 million that you'll be playing with. :/

Exactly. This thread just shows how much people care about teh RA. Too seriously.

mariano · Apr 09, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Well, in my view that someone quites in Random Arenas is the typical case of a problem of a random team;(Team Arena, HA and GvG have their own problems.)

Why do some players leave in Random Arenas? I have two probable explanations.

First case two guild mates wish to play together in Random Arenas, so each one quites if the other is not in the team. I may have seen this case one time, because, I was in a team and 1 player did quite, in the next team another player did quite, and in the third team both were there both were of the same guild and they did not quite. But, we got killed again... it seemed to me that they were more interested in playing their own game than playing with all as a team.

Another case, this time I was in a team and a player of the opponents' team did quite, the same player did quite from the following opponents' team, and again the same player did quite from a third opponents' team. I did whisper him what he was playing... and he did not understand at all! So I do not know the reason.

Still, I think that some players may quite when they do not like the random build, may be they want to have a monk in the team, or something like that.

Nevertheless, this is not so often as to annoy me.

In my view, Random Arenas are undervalued, may be even more than Team Arenas, ... I see that in GvG guilds get rank, in HA players earn fame and get rank, but, in TA and RA players get experience only. I have everything unlocked so I do not earn Factions anymore.

Suggestion: offer some relevant reward for playing in RA. Think, if you like to think so

, that I do not need any other reward than the pleasure of playing; (so that this one is a free suggestion

).

And with respect Random Arenas, I see that there is not a forum for RA in GWGuru. Nevertheless, in GW:Factions there are coming some random, and half-random, team battle grounds, with this novelties, I hope that this game style may get a more prominent place.

corcesca · Apr 10, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

They should do something about the quitters in PvP. Way too many of them, I had some suggestions but who know how well that'll go.

Lose/Decrease amout of Faction recieved
Lose exp
Lose gold
Timed ban
Lose fame
Lose rank

But they'd have to implement something.. to determine if the person timed out.. or just warped out/quit game

Eet GnomeSmasher · Apr 10, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Some quitters are there to "farm" faction. If they turn up on a team that they don't like they leave. Or at the first sign that the team is losing, they leave. Plenty of people try to justify this but really, you're just screwing your three other teammates. It's griefing in my book, very minor griefing but still griefing.

And for those who say "Who cares?" ...well people who play RA regularly do. So shut the hell up.

Wretchman Drake · Apr 10, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

But it's RA. It's random. No matter what penalties there will always be dumbasses that'll ruin it. Who cares is right, first off it's just a game. Don't get uptight about it. If someone leaves, just leave yourself, don't waste time getting pounded on and whining about it. That's what I do and it works fine for me. Just deal with it no matter what they do this will never abolish quitters.

What Anet should be looking at is rebuffing/nerfing builds/spells and improve other aspects of gameplay, not RA foolishness.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Apr 10, 2006, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

Don't get uptight about it.

Look at your own post and take your own advice. You're the one getting your panties in a bunch.

If you don't care about RA then why feel the need to come in here to throw your tantrum then? If you don't like the suggestion, then don't post...especially since this suggestion couldnt have possible affected you in any way...unless of course you're one of the quitters mentioned in this thread.

Age · Apr 10, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

I have suggested this before on other boards if someone leaves quits they get a penalty for say 30min.If they do it agian 1 hour in another game I pay if we disengage we get penalized like this.

Murder In China · Apr 10, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17

What if some of those people who "leave" had suffered from a computer crash or error7? Time ban on them because of their bad luck? That's idiotic since not everyone's computer is top-notched. Also, what if you met a Griefing runner who continues to waste everyone's time because he/she enjoy seeing other suffer; I would be glad to leave at the point since wasting 45+ minutes to just kill the bastard for a measly 20 factions when I could of been in my 5th win in the row.

people, this is Random Arena for Christ's sake. You can see a Warrior/Elementalist try to use Meteor Storm or use Dolyak Signet + Armor of Earth thinking he's Pimp. Tell me you won't leave if that person was on your team.