Curse

Afterimage · May 28, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Concept Class: The Surge

Race: Dwarf will fit it best although the normal strange human race will fit it just not as well. The Surges are the servants of Mandelaru, like the rangers

Skill Color: Brown

Destination in Game: Strategically based, most defiantly a benefaction to the team strategically, and will probably be the core strategy for many builds to come. The Surge is able to make unique environments for your team to take advantage of while being able to dish a big blow on the opponent in a chunk once in a while.

Weapons: A big metal/iron/platinum etc. glove with a normal off hand focus.
Glove
Possible Styles: Iron Glove, Gold Glove, Dragon Fist, Platinum Glove, Spiked Bracer, Heavy Troll Charger
Damage: Melee, Blunt Damage, 15-28 in a light weighted glove and 1-40 in a heavy weight glove.
Attack Rate: 2.00 In a Light Weight, 3.5 In a Heavy Weight.
Inhered Effects: 15^50, 20v50, 15vs hexed,20when hexed, 10NRG^50

Focus: Pretty normal caster

Look and Armor:
Headgear: Hood
Chest: Tonga
Laggings: Skirts/light pants
Shoed: Sandals
Hand Gear: Collars

Armor Types: Worker Armor: 60AL +15NRG +2pips +10AL while building
Hard Silk Armor: 60AL +15NRG +2pips +10ALvs physical
Embalmed Armor: 60AL +15NRG +2pips +40ALvs Holy/Life Steeling
Adventurer Armor: 60AL +15NRG +2pips +50 health
Forger Armor: 60AL +15NRG +2pips Building Time Reduces -1 second (Non-Stacking)

Attributes and Skills:

Burst Power:
The Burst Power skill line is a the Surge's only offensive line. It abuses a new mechanics called "Burst Attack". Burst Attacks benefit from extra damage if wielding a glove and deal a damage bigger than an Elementalist but there is a catch, after performing a burst, all your bursts are disabled for a preset time. The Burst Attack is most advisedly preformed from a distance because you gain a 300% speed boost but on a straight path to the destination for a limited time, If you don't manage to get to your target in time, the Burst Attack is stopped. Also, the main reason to use Burst Attack from a distance is that all enemies that are on your radios of 5 ft. are effected by the Burst Attack's effect (without the glove bonus). To aid in performing a burst attack there is another new mechanic witch is Dodge Jump, while Dodge Jumping you double jump backwards about 40-100 ft. (no decided) backwards, good to get distance fast and dodging danger. Also used as a requirement for focus items.

Building Efficiency:
A new mechanic called…. Structure Building. Long casting time (about 25 seconds in default), BIG energy costs and Big recharge times although it is worth it. Only one structure is possible in a big range but it last as long as it can until it will be destroyed by enemies… Although the structures are unique and can get pretty crazy, they are not that new but still the most important strategic part even more than spirits. Also used as a requirement for focus items.

Fitness (Primary Attribute)
Another new mechanic called Specialties. When a Specialty Skill is placed on your skill bar, it is always on and works like an irremovable enhancement but all the Specialties are stricted to enhancing your performance. Fitness is also related to skills involving Dodge Jumping and such. Also used as a requirement for gloves. Fitness gives you 1 second reduce of Structre Building cast time and 1AL.

Psychic Affections
A Skill Line based on Player Based Area of Effect skills of hexes and enhancements.

Skills soon

Aera · May 28, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

I'm not sure what to think of it untill I see some skills.

Comments:
- How can you have armor vs lifestealing?
- 25 second cast...cry of frustration / shock anyone?
- Have any picture what it'd might look like?

lyra_song · May 28, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

I really dont like this. The mechanics offer no synergy with existing classes as a secondary, and it seems overpowered from just the descriptions. Some skills would really help. hope you update this post soon.

Afterimage · May 28, 2006, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Skills (kind of the skill types I had in mind)

Second Strike {E}
Dodge Jump. All of your Burst Attacks are recharged..
10/0/75 (Fitness)

Kamikaze Burst
Burst Attack. Lose half of your correct health. Run towards targeted enemy with 300% for 3 seconds with a burst attack that hits for the amount of health you lose to any enemy on your way to the target (including the target) and strike the target for 5-50 damage with armor penetration of 20% if you are wielding a glove. All of your other Burst Attacks are disabled for 20 seconds.
15/1/60 (Burst Power)

Energy Picking
Burst Attack. Run towards targeted enemy with 300% for 3 seconds with a burst attack that Steals 5-20% of any enemy's current energy on your way to the target (including the target) and strike the target for 5-50 damage with armor penetration of 20% if you are wielding a glove. All of your other Burst Attacks are disabled for 20 seconds.
5/1/60 (Burst Power)

Gladiator Arena (E)
Structure. On a radios of 40 ft. around you build a circular arena which unless is destroyed, all the players inside it can't get out and all the players outside of it cannot get in. The arena walls block hexes and enhancements. This Arena has 20-200 health.
25/25/60(Building Efficiency)

Arrow Tower
Structure. Build a watch tower who shoots an arrow at a random enemy once in 10-1 seconds. The watchtower has 20-200 health.
25/25/60(Building Efficiency)

The Dawn of Moral
Spell. All foes in the area can't benefit from shouts for 5-30 seconds.
10/2/20 (Psychic Affections)

Mandalaru's Warth
Burst Attack. Run towards targeted enemy with 300% for 3 seconds with a burst attack that hits for 10-63 damage for each primary ranger or surge in the area on your way to the target (including the target) and strike the target for 5-50 damage with armor penetration of 20% if you are wielding a glove. All of your other Burst Attacks are disabled for 20 seconds. (Burst Power)
5/1/40

Danger Sense
Specialty. Whenever your health goes below 10-70 you perform a Dodge Jump Every 6 seconds as long as you are in this state. (Fitness)

Full Metal (E)
Burst Attack. Run towards targeted enemy with 300% for 3 seconds with a burst attack any enemy on your way to the target (including the target) for 40-160 damage with armor penetration of 20% if you are wielding a glove. All of your other Burst Attacks are disabled for 20 seconds.
15/1/60 (Burst Power)

Mind Reading
Target foe can use skill only 0-4 seconds after he ordered to use them for 5-19 seconds
10/2/40 (Psychic Affections)

and there is some syenergy as 2ndary as for support type burests and soppourting Psychic Affections skills

floppinghog · May 28, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

first thing that came to mind was the critical attack for 1-40 is outragous +bonus dmg attacks.. thats as imbal as it can get. you know how hammer is, even though it's slow it fking can solo a monk no problem. mix with warrior class, get wild blow (critical hit), drunken blow condition +40 bonus with high tactics. welcome to godly warrior spike builds.

and maybe its me, but no offense building a structure in pvp or anywhere else out of nowhere has no place in GW imo. thats magic that doesnt have an explaination -if that made sense.

but im not flaming, it needs alot of work and i would keep it simple at this level. more for bare hands, things that mix well with our current classes, not something totally from outside. a warrior with armor on already is going to look how with this huge hand glove? hes gonna look like an deformed Ettin.

lyra_song · May 28, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36

If your first burst will get interrupted and since that disables your attacks, you're pretty much dead.

Its not the same with assassins, they can at least have multiple combos if one attack misses or is negated.

actionjack · May 28, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07

The whole thing just don't have one central flow to it.... its like a patch job of Mesmer, Engineer, and Assassine/Matrial Artist...

But one thing I am intersted to see is the Build mastery. Since my last Engineer with its Seige Machinary attribute got flame pretty badly (it wasn't that well developed as well) So see how you would handle it.

Aera · May 28, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16

After seeing the skills I have also come to the conclusion that it'd be a pretty bad idea...it just doesn't fit into GuildWars.

jonnybegood · May 28, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Quote:

first thing that came to mind was the critical attack for 1-40 is outragous +bonus dmg attacks.. thats as imbal as it can get. you know how hammer is, even though it's slow it fking can solo a monk no problem. mix with warrior class, get wild blow (critical hit), drunken blow condition +40 bonus with high tactics. welcome to godly warrior spike builds.

hhhhhhhmmm isnt there an assasin skill that does +40 or 50 dmg?

BahamutKaiser · May 28, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

The burst idea is interesting, I came up with an idea for Dashing in the past which is simular, but it near instantly makes a movement from your location to a location in front of you, often dealing damage on all enemies which you cross through.

However, this is a very odd combination of abilities also including some that are rather undesired. I will say that some of the elements are interesting, but the overall concept doesn't sound very good.

The bursts shouldn't disable all other bursts, they arn't nor shouldn't be overly powerful, and being in melee range naturally justifies more damage.

Also, with a class, it is important that it have a natural identity. Although it isn't neccessary, Anet has followed a path of natural titles for their classes, and very distinct and diffinitive ones at that. Surge sounds like a nick name or discription rather than a actual class title. I would search for something a little more natural, a better title.

I suppose they could use some elements simular to these in a class, but I highly doubt much of this would be chosen, if even balanced enough to be accepted. I like the idea of a AoE/Group damaging melee unit, but I hope for something much better.

Afterimage · May 29, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

Yeah I think you guys are right and I will rework the class but I will probably have the burst concept stay as I think I achived it's target prefectly of very high damage burst in every once in awhile

General Typhus · May 29, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnybegood

hhhhhhhmmm isnt there an assasin skill that does +40 or 50 dmg?

Hmmm, isn't dagger damage 7-17?

Prety ridiculous imo. It's like a clown teaching a class of harvard graduates how to kung fu fight.

Rikimaru · May 29, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

Ignoring my very bad oppinion of the class in general... I don't think the +300% run speed would work, that's why they made assassins teleport. I don't know if every game engine has the same problem, or more importantly this one, but if your character moves waaay too fast, they can "un-sync" with the server and get trapped in some wierd kind of lag.
Atleast that was/is a problem with WoW and Asheron's Call 2.

-Edit- Oh no, wait; WoW has that problem, AC2 had a problem where they couldn't add combat-teleportation because the crappy engine would require you to re-load the area every time you tried, or something like that.